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Press Conference at 8pm CST.

Here's to hoping outside agitators are stopped and the residents are allowed to peacefully protest.

Yeah, here's to 'hope'.

Two New Black Panther Party Members Arrested in Ferguson Bomb Plot

I have to question as to the timing of the announcement. Why wait until dark ? :gofig:

Maybe to allow shop keepers have a full days business, then board up and get the hell out or ready their 'home defense' procedures.

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Going forward we have to figure this out on a strategic and national level. The death of Michael Brown was merely the impetus of an already brewing issue.

Do Mainstream Conservatives Support Police Brutality?

One of the principal talking points that is enduringly trotted out by the mainstream conservative movement is that police brutality is not the primary cause of black problems in America. We hear this talking point dutifully repeated by right-wing mouthpieces whenever a story of police brutality against a black male hits the news cycle. However, this talking point is an utterly meaningless straw man that solely exists for conservatives to avoid holding disreputable police officers accountable for their wanton displays of violence against black American citizens. The notion that a negative action has to be the primary cause of trouble in a community in order for it to be a serious issue worthy of being addressed is perfectly illogical.

Mainstream conservatives know that if they are forced to address police brutality as an issue, they are going to have to concede some points on stop-on-frisk, which artificially and dangerously elevates the number of encounters between black men and police officers—and undoubtedly heightens the likelihood of police brutality occurring. Curiously, mainstream conservatives who loquaciously preach about their devotion to small government also enthusiastically protect the big-government fraud that is stop-and-frisk—a policy that is as unconstitutional as it is inefficacious.

It is almost a vocation for many mainstream conservatives to pretend as though every instance of racism-induced violence is a figment of the hyper-stimulated imaginations of black Americans. This is especially true whenever it is a police officer accused of violent wrongdoing. When one believes that racism does not exist (except when one can conveniently accuse liberals of it), it becomes a chore to ensure that every race-related case is proven to be another “Tawana Brawley” playing out on the national stage. It is this kind of mindset that leads mainstream conservatives to respond with the inappropriately crass rejoinder, “Police brutality isn’t the primary problem blacks face!” when people are discussing the very real issue of police brutality and extrajudicial killing of black men in the streets of American cities.

It is remarkable that conservatives who tell black Americans not to focus on police brutality because it is not the primary problem for blacks in America are the same conservatives who defenestrate that logic while squeezing all of the political juice they can out of tragedies like the Benghazi attacks. No logical argument can be made for suggesting that Benghazi is the primary issue affecting Americans, but conservative Republicans in the House of Representatives are still taking votes on the topic, and mainstream conservatives on social media still have Benghazi ribbons and hashtags reminding fellow conservatives to “Never Forget!” More Americans are killed every year at the hands of militarized officers who engage in police brutality than were killed in that one tragic event at the Benghazi consulate in Libya. However, it is supposedly acceptable to have never-ending commentary about Benghazi, but black Americans should not speak about police brutality because it is not a “primary” concern. Where is the intellectual consistency?

One example of this glaring right-wing hypocrisy is found in the commentary of none other than Ben Stein. In his recent remarks on blacks in America, Stein said, “You would think, if you read the liberal mainstream media, that the main problem with race in America was poor innocent black people being set upon and mistreated by the police.” What Ben Stein is trying to say is that he does not think police brutality that results in the death of young, black, and unarmed males is an issue worth reporting. However, where Benghazi is concerned, Stein considers it a “frank, outright malfeasance” by the Obama administration. In the world according to Stein, governmental negligence resulting in the death of American citizens matters when those citizens are white. However, when blacks are killed by the direct actions of government actors on American soil, Stein considers the reporting of such events as evidence of left-wing media propaganda. This is unconscionable hypocrisy that explains why mainstream conservatives are incapable of conversing with self-respecting black Americans.

The “primary cause of problems” argument is just an attempt to silence black Americans who dare to point out the reprehensible injustice of police brutality, which operates as an appallingly toxic mixture of state violence and anti-blackness. The idea that problems given consideration in politics must always be the primary problems affecting citizens is nonsensical. It is not a standard to which mainstream conservatives themselves adhere. Rather, it is just an invented rule specifically for black Americans in order to frustrate black social criticism and deny the existence and seriousness of oppressive policing.

