WarEagleAU 0 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 2014 Players Leaving (Updated: 7/20/15) *** ATTENTION: Please do NOT copy/paste to other websites or message boards! This thread belongs to AUFamily forums ONLY! *** No bold denotes walk-on Scholarship Breakdown Depth Chart Underclassmen Leaving 18 Sammie Coates | WR | R-Junior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#11 WR, #66 Overall) Projected Round: 2 - 3 (Declaring for NFL Draft) Link | Persuasion chance to stay: Low NFL Draft: Round 3, Pick 87th by Pittsburgh Steelers 51 Patrick Miller | OT | Junior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#36 OT, #460 Overall) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent (Declaring for NFL Draft) Link | Persuasion chance to stay: Excellent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Signed by San Francisco 49ers as Undrafted Free Agent 1 D'haquille Williams | WR | R-Junior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#10 WR - 2016) Projected Round: 2 - 3 (Staying at Auburn for his senior season) Link | Persuasion chance to stay: Below average 8 Cassanova McKinzy | LB | Junior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#6 ILB - 2016) Projected Round: 5 (Staying at Auburn for his senior season) Link | Persuasion chance to stay: Average 17 Kris Frost | LB | R-Junior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#14 OLB - 2016) Projected Round: 5 (Staying at Auburn for his senior season) Link | Persuasion chance to stay: Average 56 Avery Young | OT | R-Sophomore Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#31 OT - 2017) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent (Staying at Auburn for his junior season) Link | Persuasion chance to stay: Very good 43 Anthony Swain | LB | R-Junior Reason: Transferred to Southern Miss Link 24 Derrick Moncrief | S | Junior Reason: Transferred to Oklahoma State Link 35 Joseph Turner | CB | Junior Reason: Transferred to ? Link 40 Gage Batten | HB | R-Sophomore Reason: Transferred to Miami (FL) Link 97 Elijah Daniel | DE | Sophomore Reason: Transferred to Murray State Link 37 Kamryn Melton | CB | Sophomore Reason: Transferred to Troy Link 21 Mackenro Alexander | S | Sophomore Reason: Transferred to Northeast Mississippi CC Link 22 Khari Harding | LB | Sophomore Reason: Transferred to Tulsa Link 83 Dominic Walker | WR | R-Freshman Reason: Transferred to Copiah-Lincoln CC - Miss. Link 32 Jimmy Hutchinson | P | R-Freshman Reason: Transferred to ? Link 41 Kalvarez Bessent | CB | Freshman Reason: Transferred to Hutchinson CC - Kan. Link 85 Matthew Shiel | P | Freshman Reason: Transferred to Mercer Link 31 Jakell Mitchell | HB | Freshman Reason: Obituary 89 Jaylon Denson | WR | R-Junior Reason: Graduation 17 Ben Durand | QB | Junior Reason: Graduation 99 Brian Walsh | DT | R-Junior Reason: Graduation 13 Mack VanGorder | S | Junior Reason: Graduation 39 Alex Kviklys | K | R-Junior Reason: Graduation Seniors Leaving 98 Angelo Blackson | DT | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#26 DT, #315 Overall) Projected Round: 7 - Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Round 4, Pick 100th by Tennessee Titans 90 Gabe Wright | DT | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#14 DT, #146 Overall) Projected Round: 4 - 5 NFL Draft: Round 4, Pick 113th by Detroit Lions 81 C.J. Uzomah | TE | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#12 TE, #211 Overall) Projected Round: 6 - 7 NFL Draft: Round 5, Pick 157th by Cincinnati Bengals 44 Cameron Artis-Payne | RB | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#13 RB, #141 Overall) Projected Round: 4 - 5 NFL Draft: Round 5, Pick 174th by Carolina Panthers 50 Reese Dismukes | C | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#4 C, #136 Overall) Projected Round: 4 - 5 NFL Draft: Undrafted, Signed by Pittsburgh Steelers as Undrafted Free Agent 20 Corey Grant | RB | R-Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#24 RB, #275 Overall) Projected Round: 7 - Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Signed by Jacksonville Jaguars as Undrafted Free Agent 27 Robenson Therezie | S | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#11 SS, #289 Overall) Projected Round: 7 - Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Signed by Atlanta Falcons as Undrafted Free Agent 9/35 Jermaine Whitehead | S | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#14 FS, #327 Overall) Projected Round: 7 - Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Signed by San Francisco 49ers as Undrafted Free Agent 14 Nick Marshall | QB/CB | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#38 CB, #339 Overall) Projected Round: 7 - Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Signed by Jacksonville Jaguars as Undrafted Free Agent 25 Trovon Reed | CB | R-Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#49 CB, #494 Overall) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Signed by Seattle