alexava 6,973 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Ok, what is the plan for Garrett and Therezie? If Justin is as good as we heard before the injury(and I think he is) he has to be on the field. Therezie HAS to be on the field too, we should all agree on this. Should JG move down to OLB(which he did as he attempted to return last season. Or should RT move back to safety? It might depend on the production of the others vying for the two safety spots. I think JG is more natural, instinctive LB than Kris Frost. JMO Let's discuss LB for real. Addressed on page 4 thx ellitor. i still think they both should have a spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle84 0 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Anyone have any word on Javier Mitchell? He was great 2 plays on a row stuffing the run in the goal line stand at Arkansas. I don't recall seeing much of him beyond that. My assumption was that he had issues with pass coverage so they only played him in obvious running situations. Will he be a factor in the LB rotation this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,062 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Anyone have any word on Javier Mitchell? He was great 2 plays on a row stuffing the run in the goal line stand at Arkansas. I don't recall seeing much of him beyond that. My assumption was that he had issues with pass coverage so they only played him in obvious running situations. Will he be a factor in the LB rotation this year? Tough call. Cass and Frost are starters and guys like Tre and Flowers are hungry. CEJ usually only goes 2 deep at LB in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TexasTiger 55 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Mitchell has been somewhat of an enigma. He has all of the measurements to be able to play the Star position but couldn't pick it up. I think he is still slated as a MLB but hasn't put on the weight for the position. It's very puzzling because he can play ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronCrazy 1,057 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Mitchell played with his hand in the ground at Leeds. I wouldn't be surprised if they used him at a rush DE on 3rd downs with Lawson likely out for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,062 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Mitchell played with his hand in the ground at Leeds. I wouldn't be surprised if they used him at a rush DE on 3rd downs with Lawson likely out for the year. At 210 LBS he'd have to gain a ton of weight to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalsinger418 88 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Anyone have any word on Javier Mitchell? He was great 2 plays on a row stuffing the run in the goal line stand at Arkansas. I don't recall seeing much of him beyond that. My assumption was that he had issues with pass coverage so they only played him in obvious running situations. Will he be a factor in the LB rotation this year? He got injured right after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 he shows a lot of energy when in the game especially on special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TexasTiger 55 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 He could be another Craig Sanders type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaBoyMaxWeezy 0 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I think we will have one of the better LB units in the SEC. We finally have maturity and talent at the position, something we have not had in a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N2AUtigers 5 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Anyone think Garret figures into this discussion somewhere? Hard to believe he will be relegated to back up duty at Star, after the way the coaching staff raved about him last preseason. As of now indications are he will not play much LB nor be relegated to back up at Star either. The plan is for RT to play more versus spread pass teams and JG play more against power run teams. Expect to see dual star packages with both RT and JG on the field at the same time some. Just curious, who would come off field. A DL or a Safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milnewd 0 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Mitchell played with his hand in the ground at Leeds. I wouldn't be surprised if they used him at a rush DE on 3rd downs with Lawson likely out for the year. Wasn't he getting a lot of hype at OLB in spring or fall camp last year? and then got injured or something? Maybe I'm mixing that up with JG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,062 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 @ N2AU: Depends on the situation. Could be a LB too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war eagle6 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I think we will have one of the better LB units in the SEC. We finally have maturity and talent at the position, something we have not had in a very long time. This^^ 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaBoyMaxWeezy 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Javier Mitchell could play DE at 6'2, 203 lbs??? With how much unreal talent we have at LB I doubt he will ever see much playing time. I find it hard to belive he will crack the rotation of Frost, Cas, Swain, William, Toney, Flowers, Garrett or Davis. We are absolutely loadddddddded at LB and only adding more talent (Williams, McBryde, and hopefully Holland). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war eagle6 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Javier Mitchell could play DE at 6'2, 203 lbs??? With how much unreal talent we have at LB I doubt he will ever see much playing time. I find it hard to belive he will crack the rotation of Frost, Cas, Swain, William, Toney, Flowers, Garrett or Davis. We are absolutely loadddddddded at LB and only adding more talent (Williams, McBryde, and hopefully Holland). Agreed, and the linebackers this year is MUCH better than last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaBoyMaxWeezy 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Javier Mitchell could play DE at 6'2, 203 lbs??? With how much unreal talent we have at LB I doubt he will ever see much playing time. I find it hard to belive he will crack the rotation of Frost, Cas, Swain, William, Toney, Flowers, Garrett or Davis. We are absolutely loadddddddded at LB and only adding more talent (Williams, McBryde, and hopefully Holland). Agreed, and the linebackers this year is MUCH better than last year! It's pretty funny Just a few years ago we had Bates (a 2* safety), Holland (a white guy), Richardson (a walk on Rhodes scholar) and Evans (a 3 star). The average size of those guys was under 6 foot and 220 lbs....you will get absolutely murdered with that combination of guys. Now we got 6 guys that average 6'2, 240 lbs and are 4+ star recruits....you can dominate with those characteristics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war eagle6 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Javier Mitchell could play DE at 6'2, 203 lbs??? With how much unreal talent we have at LB I doubt