Mainstream conservatives have a unique opportunity to demonstrate their allegiance to true constitutional conservatism and stand up for black men whose constitutional rights are routinely ignored by morally bankrupt police officers. Mainstream conservatives sanctimoniously declare their allegiance to constitutional conservatism while sitting amongst themselves and sipping mimosas in plush conference halls. However, when it is time to put constitutional conservatism into practice vis-à-vis standing up for the constitutional rights of black males, many mainstream conservatives are unapologetically comfortable about being on the side of government tyranny.

http://www.hiphoprepublican.com/do-mainstream-conservatives-support-police-brutality/

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I have to question as to the timing of the announcement. Why wait until dark ? :gofig:

Maybe to allow shop keepers have a full days business, then board up and get the hell out or ready their 'home defense' procedures.

This is the first question that came to my mind. Why wait until dark ?

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To believe that police officers get up in the morning and sip a cup of coffee and think about how to oppress black people is ridiculous. It is exactly this type of propaganda that race baiters such as Sharpton and Jackson would have you believe though. Concerning white police offices "brutalizing" unarmed young black males being race motivated, would you give your opinion of the black police officer that shot the naked (obviously unarmed) white student at USA. Was it race motivated? The term "militarized police" is just the talking point of the day. People act as if your average Patrol Joe is jumping from his armoured patrol car with raid gear on traffic stops and calls for service when in actuality, the "militarized" equipment is mission specific.

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Going forward we have to figure this out on a strategic and national level. The death of Michael Brown was merely the impetus of an already brewing issue.

Do Mainstream Conservatives Support Police Brutality?

One of the principal talking points that is enduringly trotted out by the mainstream conservative movement is that police brutality is not the primary cause of black problems in America. We hear this talking point dutifully repeated by right-wing mouthpieces whenever a story of police brutality against a black male hits the news cycle. However, this talking point is an utterly meaningless straw man that solely exists for conservatives to avoid holding disreputable police officers accountable for their wanton displays of violence against black American citizens. The notion that a negative action has to be the primary cause of trouble in a community in order for it to be a serious issue worthy of being addressed is perfectly illogical.

Mainstream conservatives know that if they are forced to address police brutality as an issue, they are going to have to concede some points on stop-on-frisk, which artificially and dangerously elevates the number of encounters between black men and police officers—and undoubtedly heightens the likelihood of police brutality occurring. Curiously, mainstream conservatives who loquaciously preach about their devotion to small government also enthusiastically protect the big-government fraud that is stop-and-frisk—a policy that is as unconstitutional as it is inefficacious.

It is almost a vocation for many mainstream conservatives to pretend as though every instance of racism-induced violence is a figment of the hyper-stimulated imaginations of black Americans. This is especially true whenever it is a police officer accused of violent wrongdoing. When one believes that racism does not exist (except when one can conveniently accuse liberals of it), it becomes a chore to ensure that every race-related case is proven to be another “Tawana Brawley” playing out on the national stage. It is this kind of mindset that leads mainstream conservatives to respond with the inappropriately crass rejoinder, “Police brutality isn’t the primary problem blacks face!” when people are discussing the very real issue of police brutality and extrajudicial killing of black men in the streets of American cities.

It is remarkable that conservatives who tell black Americans not to focus on police brutality because it is not the primary problem for blacks in America are the same conservatives who defenestrate that logic while squeezing all of the political juice they can out of tragedies like the Benghazi attacks. No logical argument can be made for suggesting that Benghazi is the primary issue affecting Americans, but conservative Republicans in the House of Representatives are still taking votes on the topic, and mainstream conservatives on social media still have Benghazi ribbons and hashtags reminding fellow conservatives to “Never Forget!” More Americans are killed every year at the hands of militarized officers who engage in police brutality than were killed in that one tragic event at the Benghazi consulate in Libya. However, it is supposedly acceptable to have never-ending commentary about Benghazi, but black Americans should not speak about police brutality because it is not a “primary” concern. Where is the intellectual consistency?