Seahawks as Undrafted Free Agent 62 Chad Slade | OG | R-Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#35 OG, #581 Overall) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Signed by Houston Texans as Undrafted Free Agent 6 Jonathon Mincy | CB | R-Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#66 CB, #680 Overall) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Signed by Atlanta Falcons as Undrafted Free Agent 4 Quan Bray | WR | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#103 WR, #764 Overall) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Signed by Indianapolis Colts as Undrafted Free Agent 48/67 Forrest Hill | DS | R-Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#6 LS, #799 Overall) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Invited by Miami Dolphins to Rookie Minicamp 10 LaDarius Owens | DE | R-Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#66 DE, #875 Overall) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Invited by Atlanta Falcons to Rookie Minicamp 11 Brandon Fulse | HB/TE | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (NR) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Invited by Chicago Bears to Rookie Minicamp 29 Brandon King | DE/LB | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (NR) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted, Signed by New England Patriots as Undrafted Free Agent 54 Jeffrey Whitaker | DT | R-Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (#66 DT, #967 Overall) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted 50 Ben Bradley | DT | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (NR) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted 93 JaBrian Niles | DT | R-Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (NR) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted 49 Patrick Young | HB | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (NR) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted 85 Wirth Campbell | WR | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (NR) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted 49 Niko Anthony | S | Senior Prospect Ranking: NFL Draft Scout (NR) Projected Round: Undrafted Free Agent NFL Draft: Undrafted Links: NFL Draft Scout Breakdown of numbers on players leaving: 7 R-Seniors, 16 Seniors, 1 R-Junior, 3 Juniors, 4 R-Juniors, 2 Juniors, 1 R-Sophomore, 4 Sophomores, 2 R-Freshman, 3 Freshman, 10 walk-ons (22 NFL prospects) Breakdown of starters on players leaving: 4 R-Seniors, 10 Seniors, 1 Junior, 1 R-Junior (9 on offense, 5 on defense; 1 (walk-on) on special teams) Breakdown of positions on players leaving: 2 QB 3 RB 5 HB/TE 5 WR 1 OT 1 OG 1 C 6 DT 3 DE 2 LB 5 CB 6 S 1 K 2 P 1 LS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDE_OxPx_2010 5,290 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I had no idea Frost was considered that high in the NFL. Does Mikey know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURex 1,990 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Hoping some of the seniors have tremendous 2014 season and up their draft potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareagletd 0 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I had no idea Frost was considered that high in the NFL. Does Mikey know that? :)/> 2016 Draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle84 0 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Hoping all of the seniors have tremendous 2014 season and up their draft potential. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinPF 94 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 It has been a long time since I've seen as much talent in a Sr class as this. It is exciting to think about what these guys can do and the level the program has reached. It's scary to think about what will need to be replaced the next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFDTiger80 790 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Interesting stuff, I can't say I agree with all all of it. A lot will change based on how they play this season. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle84 0 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Interesting stuff, I can't say I agree with all all of it. A lot will change based on how they play this season. Thanks for posting. Agreed. But it would be even more dubious to try to predict who's going to improve and who's going to slip and base it off that, so last year is the only reasonable basis for prediction. Of course, you could argue that predicting next year's draft this early is not reasonable on any basis, but hey, it's the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wareaglebaby1345163024 0 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 since when is frost rated that high?