he will ever see much playing time. I find it hard to belive he will crack the rotation of Frost, Cas, Swain, William, Toney, Flowers, Garrett or Davis. We are absolutely loadddddddded at LB and only adding more talent (Williams, McBryde, and hopefully Holland). Agreed, and the linebackers this year is MUCH better than last year! It's pretty funny Just a few years ago we had Bates (a 2* safety), Holland (a white guy), Richardson (a walk on Rhodes scholar) and Evans (a 3 star). The average size of those guys was under 6 foot and 220 lbs....you will get absolutely murdered with that combination of guys. Now we got 6 guys that average 6'2, 240 lbs and are 4+ star recruits....you can dominate with those characteristics! Agreed, and I also remember the sunshine pumping/ scolding if u spoke on how terrible linebacker play was with those guys u mentioned. Nothing against them, it's just that they were NOT sec caliber linebackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaBoyMaxWeezy 0 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Javier Mitchell could play DE at 6'2, 203 lbs??? With how much unreal talent we have at LB I doubt he will ever see much playing time. I find it hard to belive he will crack the rotation of Frost, Cas, Swain, William, Toney, Flowers, Garrett or Davis. We are absolutely loadddddddded at LB and only adding more talent (Williams, McBryde, and hopefully Holland). Agreed, and the linebackers this year is MUCH better than last year! It's pretty funny Just a few years ago we had Bates (a 2* safety), Holland (a white guy), Richardson (a walk on Rhodes scholar) and Evans (a 3 star). The average size of those guys was under 6 foot and 220 lbs....you will get absolutely murdered with that combination of guys. Now we got 6 guys that average 6'2, 240 lbs and are 4+ star recruits....you can dominate with those characteristics! Agreed, and I also remember the sunshine pumping/ scolding if u spoke on how terrible linebacker play was with those guys u mentioned. Nothing against them, it's just that they were NOT sec caliber linebackers. Hahahahahahhaha yup! I got kicked off for speaking the truth ab those guys!!! Gotta call it like I see it, and to be an "offensive" coach, Gus has recruited the hell outta some defensive players! Very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Javier Mitchell could play DE at 6'2, 203 lbs??? With how much unreal talent we have at LB I doubt he will ever see much playing time. I find it hard to belive he will crack the rotation of Frost, Cas, Swain, William, Toney, Flowers, Garrett or Davis. We are absolutely loadddddddded at LB and only adding more talent (Williams, McBryde, and hopefully Holland). Agreed, and the linebackers this year is MUCH better than last year! It's pretty funny Just a few years ago we had Bates (a 2* safety), Holland (a white guy), Richardson (a walk on Rhodes scholar) and Evans (a 3 star). The average size of those guys was under 6 foot and 220 lbs....you will get absolutely murdered with that combination of guys. Now we got 6 guys that average 6'2, 240 lbs and are 4+ star recruits....you can dominate with those characteristics! is that really your only beef on holland? do tell me exactly why you got kicked off?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimesAU 89 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Javier Mitchell could play DE at 6'2, 203 lbs??? With how much unreal talent we have at LB I doubt he will ever see much playing time. I find it hard to belive he will crack the rotation of Frost, Cas, Swain, William, Toney, Flowers, Garrett or Davis. We are absolutely loadddddddded at LB and only adding more talent (Williams, McBryde, and hopefully Holland). Agreed, and the linebackers this year is MUCH better than last year! It's pretty funny Just a few years ago we had Bates (a 2* safety), Holland (a white guy), Richardson (a walk on Rhodes scholar) and Evans (a 3 star). The average size of those guys was under 6 foot and 220 lbs....you will get absolutely murdered with that combination of guys. Now we got 6 guys that average 6'2, 240 lbs and are 4+ star recruits....you can dominate with those characteristics! is that really your only beef on holland? do tell me exactly why you got kicked off?? Seriously...stupid comment of the day. Holland wasn't an All-Star but it had nothing to do with his skin color. A lot of people in this thread are SUPER pumped about us being "stacked" at the LB position. Sorry, but I just want to see some of these guys live up to the hype before I declare us "stacked". I don't care how many stars they have or what their measurables are, I want to see it on the field. Justin Garrett is a guy who was reportedly coming on very strong before his injury last year(like best player on the defense strong). If he's back to 100% I'd think he'll be contending for some serious PT. Sucks that he and Cadillac- another standout- essentially play the exact same position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,546 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Quoting chimesAU: "Sorry, but I just want to see some of these guys live up to the hype before I declare us "stacked". I don't care how many stars they have or what their measurables are, I want to see it on the field." Careful there, chimes. I've been cussed from hell to breakfast for pointing out that their on-field accomplishments have been ordinary at best. I'd love to see them do it up bigtime, but our returning LB's have yet to make the long leap from where they've been to top of the line SEC players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TexasTiger 55 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Quoting chimesAU: "Sorry, but I just want to see some of these guys live up to the hype before I declare us "stacked". I don't care how many stars they have or what their measurables are, I want to see it on the field." Careful there, chimes. I've been cussed from hell to breakfast for pointing out that their on-field accomplishments have been ordinary at best. I'd love to see them do it up bigtime, but our returning LB's have yet to make the long leap from where they've been to top of the line SEC players. No Mikey, that's not the position you have expressed. Your position has been "Our linebackers are not all sec quality and we need to start freshman because the guys we have will never be all sec quality." So are you officially changing your position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N2AUtigers 5 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 @ N2AU: Depends on the situation. Could be a LB too. Yea like a dime package with K Frost left in the middle. Prob be an awesome set if you think about it. Like a Hybrid 4-3/dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,062 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 @ N2AU: Depends on the situation. Could be a LB too. Yea like a dime package with K Frost left in the middle. Prob be an awesome set if you think about it. Like a Hybrid 4-3/dime. Cass and Frost flipped positions this Spring. Cass is expected MLB now. Not sure who would play MLB in 1 LB sets though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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