One example of this glaring right-wing hypocrisy is found in the commentary of none other than Ben Stein. In his recent remarks on blacks in America, Stein said, “You would think, if you read the liberal mainstream media, that the main problem with race in America was poor innocent black people being set upon and mistreated by the police.” What Ben Stein is trying to say is that he does not think police brutality that results in the death of young, black, and unarmed males is an issue worth reporting. However, where Benghazi is concerned, Stein considers it a “frank, outright malfeasance” by the Obama administration. In the world according to Stein, governmental negligence resulting in the death of American citizens matters when those citizens are white. However, when blacks are killed by the direct actions of government actors on American soil, Stein considers the reporting of such events as evidence of left-wing media propaganda. This is unconscionable hypocrisy that explains why mainstream conservatives are incapable of conversing with self-respecting black Americans.

The “primary cause of problems” argument is just an attempt to silence black Americans who dare to point out the reprehensible injustice of police brutality, which operates as an appallingly toxic mixture of state violence and anti-blackness. The idea that problems given consideration in politics must always be the primary problems affecting citizens is nonsensical. It is not a standard to which mainstream conservatives themselves adhere. Rather, it is just an invented rule specifically for black Americans in order to frustrate black social criticism and deny the existence and seriousness of oppressive policing.

Mainstream conservatives have a unique opportunity to demonstrate their allegiance to true constitutional conservatism and stand up for black men whose constitutional rights are routinely ignored by morally bankrupt police officers. Mainstream conservatives sanctimoniously declare their allegiance to constitutional conservatism while sitting amongst themselves and sipping mimosas in plush conference halls. However, when it is time to put constitutional conservatism into practice vis-à-vis standing up for the constitutional rights of black males, many mainstream conservatives are unapologetically comfortable about being on the side of government tyranny.

http://www.hiphoprep...lice-brutality/

Very disappointing and troubling piece from the author.

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Going forward we have to figure this out on a strategic and national level. The death of Michael Brown was merely the impetus of an already brewing issue.

Do Mainstream Conservatives Support Police Brutality?

One of the principal talking points that is enduringly trotted out by the mainstream conservative movement is that police brutality is not the primary cause of black problems in America. We hear this talking point dutifully repeated by right-wing mouthpieces whenever a story of police brutality against a black male hits the news cycle. However, this talking point is an utterly meaningless straw man that solely exists for conservatives to avoid holding disreputable police officers accountable for their wanton displays of violence against black American citizens. The notion that a negative action has to be the primary cause of trouble in a community in order for it to be a serious issue worthy of being addressed is perfectly illogical.

Mainstream conservatives know that if they are forced to address police brutality as an issue, they are going to have to concede some points on stop-on-frisk, which artificially and dangerously elevates the number of encounters between black men and police officers—and undoubtedly heightens the likelihood of police brutality occurring. Curiously, mainstream conservatives who loquaciously preach about their devotion to small government also enthusiastically protect the big-government fraud that is stop-and-frisk—a policy that is as unconstitutional as it is inefficacious.

It is almost a vocation for many mainstream conservatives to pretend as though every instance of racism-induced violence is a figment of the hyper-stimulated imaginations of black Americans. This is especially true whenever it is a police officer accused of violent wrongdoing. When one believes that racism does not exist (except when one can conveniently accuse liberals of it), it becomes a chore to ensure that every race-related case is proven to be another “Tawana Brawley” playing out on the national stage. It is this kind of mindset that leads mainstream conservatives to respond with the inappropriately crass rejoinder, “Police brutality isn’t the primary problem blacks face!” when people are discussing the very real issue of police brutality and extrajudicial killing of black men in the streets of American cities.

It is remarkable that conservatives who tell black Americans not to focus on police brutality because it is not the primary problem for blacks in America are the same conservatives who defenestrate that logic while squeezing all of the political juice they can out of tragedies like the Benghazi attacks. No logical argument can be made for suggesting that Benghazi is the primary issue affecting Americans, but conservative Republicans in the House of Representatives are still taking votes on the topic, and mainstream conservatives on social media still have Benghazi ribbons and hashtags reminding fellow conservatives to “Never Forget!” More Americans are killed every year at the hands of militarized officers who engage in police brutality than were killed in that one tragic event at the Benghazi consulate in Libya. However, it is supposedly acceptable to have never-ending commentary about Benghazi, but black Americans should not speak about police brutality because it is not a “primary” concern. Where is the intellectual consistency?