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn4Winners 0 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 These projections have us with between 16 and 20+ players being drafted if none of them stay.. I'm a massive homer and fully believe that all of them should be drafted but there is just no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,818 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 These ratings are all over the map for these guys. Some are rated wayyyy too high for even the most delusional, biased fan IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagleAU 0 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 These ratings are all over the map for these guys. Some are rated wayyyy too high for even the most delusional, biased fan IMO I didn't rank these guys. You can send an email to someone from NFL Draft Blitz and NFL Draft Scout. They are the most delusional, biased guys, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,818 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 These ratings are all over the map for these guys. Some are rated wayyyy too high for even the most delusional, biased fan IMO I didn't rank these guys. You can send an email to someone from NFL Draft Blitz and NFL Draft Scout. They are the most delusional, biased guys, IMO. Yeah, I wasn't implying that you rated them. I was just caught off guard by some of the evaluations. Especially the disparity between how one organization rated a guy compared to the other in some cases. I appreciate you listing everything out though, with our senior class and possible juniors leaving early in one nice, neat place. Especially with the chances of the player staying/leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Nice work on the list. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagleAU 0 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Updated with some tidbits: -NFL Draft Scout prospect rankings updated. -Cameron Artis-Payne with huge jump from 98 to 22 (+76). -Big gain: Holsey (+60), Owens (+21), Mincy (+12), Wright (+10). -Big loss: Miller (-17), Slade (-9), Uzomah (-7). -Nick Marshall moved from QB to FS. -D'haquille Williams and Derrick Moncrief debuted on NFL Draft Scout. -Non-eligible underclassmen top 5 added. ***Tray Matthews haven't made his decision yet but his prospect ranking: #53 FS on NFL Draft Scout and #52 FS on NFL Draft Blitz.*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson SG 88 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Man, we are losing a lot of players this year. I know we have plenty waiting their turn, but your talking a lot of starters that are seniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigersauburn217 2 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Man, we are losing a lot of players this year. I know we have plenty waiting their turn, but your talking a lot of starters that are seniors. That's why I am not looking forward to the Louisville game in 2015. The team will be extremely inexperienced (relatively speaking) and that's a tough opener. This and next season has the potential to be much like 2010 and 2011 respectively. I know this sounds like a crazy statement given the great year Gus had, but he needs to have a great season this year because it gets difficult to have back-to-back mediocre seasons at a place like Auburn, especially after early success (see Chizik). Gus will need a great season and a win over Bama this year just when thinking long-term. Should he not, next year with a younger team things will be getting hot. Not "you're fired" type of hot, but, "Hey, you need to turn things around quickly or we're looking elsewhere." That may sound silly to some, but think about it... should he lose to Bama two years in a row, a third will not go over well. But if he has a great season and beats Bama this year, a mediocre season next year will be acceptable / normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagleAU 0 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Man, we are losing a lot of players this year. I know we have plenty waiting their turn, but your talking a lot of starters that are seniors. That's why I am not looking forward to the Louisville game in 2015. The team will be extremely inexperienced (relatively speaking) and that's a tough opener. This and next season has the potential to be much like 2010 and 2011 respectively. I know this sounds like a crazy statement given the great year Gus had, but he needs to have a great season this year because it gets difficult to have back-to-back mediocre seasons at a place like Auburn, especially after early success (see Chizik). Gus will need a great season and a win over Bama this year just when thinking long-term. Should he not, next year with a younger team things will be getting hot. Not "you're fired" type of hot, but, "Hey, you need to turn things around quickly or we're looking elsewhere." That may sound silly to some, but think about it... should he lose to Bama two years in a row, a third will not go over well. But if he has a great season and beats Bama this year, a mediocre season next year will be acceptable / normal. 