AU64 10,122 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Might as well keep a permanent site for this kid. Has not reported to Bama yet, never taken a snap in an SEC football game, has not even been named as the starter and yet....and yet.....Mel K. speculates that he could be a top draft NFL choice. I won't post a link but if you are curious check al.com. So what are the odds that at least one SEC all star team will have him ranked as first team QB? ...or certainly no worse than 2nd team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytonAU 4,606 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Your first problem is listening to Mel Kiper, the second is Al.com. Back to Coker, he hasn't proven a damn thing other than the 45 snaps he took at FSU. I don't really think Saban cares though, all Coker needs is a decent arm to throw the screen pass to Amari Cooper. He also needs to know how to hand the ball off to Yeldon and Henry. He is in my opinion (which means nothing) McCarron 2.0, he's going to look decent because of the amount of talent around him, just like McCarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 What's going to be hilarious is if the kid is buying into all of this hype around him, comes into bama expecting to walk away with the Heisman, a national championship, and a 1st round draft pick, and saban tells him that he has to play ball control. it worked with McCarron, because he was so far up saban's butt that he tasted saban's breakfast before saban did, but you get a kid coming in there who wants the limelight and he's going to give saban a huge headache. It'll be like trying to coach Johnny Football, without the over-the-top talent to make it worth the effort. I honestly predict that he will be a bust or a thorn in saban's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcivE09 582 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Keep in mind he lost his job to a freshman who looked pretty homely in his one game against a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,924 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 What's going to be hilarious is if the kid is buying into all of this hype around him, comes into bama expecting to walk away with the Heisman, a national championship, and a 1st round draft pick, and saban tells him that he has to play ball control. it worked with McCarron, because he was so far up saban's butt that he tasted saban's breakfast before saban did, but you get a kid coming in there who wants the limelight and he's going to give saban a huge headache. It'll be like trying to coach Johnny Football, without the over-the-top talent to make it worth the effort. I honestly predict that he will be a bust or a thorn in saban's side. If the kid wasn't a thorn in Jimbo's side when he lost the limelight to Winston then I don't see him causing Saban too many headaches. But IDK what goes through a kids head these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegle777 78 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Saturday Down South has Coker as a Heisman dark horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 What's going to be hilarious is if the kid is buying into all of this hype around him, comes into bama expecting to walk away with the Heisman, a national championship, and a 1st round draft pick, and saban tells him that he has to play ball control. it worked with McCarron, because he was so far up saban's butt that he tasted saban's breakfast before saban did, but you get a kid coming in there who wants the limelight and he's going to give saban a huge headache. It'll be like trying to coach Johnny Football, without the over-the-top talent to make it worth the effort. I honestly predict that he will be a bust or a thorn in saban's side. If the kid wasn't a thorn in Jimbo's side when he lost the limelight to Winston then I don't see him causing Saban too many headaches. But IDK what goes through a kids head these days. Jimbo wouldn't have asked him to play classic saban ball management. He would have let him carry the game, just like he lets Winston, if he won the starting role. He, obviously, wants to play, and I don't think he's going to be happy as a hand-off specialist, especially now that he's got the bama nation proclaiming him a world beater. I guess there is a chance that saban will change up his offense to highlight the QB, but I'd be shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootskii 264 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Your first problem is listening to Mel Kiper, the second is Al.com. Back to Coker, he hasn't proven a damn thing other than the 45 snaps he took at FSU. I don't really think Saban cares though, all Coker needs is a decent arm to throw the screen pass to Amari Cooper. He also needs to know how to hand the ball off to Yeldon and Henry. He is in my opinion (which means nothing) McCarron 2.0, he's going to look decent because of the amount of talent around him, just like McCarron. From the video it looks like Coker would be decent in a West Coast type offense where you throw quick short strikes but when it comes to the long ball he has no accuracy. Unfortunately those short over the middle passes against our D have been our achilles heel for awhile now it seems like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJBas 4 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Coker will probably be adequate, and that may be all h needs to be. But he was 3rd in FSU's depth chart comong out of last year's spring game. No reason to expect