One example of this glaring right-wing hypocrisy is found in the commentary of none other than Ben Stein. In his recent remarks on blacks in America, Stein said, “You would think, if you read the liberal mainstream media, that the main problem with race in America was poor innocent black people being set upon and mistreated by the police.” What Ben Stein is trying to say is that he does not think police brutality that results in the death of young, black, and unarmed males is an issue worth reporting. However, where Benghazi is concerned, Stein considers it a “frank, outright malfeasance” by the Obama administration. In the world according to Stein, governmental negligence resulting in the death of American citizens matters when those citizens are white. However, when blacks are killed by the direct actions of government actors on American soil, Stein considers the reporting of such events as evidence of left-wing media propaganda. This is unconscionable hypocrisy that explains why mainstream conservatives are incapable of conversing with self-respecting black Americans.

The “primary cause of problems” argument is just an attempt to silence black Americans who dare to point out the reprehensible injustice of police brutality, which operates as an appallingly toxic mixture of state violence and anti-blackness. The idea that problems given consideration in politics must always be the primary problems affecting citizens is nonsensical. It is not a standard to which mainstream conservatives themselves adhere. Rather, it is just an invented rule specifically for black Americans in order to frustrate black social criticism and deny the existence and seriousness of oppressive policing.

Mainstream conservatives have a unique opportunity to demonstrate their allegiance to true constitutional conservatism and stand up for black men whose constitutional rights are routinely ignored by morally bankrupt police officers. Mainstream conservatives sanctimoniously declare their allegiance to constitutional conservatism while sitting amongst themselves and sipping mimosas in plush conference halls. However, when it is time to put constitutional conservatism into practice vis-à-vis standing up for the constitutional rights of black males, many mainstream conservatives are unapologetically comfortable about being on the side of government tyranny.

http://www.hiphoprep...lice-brutality/

Very disappointing and troubling piece from the author.

not to mention it was a load of liberal propaganda. Stop and frisk reduced crime in NYC exponentially. It wont be long before the citizens in the City will be wishing it hadn't been disct'd.

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I have to question as to the timing of the announcement. Why wait until dark ? :gofig:/>

Maybe to allow shop keepers have a full days business, then board up and get the hell out or ready their 'home defense' procedures.

This is the first question that came to my mind. Why wait until dark ?

It lets the people who work in the St Louis area have time to get home. I suspect they could have gotten the results Friday afternoon, but they delayed it to protect the weekend business. School is also probably out this week.

I would have announced it at 2 am in the morning in 20 degree weather if possible.

It will be getting colder this week up there

http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/today/St%20Louis,MO,United%20States/we-city?weadegreetype=F&ocid=INSWEPL10

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I would hate to see this case push a national police force agenda. I still think this is a socioeconomics problem - no hope- no direction- that leads to what is going on in all inner cities, most just need a fuse to light the powder keg. We need to become One Nation Under God once more. Just my opinion not worth much I guess.

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Going forward we have to figure this out on a strategic and national level. The death of Michael Brown was merely the impetus of an already brewing issue.

Do Mainstream Conservatives Support Police Brutality?

One of the principal talking points that is enduringly trotted out by the mainstream conservative movement is that police brutality is not the primary cause of black problems in America. We hear this talking point dutifully repeated by right-wing mouthpieces whenever a story of police brutality against a black male hits the news cycle. However, this talking point is an utterly meaningless straw man that solely exists for conservatives to avoid holding disreputable police officers accountable for their wanton displays of violence against black American citizens. The notion that a negative action has to be the primary cause of trouble in a community in order for it to be a serious issue worthy of being addressed is perfectly illogical.

Mainstream conservatives know that if they are forced to address police brutality as an issue, they are going to have to concede some points on stop-on-frisk, which artificially and dangerously elevates the number of encounters between black men and police officers—and undoubtedly heightens the likelihood of police brutality occurring. Curiously, mainstream conservatives who loquaciously preach about their devotion to small government also enthusiastically protect the big-government fraud that is stop-and-frisk—a policy that is as unconstitutional as it is inefficacious.

It is almost a vocation for many mainstream conservatives to pretend as though every instance of racism-induced violence is a figment of the hyper-stimulated imaginations of black Americans. This is especially true whenever it is a police officer accused of violent wrongdoing. When one believes that racism does not exist (except when one can conveniently accuse liberals of it), it becomes a chore to ensure that every race-related case is proven to be another “Tawana Brawley” playing out on the national stage. It is this kind of mindset that leads mainstream conservatives to respond with the inappropriately crass rejoinder, “Police brutality isn’t the primary problem blacks face!” when people are discussing the very real issue of police brutality and extrajudicial killing of black men in the streets of American cities.

