JFDTiger80 787 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Gotta think the services do not give much love to FB's. They don't for the most part. Scout is the only service that has CC as a 4*. The rest have him at a 3*. Most services rate recruits on pro draft potential. That's why you'll never see more than 1 or 2 FBs/HBs a year with a 4*.FTR I don't like recruiting services rating high school players on pro draft potential. I understand there is some natural overlap on a number of positions and schemes but the bottom line is their main job is to evaluate kids on how they project the impact kids will have on their college team. Chandler Cox is a perfect example. He is a 3* on three of the 4 major services. Now it is up to Chandler to live up to his potential but there is no way somebody can convince me that CC does not have the potential to have a 4* impact for any team that uses a FB/HB whether it be pro set Os like UGA, LSU, Wisky or power run space teams like AU. Positions that don't get drafted as high or as much get penalized wrongly IMO. All positions should have a skill and some cases size criteria, including C, FB, K, & P, that an evaluator should analyze to rate their star level. If the prospect meets all the criteria or a very high % of it then that prospect should be a 5 *. There does not have to be a 5* at every position. If the most likely impact of the best player at a position is a 4* then so be it but it should be on how their skills and size translate to the college level, not the pro level. College football and NFL football are vastly different games after all. Well said E. I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,038 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 November 4th show http://media.vsporto.s3.amazonaws.com/_shows/wareaglesportsradio/2014-11-03-50731651-AuburnUndercover11.4.14.mp3 Latest on John Burt -On flip watch -High school O Coordinator Jaques Green feels Burt is perfect fit for AU & compared Burt to former Gator great Ike Hillard. -Mom still likes Texas Latest on 4* OT Chidi Valentine Okeke -reclassified to 2015 class -wants to enroll in January -Will OV AU in December -Moved from Nigeria 2 years ago -CVO & Ivey are both takes - plans to commit at the Army game in January Top Ten Most wanted rundown -This is what AUC believes, not staff's actual list Update on Terry Beckner -National analyst Steve Wilfong feels AU is solidly in the mix -AU has not visited TB yet but will right after Iron Bowl Also touched on Daron Payne and D'Andre Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,038 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 November 6th show http://media.vsporto.s3.amazonaws.com/_shows/wareaglesportsradio/2014-11-06-1264382617-AuburnUndercoverNov6.mp3 Martez Ivey rundown Hit on Terry Godwin Nate Craig update (most of this is already in his thread.) Touched on game and season for Monty Atkinson & Elijah Sullivan Also touched on Jason Smith's season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,038 Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 November 11th show http://media.vsporto.s3.amazonaws.com/_shows/wareaglesportsradio/2014-11-10-154644917-AuburnUndercoverNov11.mp3 In depth on Martez Ivey's AU OV -Blown away by Tiger Walk -Got into the game as a fan -AU felt visit went as well as it could In depth on D'Andre Walker -Will OV AU (no date set yet) -AU hopes to have him in on December 13 for the AU awards banquet -plans to commit at the Army All American Bowl on January 3rd -Had a great visi for the TAMU game -Going to the AU-UGA game to watch both teams closely In Depth on Tyron Johnson -will OV for Samford game -could be very good for AU if JJ throws the ball In depth on John Burt -a matter if when not if Durt flips to AU at this point -could happen this week or after his high school playoffs are over -his family in Georgia & Florida likes being able to come see him play at Auburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUEngineer2016 407 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 In depth on John Burt -a matter if when not if Burt flips to AU at this point -could happen this week or after his high school playoffs are over -his family in Georgia & Florida likes being able to come see him play at Auburn Small spelling error E. You're slipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnphan 6,050 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 E- thanks for posting the podcasts, greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,038 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 E- thanks for posting the podcasts, greatly appreciated. No problem. I listen to them all. I might as well post and sum them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,038 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 November 13th show http://media.vsporto.s3.amazonaws.com/_shows/wareaglesportsradio/2014-11-13-1490271365-AuburnUndercoverNov13.mp3 5* WR Tyron Johnson -trusted source compares TJ to Speed Noil -high school team has a rule of no OVs while HS team is playing -If TJ visits for Samford game it will be an UOV -TJ has not indicated to his dad that AU leads -AU a strong contender -almost certainly will visit for Samford -If Sameford is an UOV he will visit again for an OV -Other contenders are Okie St, LSU TJ concerned about LSU's QBs -AU, Okie St, & LSU will get OVs Nate Craig -may still reopen things at some point -focused on recovering right now, not recruiting -will not visit UGA this weekend for the AU game as originally planned Daron Payne -sources to AUC are not shooting down reports of AU leading for DP but think Bama leads 60-40 -AU staff feel they have a legit shot with DP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggwilliams 61 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Thanks E, hope to let JJ show out against the mighty Samford Bulldogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,038 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 November 17th show http://media.vsporto.s3.amazonaws.com/_shows/wareaglesportsradio/2014-11-17-691622225-AuburnUndercoverNov17.mp3 