great things from him. But a year ago there really was no reason to expect Marshall to develop into the superb QB he's on his way to becoming either. Coker, though, had Kiffen, while Marshall still has Malzahn. big difference. Still, hepll probably do until something better turns up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 He's been in the big time...but not the lead dog. I expect he will be plenty nervous coming into a situation where he is already being proclaimed a savior...and knowing how tolerant the bammers will be the first time he lets a game get away. Not an enviable position for him...would have better to come as a freshman with modest expectations ...but this is gonna be tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 What I saw from the video is that he's got pretty nifty feet. Assuming he starts, he's by far the most athletic guy Saban OR Kiffin have had at QB (no one will mistake Leinart or Booty for Nick Marshall). Oddly though, he doesn't throw a particularly good ball on the move. That was/is the brilliance of Johnny Football. He can deliver an accurate throw from all sorts of arm angles in spite of awkward foot placement. At least from this video, Coker needs to set his feet and throw over the top to put the ball on the money, which makes him less threatening when he breaks the pocket. He also looked terrible throwing RB screen. Those flip passes were all over the map. But you can see what people like. He can drive the hell out of the ball, which allows him to risk throwing into tight windows, and he's a big, athletic guy. I think he'll be good. I don't expect him to be a dominant QB this year. I don't really like Kiffin as a playcaller, especially last year when he lost confidence in his QBs and never took shots downfield. If he's the bad Lane from the last two years at USC, it won't matter what Coker is capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ17 0 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Holy crap how many threads are we going to have about this guy?? I think this "savior" term is being blown way out of proportion. Ever since CNS has been at Alabama their QB play has need been worse than decent. I don't think he is going to be the next Peyton Manning but he is going to be playing on a team that is loaded with 4 and 5 star talent including a probable 1st round WR Amari Cooper. Bottom line they don't need a savior they just need a game manager. That's how it's been since 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 Holy crap how many threads are we going to have about this guy?? I think this "savior" term is being blown way out of proportion. Ever since CNS has been at Alabama their QB play has need been worse than decent. I don't think he is going to be the next Peyton Manning but he is going to be playing on a team that is loaded with 4 and 5 star talent including a probable 1st round WR Amari Cooper. Bottom line they don't need a savior they just need a game manager. That's how it's been since 2007. That may be your view..but that's not the typical bammer view. This season is on him...and if bama loses a game or two with all the talent they have, it will be the QB;s fault. ..just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTiger 3,901 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Holy crap how many threads are we going to have about this guy?? I think this "savior" term is being blown way out of proportion. Ever since CNS has been at Alabama their QB play has need been worse than decent. I don't think he is going to be the next Peyton Manning but he is going to be playing on a team that is loaded with 4 and 5 star talent including a probable 1st round WR Amari Cooper. Bottom line they don't need a savior they just need a game manager. That's how it's been since 2007. That may be your view..but that's not the typical bammer view. This season is on him...and if bama loses a game or two with all the talent they have, it will be the QB;s fault. ..just sayin' Because he's the perfect scapegoat. In the eyes of the uater nothing is saban's fault. Coker is new to the program. Most of the other players have been there (save the freshmen of course) and so he's the one that will shoulder the blame when they lose. It gives the uaters a built in excuse when they lose and it gives saban a fresh player to pass the blame too like he so often does. It's a perfect storm for uat. If he's successful (which I doubt he will be) he'll be pimped as the greatest ever (like he already is in the minds of the uaters). If he fails, the entire teams losses will be his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdgeneration 6,469 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Here's to hoping Coker earns a well-place "h" for his name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ17 0 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Holy crap how many threads are we going to have about this guy?? I think this "savior" term is being blown way out of proportion. Ever since CNS has been at Alabama their QB play has need been worse than decent. I don't think he is going to be the next Peyton Manning but he is going to be playing on a team that is loaded with 4 and 5 star talent including a probable 1st round WR Amari Cooper. Bottom line they don't need a savior they just need a game manager. That's how it's been since 2007. That may be your view..but that's not the typical bammer view. This season is on him...and if bama loses a game or two with all the talent they have, it will be the QB;s fault. ..just