It is remarkable that conservatives who tell black Americans not to focus on police brutality because it is not the primary problem for blacks in America are the same conservatives who defenestrate that logic while squeezing all of the political juice they can out of tragedies like the Benghazi attacks. No logical argument can be made for suggesting that Benghazi is the primary issue affecting Americans, but conservative Republicans in the House of Representatives are still taking votes on the topic, and mainstream conservatives on social media still have Benghazi ribbons and hashtags reminding fellow conservatives to “Never Forget!” More Americans are killed every year at the hands of militarized officers who engage in police brutality than were killed in that one tragic event at the Benghazi consulate in Libya. However, it is supposedly acceptable to have never-ending commentary about Benghazi, but black Americans should not speak about police brutality because it is not a “primary” concern. Where is the intellectual consistency?

One example of this glaring right-wing hypocrisy is found in the commentary of none other than Ben Stein. In his recent remarks on blacks in America, Stein said, “You would think, if you read the liberal mainstream media, that the main problem with race in America was poor innocent black people being set upon and mistreated by the police.” What Ben Stein is trying to say is that he does not think police brutality that results in the death of young, black, and unarmed males is an issue worth reporting. However, where Benghazi is concerned, Stein considers it a “frank, outright malfeasance” by the Obama administration. In the world according to Stein, governmental negligence resulting in the death of American citizens matters when those citizens are white. However, when blacks are killed by the direct actions of government actors on American soil, Stein considers the reporting of such events as evidence of left-wing media propaganda. This is unconscionable hypocrisy that explains why mainstream conservatives are incapable of conversing with self-respecting black Americans.

The “primary cause of problems” argument is just an attempt to silence black Americans who dare to point out the reprehensible injustice of police brutality, which operates as an appallingly toxic mixture of state violence and anti-blackness. The idea that problems given consideration in politics must always be the primary problems affecting citizens is nonsensical. It is not a standard to which mainstream conservatives themselves adhere. Rather, it is just an invented rule specifically for black Americans in order to frustrate black social criticism and deny the existence and seriousness of oppressive policing.

Mainstream conservatives have a unique opportunity to demonstrate their allegiance to true constitutional conservatism and stand up for black men whose constitutional rights are routinely ignored by morally bankrupt police officers. Mainstream conservatives sanctimoniously declare their allegiance to constitutional conservatism while sitting amongst themselves and sipping mimosas in plush conference halls. However, when it is time to put constitutional conservatism into practice vis-à-vis standing up for the constitutional rights of black males, many mainstream conservatives are unapologetically comfortable about being on the side of government tyranny.

http://www.hiphoprepublican.com/do-mainstream-conservatives-support-police-brutality/

I think conservatives want law and order, not police brutality. I hear the arguments that if the police just stopped patrolling black neighborhoods to prevent gang and drug activity, these incidents will stop. Which could be true, but the black on black crime would greatly increase and businesses will leave. If the police officer had been black, this would have been a local story.

Blacks are 70% of the population in ferguson. They have the power to elect a black major and city council and hired a black police chief. They have not done that.

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I can only assume that the verdict will be to indict the officer. There is NO WAY that they would announce that the officer will not be indicted at 8pm. The only reason to announce that they would not indict the officer at 8pm is to try to make the protests as bad as possible. I am very cynical, but even I don't think that the people in charge have that little regard for human life.

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I've not seen all the evidence and pretty sure no one here has either. My hope is for justice.

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I was thinking about this earlier. Maybe they just string this out till everyone is just too tired to care? Not saying it will happen, but to defuse the situation, maybe they wear out the protesters?

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I would have waited until Wednesday night. Too many Thanksgiving plans to bother with protests.

That kind of makes sense, but maybe they thought it would leave a long weekend to protest afterwards?
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No billed. Those who heard ALL the evidence have spoken.

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Why are some unable to digest the fact that Michael Brown, after attacking a store clerk and taking his merchandise, then attacking a police officer, attempted to take his weapon, and was therefore shot dead?

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