2015 season won't be much like 2011 season. Jeremy Johnson is better than Barrett Trotter and Clint Moseley. You forgot about Jovon Robinson at RB, too. I think this and next season has the potential to be much like 2004 and 2005 than 2010 and 2011. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn4Winners 0 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Man, we are losing a lot of players this year. I know we have plenty waiting their turn, but your talking a lot of starters that are seniors. That's why I am not looking forward to the Louisville game in 2015. The team will be extremely inexperienced (relatively speaking) and that's a tough opener. This and next season has the potential to be much like 2010 and 2011 respectively. I know this sounds like a crazy statement given the great year Gus had, but he needs to have a great season this year because it gets difficult to have back-to-back mediocre seasons at a place like Auburn, especially after early success (see Chizik). Gus will need a great season and a win over Bama this year just when thinking long-term. Should he not, next year with a younger team things will be getting hot. Not "you're fired" type of hot, but, "Hey, you need to turn things around quickly or we're looking elsewhere." That may sound silly to some, but think about it... should he lose to Bama two years in a row, a third will not go over well. But if he has a great season and beats Bama this year, a mediocre season next year will be acceptable / normal. 2015 season won't be much like 2011 season. Jeremy Johnson is better than Barrett Trotter and Clint Moseley. You forgot about Jovon Robinson at RB, too. I think this and next season has the potential to be much like 2004 and 2005 than 2010 and 2011. IMO. we play a TON of underclassmen. The drop off will be much smaller than it appears on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 We lose a lot at particular positions (RB and DT), but the rest is normal turnover. Even if Young or Coleman went pro after this year, we'd have 2/5 of the line back and a third (Miller) with starting experience to plug the open OT spot, and that's a worst case scenario. We could see a lot of turnover at WR, which would be tough losing Marshall, CAP/Grant, and Duke/Sammie. That's certainly possible, which puts pressure on the OL, but at the same time, (keep in mind, I LOVE CAP and Corey and think they'll both be great this year) we should see an uptick in talent at RB next season with Robinson, Roc (So), and Barber (So). Plus, you've got Johnson at QB, and we're grooming him. This is closer to Dameyune Craig taking over than Barrett Trotter. Jeremy is extremely talented and won't be entirely green. On the other side, the only position with a larger-than-normal turnover will be DT. We lose Mincy and Reed at CB, Whitehead and King at Safety. Those are the only rotation guys I expect to lose in the back seven. We lose one DE (Owens). The rest of the losses come from DT, which obviously an issue, but that's life. 2015 is going to be a LOT better than 2011. That's my prediction at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Even if Young or Coleman went pro after this year, we'd have 2/5 of the line back and a third (Miller) with starting experience to plug the open OT spot, and that's a worst case scenario. We could see a lot of turnover at WR I think those are our keys. I contend that just about any decent QB will succeed under Gus as long as he'd got a good offensive line, WRs who will block and good RBs behind him. That last item is a given for the foreseeable future, and mcgufcm makes a strong case that the first item should be okay in 2015 (as long as we can find a reliable center- either way, depth at OL is better than we could ever hope for right now, and it appears as though that will continue to be the case as long as Gus and JB Grimes are working together at Auburn). 2011 just needs to be buried. Gus wasn't in charge that season. He is now. I guess some folks just refuse to recognize a good thing even when it's sitting in their laps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnNTexas 7,133 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Even if Young or Coleman went pro after this year, we'd have 2/5 of the line back and a third (Miller) with starting experience to plug the open OT spot, and that's a worst case scenario. We could see a lot of turnover at WR I think those are our keys. I contend that just about any decent QB will succeed under Gus as long as he'd got a good offensive line, WRs who will block and good RBs behind him. That last item is a given for the foreseeable future, and mcgufcm makes a strong case that the first item should be okay in 2015 (as long as we can find a reliable center- either way, depth at OL is better than we could ever hope for right now, and it appears as though that will continue to be the case as long as Gus and JB Grimes are working together at Auburn). 