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It's one thing for individual Christians to offer charity and give of their own to help the poor.

It's entirely different for a government to use other people's money to help the poor.

And that's what Leftists do. They take from the people then spend other folk's money and then claim they are doing " good works ", as they feel so smug and self righteous.

I'd say those that Maher is poking fun of have given more of their own $ to charity than he ever will. They have, in their own lives, given FAR more than do most Leftist proggies. And that's what Jesus meant. Make it personal. Don't make it govt policy.

Funny how Maher, an Atheist, takes pot shots at Ayn Rand, another atheist.

Maher, a non believing Jew, distorts Jesus's message.

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It's one thing for individual Christians to offer charity and give of their own to help the poor.

It's entirely different for a government to use other people's money to help the poor.

And that's what Leftists do. They take from the people then spend other folk's money and then claim they are doing " good works ", as they feel so smug and self righteous.

I'd say those that Maher is poking fun of have given more of their own $ to charity than he ever will. They have, in their own lives, given FAR more than do most Leftist proggies. And that's what Jesus meant. Make it personal. Don't make it govt policy.

Funny how Maher, an Atheist, takes pot shots at Ayn Rand, another atheist.

Maher, a non believing Jew, distorts Jesus's message.

Do you have a chapter and verse for this, brother Raptor?

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It's one thing for individual Christians to offer charity and give of their own to help the poor.

It's entirely different for a government to use other people's money to help the poor.

And that's what Leftists do. They take from the people then spend other folk's money and then claim they are doing " good works ", as they feel so smug and self righteous.

I'd say those that Maher is poking fun of have given more of their own $ to charity than he ever will. They have, in their own lives, given FAR more than do most Leftist proggies. And that's what Jesus meant. Make it personal. Don't make it govt policy.

Funny how Maher, an Atheist, takes pot shots at Ayn Rand, another atheist.

Maher, a non believing Jew, distorts Jesus's message.

Do you have a chapter and verse for this, brother Raptor?

Maher was raised Catholic with an Jewish Mom.

http://hollowverse.com/bill-maher/

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Well, it's said the mother is what's important ... But thanks for the 411. Not sure it changes much though. Maher mocks " supply side " JC, but claiming He was a socialist is also nonsense.

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Well, it's said the mother is what's important ... But thanks for the 411. Not sure it changes much though. Maher mocks " supply side " JC, but claiming He was a socialist is also nonsense.

He never made that claim. He did not USE Christ or distort His message for political purposes. He criticized people who do.

Perhaps you should have limited your response to, "I was wrong,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,again".

Perhaps the disingenuous, non-believing hypocrite who would USE Christ, and His message, for his disingenuous political purposes is,,,,,,,you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,again.

You should refrain from questioning anyone's honesty. You cannot even be honest with yourself. It is apparent. It is obvious.

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Well, it's said the mother is what's important ... But thanks for the 411. Not sure it changes much though. Maher mocks " supply side " JC, but claiming He was a socialist is also nonsense.

He never made that claim. He did not USE Christ or distort His message for political purposes. He criticized people who do.

Perhaps you should have limited your response to, "I was wrong,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,again".

Perhaps the disingenuous, non-believing hypocrite who would USE Christ, and His message, for his disingenuous political purposes is,,,,,,,you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,again.

You should refrain from questioning anyone's honesty. You cannot even be honest with yourself. It is apparent. It is obvious.

Not really, and I'm not wrong. You use words which you simply do not understand. Hypocrite ? Not even a little.

Maher is a leftist. Probably above all else. He'll take shots at conservative GOP types simply because it gives him material to use and there by gain viewers. And dupes, like you, who agree w/ him , on occasion. I don't know if Maher believes 1/2 the stuff he says, like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert.

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Well, it's said the mother is what's important ... But thanks for the 411. Not sure it changes much though. Maher mocks " supply side " JC, but claiming He was a socialist is also nonsense.

He never made that claim. He did not USE Christ or distort His message for political purposes. He criticized people who do.

Perhaps you should have limited your response to, "I was wrong,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,again".

Perhaps the disingenuous, non-believing hypocrite who would USE Christ, and His message, for his disingenuous political purposes is,,,,,,,you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,again.

You should refrain from questioning anyone's honesty. You cannot even be honest with yourself. It is apparent. It is obvious.

Not really, and I'm not wrong. You use words which you simply do not understand. Hypocrite ? Not even a little.