sayin' Well that may very well happen. It's hard as hell to go undefeated. Even if the Bams lose 1-2, sometimes it's out of the QB's control. Every loss is different. They have a pretty easy September for him to get adjusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTUmike 79 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Just watched the highlights posted by Clayton, and wow is Coker's footwork terrible. He has lazy feet and doesn't even step into many of his throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrights_Mill_Road 2 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 bama is in trouble. you can feel the icy embrace of panic among its fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson SG 88 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 If Coker was that good, Jimbo never would have released him from his scholarship. Jimbo would not want a former star player of his possibly suiting up against his squad. I know he graduated, but had Jimbo not released him, he would have had to sit out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,924 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 If Coker was that good, Jimbo never would have released him from his scholarship. Jimbo would not want a former star player of his possibly suiting up against his squad. I know he graduated, but had Jimbo not released him, he would have had to sit out. Ummm... What could Jimbo have done to prevent Coker from graduating from FSU and taking his talents to another conference? The decision wasn't up to Fisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson SG 88 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 If Coker was that good, Jimbo never would have released him from his scholarship. Jimbo would not want a former star player of his possibly suiting up against his squad. I know he graduated, but had Jimbo not released him, he would have had to sit out. Ummm... What could Jimbo have done to prevent Coker from graduating from FSU and taking his talents to another conference? The decision wasn't up to Fisher. He could have delayed his playing immediately by not releasing him from his scholarship. Had he not released him, he would have had to sit out a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 If Coker was that good, Jimbo never would have released him from his scholarship. Jimbo would not want a former star player of his possibly suiting up against his squad. I know he graduated, but had Jimbo not released him, he would have had to sit out. Ummm... What could Jimbo have done to prevent Coker from graduating from FSU and taking his talents to another conference? The decision wasn't up to Fisher. Haven't you been reading the Prothro testimony....they could have pointed him to a useless major with no defined graduation requirements like Bama did for Prothro. It's easy if the coaches have the proper motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson SG 88 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 If Coker was that good, Jimbo never would have released him from his scholarship. Jimbo would not want a former star player of his possibly suiting up against his squad. I know he graduated, but had Jimbo not released him, he would have had to sit out. Ummm... What could Jimbo have done to prevent Coker from graduating from FSU and taking his talents to another conference? The decision wasn't up to Fisher. He could have delayed his playing immediately by not releasing him from his scholarship. Had he not released him, he would have had to sit out a year. Also, the coach that releases the player from the scholarship can specify which schools the player can or cannot be released to. For example, Fisher could have said that Coker could be released to play at any SEC school except Alabama. This would mean that he could play immediately at all other SEC schools. If he still went to bammer, he would have to sit out a year. Again, this is why I beleive that Fisher does not think as highly of Coker as most do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeaauburn 21 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I had the opportunity to speak with a former AU player from the 70's who compared Coker to our Clint Mosley, very talented but would not be able to adapt to the speed of SEC play. He went on to say that he believed Mosley with a football and baseball state championship under his belt was a better athlete coming out of high school than Coker. He somewhat predicted a Coker melt-down for the Gumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle84 0 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 If Coker was that good, Jimbo never would have released him from his scholarship. Jimbo would not want a former star player of his possibly suiting up against his squad. I know he graduated, but had Jimbo not released him, he would have had to sit out. Ummm... What could Jimbo have done to prevent Coker from graduating from FSU and taking his talents to another conference? The decision wasn't up to Fisher. He could have delayed his playing immediately by not releasing him from his scholarship. Had he not released him, he would have had to sit out a year. Not true. The sitting out a year is due to the transfer rule, which Coker's graduation negates. The release from scholarship only affects whether he can go on scholarship at his new school or has to pay his own way. I'm not sure if graduation affects that rule or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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