2011 just needs to be buried. Gus wasn't in charge that season. He is now. I guess some folks just refuse to recognize a good thing even when it's sitting in their laps. We brought Dampeer in from JC as the Center after Reese for one year. While we will loose some O-Line guys we have some really good young backups and we look like we will be bringing in a bumper crop this year on NSD. We loose two linebackers but look like we have some new ones who will be freshman this year and what looks like a strong class of LB this coming NSD. DT is the area we will need help just like last year we might be playing some freshman as we just might also do this year so might not be as bad off as it seems. We are loaded at RB and as I said above O-Line should be good so WR might be an issue especially since Auburn expects WR's to block which a lot if Freshman WR's can't do. Overall we will be solid next year and might even be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagleAU 0 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 We lose a lot at particular positions (RB and DT), but the rest is normal turnover. Even if Young or Coleman went pro after this year, we'd have 2/5 of the line back and a third (Miller) with starting experience to plug the open OT spot, and that's a worst case scenario. We could see a lot of turnover at WR, which would be tough losing Marshall, CAP/Grant, and Duke/Sammie. That's certainly possible, which puts pressure on the OL, but at the same time, (keep in mind, I LOVE CAP and Corey and think they'll both be great this year) we should see an uptick in talent at RB next season with Robinson, Roc (So), and Barber (So). Plus, you've got Johnson at QB, and we're grooming him. This is closer to Dameyune Craig taking over than Barrett Trotter. Jeremy is extremely talented and won't be entirely green. On the other side, the only position with a larger-than-normal turnover will be DT. We lose Mincy and Reed at CB, Whitehead and King at Safety. Those are the only rotation guys I expect to lose in the back seven. We lose one DE (Owens). The rest of the losses come from DT, which obviously an issue, but that's life. 2015 is going to be a LOT better than 2011. That's my prediction at least. 1 - Not really... Austin Golson got some experience as a starter at tackle spot when he was at Ole Miss. I think we will be fine with Miller, Golson and Smith at both OT spots. You can add Martez Ivey if he signed with Auburn.2 - My opinions at first was Brandon Cox but I concur with you about Dameyune Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Man, we are losing a lot of players this year. I know we have plenty waiting their turn, but your talking a lot of starters that are seniors. That's why I am not looking forward to the Louisville game in 2015. The team will be extremely inexperienced (relatively speaking) and that's a tough opener. This and next season has the potential to be much like 2010 and 2011 respectively. I know this sounds like a crazy statement given the great year Gus had, but he needs to have a great season this year because it gets difficult to have back-to-back mediocre seasons at a place like Auburn, especially after early success (see Chizik). Gus will need a great season and a win over Bama this year just when thinking long-term. Should he not, next year with a younger team things will be getting hot. Not "you're fired" type of hot, but, "Hey, you need to turn things around quickly or we're looking elsewhere." That may sound silly to some, but think about it... should he lose to Bama two years in a row, a third will not go over well. But if he has a great season and beats Bama this year, a mediocre season next year will be acceptable / normal. 2015 season won't be much like 2011 season. Jeremy Johnson is better than Barrett Trotter and Clint Moseley. You forgot about Jovon Robinson at RB, too. I think this and next season has the potential to be much like 2004 and 2005 than 2010 and 2011. IMO. we play a TON of underclassmen. The drop off will be much smaller than it appears on paper. Agree. We lost 25 senior after 2010 and also Cam and Nick....and had very little behind them for a couple years. Chiz and Gus have done some great recruiting and have built depth in about every position....so while you hate to lose the seniors, that's the way college football is. What is important is to keep the pipeline full and give the up-and-coming young guys some serious playing time....say.....like against Arky State, or Samford or whoever...and groom them for the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 We brought Dampeer in from JC as the Center after Reese for one year. Correct, but Reese is possibly the best center in the nation. Additionally, of all OL positions, center is not the one most likely for a seamless transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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