Kerryon Johnson -Will OV AU, Bama, & FSU in January (This should not be alarming to anyone nor is it a sign of him waiver. KJ has always naintained he would OV all 3 schools. He even said it in a commitment interview.) -FSU has not been in touch w/ KJ much latrely -Bama has been in touch -Has become an AU fan & he was disappointed as we all were the way AU played UGA and his tweets Saturday reflected that -Bama & FSU now recruiting KJ to play RB & WR -still heavily recruits for AU John Burt -JB & dad leaning AU -Mom leans Texas -Texas looking for contingency plans -JB is not an EE per his dad -recruited to play Sammie Coates role DJ Jones -FSU commit -likes the potential of early PT at AU a lot -Garner wants a juco DT that can play immediately -committed to FSU before looking heavily at other schools -will OV Ole Miss for Egg Bowl -plans to sign on juco NSD which is December 17th Terry Beckner -247 analyst who covers the midwest feels AU is a serious threat -AU getting very good vibes from Beckner even though the 2 sides have never met yet Montavius Atkinson -looks to be perfect for the Star position -picked off Queen 2 times Friday -high jump is 6 feet 8 inches -exceptional athlete Tyler Queen -complete 50% of his passes Friday -WR legitimately dropped 10 passes -very good runner when healthy D'Andre Walker -lightning quick and aggressive -pass rush specialist -needs to get bigger -Top 3 still AU, UGA, Tennessee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsterjam 107 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I don't doubt Atkinson is a great athlete but no way he has a 6 feet 8 inch vertical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 16,951 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 No way in heck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1auburn1 1,102 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I don't doubt Atkinson is a great athlete but no way he has a 6 feet 8 inch vertical. Wow! He should play basketball!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwings 75 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I don't doubt Atkinson is a great athlete but no way he has a 6 feet 8 inch vertical. Maybe high jump from track? Best I have seen or heard of is about is a 48-49" vertical, a hair over 4'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsterjam 107 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Just listened and yes they said high jump, not vertical jump. Huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
au_bsci_04 407 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 For reference, the US high school record for high jump is 7'-5", so his 6'-8" is pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,038 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Just listened and yes they said high jump, not vertical jump. Huge difference. Not really. High jump is a form of vertical jumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,038 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Sorry guys. I was typing and listening at the same time so it was easy to get a word wrong. Atkinson part is fixed. 6'8 high jump not vert jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,461 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 David Thompson, aka David Skywalker, had a 48" vertical, so no, 6'8" isn't possible. Six-eight high jump is more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I can't imagine what it would be like to jump 48" off the ground. That's just crazy. I mean, that means you clear a human without lifting your legs. Sorry. That's not on topic. I just got lost in the fact that a person of the same species as me has ever done that. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredst 9,064 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 We need Jones, Becker, and Walker and need Atkinson to stick. I hope the stars somehow align for that despite the poor product we've put on the field on D in recent weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredst 9,064 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 We need Jones, Becker, and Walker and need Atkinson to stick. I hope the stars somehow align for that despite the poor product we've put on the field on D in recent weeks. *Beckner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronCrazy 1,042 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 What's up with the recruiting podcasts?! I'm disappointed in Hoke and Neibuhr... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,038 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 What's up with the recruiting podcasts?! I'm disappointed in Hoke and Neibuhr... Just be glad they were doing them. They don't have to do them and make them free ya know. I can tell you they have not done any this week because Hoke is in Vegas covering the basketball team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,038 Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 December 4th show http://media.vsporto.s3.amazonaws.com/_shows/wareaglesportsradio/2014-12-03-467680147-AuburnUndercoverDec4.mp3 -Ellis Johnson firing will not impact recruits or commits -Ellis was not a main recruiter -New hire should impact the class -A defensive scheme chane could affect the class -McBryde sold on AU regardless of who the new DC is -5* DE Byron Cowart says Boom would put AU in the hunt for him if we hire Boom -Cowart wants to be a hybrid DE/LB and that's what Boom recruited him for -AU 4th for Cowart right now -Don't think AU hiring Boom would effect Ivey's choice much -4 coaches visited Ivey this week and went very well -visited Godwin and Christian Kirk last Wednesday -Coach Smith visited Tony Bridges on Thursday -Coaches went to see Tyron Johnson and Shea Patterson -Shea is believed to be an Ole Miss lean -Coaches will go see 2016 5* RB Tavien Feaster play in state championship game -Garner will see Marquavius Lewis today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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