Ed_ 3 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I have not been a fan of CEJ since he got here but tonight really solidified my desire to see him gone; however, I have heard a number of my AU friends say they are not ready to give up on him. So in the spirit of being open minded I would like to hear from anyone who supports keeping CEJ and hear your reasoning (preferably factually supported arguments) for thinking he should be kept after this season. For those that want to see him gone and feel the need to comment same request goes for you. Make your best factually supported argument as to why we would be better off looking for a new DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift 350 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Two words: Poor execution. Now, who is responsible for execution? This is where you will find your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war eagle6 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Never was impressed with the hire from the get go. He was fired from a winless team that he coached. Next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburntiger1987 759 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Gone. Weve recruited enough talent yo be competitive. He is not a coach or recruiter and therefore dies not deserve a job. The sane problem is apparent every game but is not assessed.The short pass is hard to defend but should not kill our defense like it has. Coach cheese can follow him out the door. We can find better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubfaninga 16 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I have not been a fan of CEJ since he got here but tonight really solidified my desire to see him gone; however, I have heard a number of my AU friends say they are not ready to give up on him. So in the spirit of being open minded I would like to hear from anyone who supports keeping CEJ and hear your reasoning (preferably factually supported arguments) for thinking he should be kept after this season. For those that want to see him gone and feel the need to comment same request goes for you. Make your best factually supported argument as to why we would be better off looking for a new DC. I will bite. I say finish the season and see if he and the staff has any salt about them. Demand results and see if the players and coaches respond. If they don't then the blame is on his shoulders and GUS is left with his first tough decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Brown 2,391 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I have no argument to keep CEJ, and agree with you that he should go. Our defense has regressed with him. WE always make adjustments at the half and at least play better in the second half. Why can we not be ready from the start? The game is 60 minutes and not 30 minutes long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-HANDLEY-TIGER 205 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I can't defend him I was shocked Gus hired him after he was able to hang half a hundred on his D in 2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,345 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I have no positives to say about this defense--coaching, execution, or otherwise. We are flat-out bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war eagle6 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I have no argument to keep CEJ, and agree with you that he should go. Our defense has regressed with him. WE always make adjustments at the half and at least play better in the second half. Why can we not be ready from the start? The game is 60 minutes and not 30 minutes long. I've said all year long it was gonna bite us one day, and it finally happened. We can't and shouldn't have to wait until halftime to get this defense on trac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muxi87 148 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'm an auburn man...i support everything auburn...thus, I support T. Rock coming back as DCoord or Asst DCoord to Garner. Bye Ellis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburntiger1987 759 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Boom Will be available after the season. He will be good. Unless chiz wants to come back.As dc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 The defensive play is just mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war eagle6 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'm an auburn man...i support everything auburn...thus, I support T. Rock coming back as DCoord or Asst DCoord to Garner. Bye Ellis. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURealist 2,185 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 ...I would like to hear from anyone who supports keeping CEJ and hear your reasoning (preferably factually supported arguments) for thinking he should be kept after this season. * crickets * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubfaninga 16 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I have no positives to say about this defense--coaching, execution, or otherwise. We are flat-out bad. Their uniforms look good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDUBB4AU 5,071 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Its only going to get worse. We have talent. But no technique or discipline. I think we need to look around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,345 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I have no positives to say about this defense--coaching, execution, or otherwise. We are flat-out bad. Their uniforms look good! :drink1:/> Need some orange facemasks, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubfaninga 16 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 ...I would like to hear from anyone who supports keeping CEJ and hear your reasoning (preferably factually supported arguments) for thinking he should be kept after this season. * crickets * This could be the most one sided thread ever by the time it's run it's course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubfaninga 16 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I have no positives to say about this defense--coaching, execution, or otherwise. We are flat-out bad. Their uniforms look good! :drink1:/> Need some orange facemasks, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'm not going to say anything about Ellis Johnson because the play of our defense tonight said more then I could say and y'all it. Every time I do, I either get blasted or get banned for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_ 3 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'm an auburn man...i support everything auburn...thus, I support T. Rock coming back as DCoord or Asst DCoord to Garner. Bye Ellis. I wish we had a like button for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCBAuburnaFan 1 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 They put up 21 against LA Monroe And 0 to the turds We gave up 41 Good bye Elis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburntiger1987 759 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Bye Ellis hope you're not a coach next week for auburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,287 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Bye Ellis hope you're not a coach next week for auburn Hope all you want, but that would be just plain stupid. That move would be so devastating to the team. Not calling you out, but some on here are very near sited when it comes to football and/or football programs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aucanucktiger 1,784 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 This should not be a conclusion folks are just now reaching based on one frustrating loss. The best argument Johnson's had in his favor these 2 seasons is not enough time yet to recruit and teach. But there's always been alarming parts to his DC stint at Auburn. From day one hes persisted in using his star system, which is heavy on man on man coverage...a tall order in the SEC. Ellis is historically a good recruiter and he's overseen landing guys like Moncrief that on paper fit the system. We do NOT have the players to play what Ellis refuses to abandon or even modify. But MOST alarming is the direction we're headed (and but for LSU have been heading). Remember chiziks last month? Look at our defense's body language now. UL-Monroe's D last week did better against aTm than we did in Auburn. It's not getting better, it's getting much worse. Carl Lawson blah blah...Johnson is continuing his historic inability to coordinate winning defenses in the SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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