Maher is a leftist. Probably above all else. He'll take shots at conservative GOP types simply because it gives him material to use and there by gain viewers. And dupes, like you, who agree w/ him , on occasion. I don't know if Maher believes 1/2 the stuff he says, like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert.

Again, totally disingenuous. You are attempting, wittingly or unwittingly, a common tactic of ideologues and partisan fools. You are attempting to divert attention away from the issue at hand by, attempting to define, and demonize, someone by your own prejudices.

Do not attempt such foolishness with me, please.

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You don't even know what you're saying, or trying to say.

And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,again, you are attempting to create a narrative rather than sincerely, specifically address an issue.

You should take back your abilities to reason, think critically, think for yourself.

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You don't even know what you're saying, or trying to say.

And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,again, you are attempting to create a narrative rather than sincerely, specifically address an issue.

You should take back your abilities to reason, think critically, think for yourself.

And yet more gibberish.

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It's shameful when people representing both parties use Jesus or ANY other religion for political gain. It's also shameful for politicians to use tragedy for political gain but oh well.......

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well, demagoguery is what the Left does, better than anyone. Crazy Uncle Joe is calling the GOP candidates " homophobes ". Sounds like he's getting ready to toss his hat into the ring ?

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I won't speak for others' beliefs.

My belief is that Jesus said help the poor. I think that includes electing leaders who will help the poor and fostering a government that will help the poor. I don't think he meant "Help the poor, but only in these limited, restricted ways." And as voting, taxpaying citizen in a democracy, I'm a share holder and part owner of every dollar the government has, regardless of source, so giving government money to the poor IS giving them MY money.

I don't know how anyone can defend greed as being a Christian value, or claim to be a Christian while endorsing greed, but that is their prerogative and their soul in the balance and I don't presume to answer for them.

As for His "Give unto Caeser..." line:

He was asked if it was right to pay taxes to Rome. He pointed out that Rome issued the currency that most used in everyday commerce (and implied, in my opinion, that they also enjoyed other benefits of Roman rule: roads, law enforcement, open trade, protection from pirates, etc. even if they had no use for Roman baths or theaters), so why shouldn't they pay for what Rome provided. He also knew that the Pharisees were trying to trap him with his own words regarding taxes, and gave an answer sufficiently broad, yet true, to sidestep their ploy. Treatment of the poor and/or socialism or charity was not a factor in that answer to a direct question.

It's also worthwhile to remember that in Jerusalem at the time, although under Roman occupation, local government was a theocracy run by the Temple authorities and so there was no distinction between "government" authority and religious authority: Jews paid temple taxes that were used, among other things, for charity. Those taxes were not entirely "voluntary", but were mandatory if you were Jewish: They weren't called "donations", they were called "taxes"!

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well, demagoguery is what the Left does, better than anyone. Crazy Uncle Joe is calling the GOP candidates " homophobes ". Sounds like he's getting ready to toss his hat into the ring ?

Donald Trump seems like the biggest demagogue in the race at the moment...didn't know he was "Leftist".
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I won't speak for others' beliefs.

My belief is that Jesus said help the poor. I think that includes electing leaders who will help the poor and fostering a government that will help the poor. I don't think he meant "Help the poor, but only in these limited, restricted ways." And as voting, taxpaying citizen in a democracy, I'm a share holder and part owner of every dollar the government has, regardless of source, so giving government money to the poor IS giving them MY money.

I don't know how anyone can defend greed as being a Christian value, or claim to be a Christian while endorsing greed, but that is their prerogative and their soul in the balance and I don't presume to answer for them.

I agree with you that Jesus said to help the poor. I agree that Christians should try to elect people with Christian values such as helping the poor. I believe that Jesus told Christians to feed the poor for the Christians' sakes, not for the sake of the poor. Jesus can eliminate poverty anytime He/She/It chooses. I think that electing a government that will force citizens to pay more to feed the poor has NOTHING to do with Christianity. I further believe that the attitude that "because I am paying taxes which go to feed the poor, then I am relieved of my Christian obligation of feeding the poor" would be distorting Jesus' command and would likely be because I am worshipping my money more than my Savior.
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IMO, Christians should follow Christ. Christians should never attempt to qualify, amend, or append any ideology to Christ's teaching, or Christ in their hearts.

I believe that Christ made His message very simple for a reason. I believe that any time that message is made complicated or divisive, there is ultimately an ulterior, worldly motive at work.

If your practice of Christianity becomes ideological, profitable, denominational, political, are you following Christ or, are you furthering some other cause? I think we should be very careful answering that question. If there is an ultimate sin, a sin greater than other sin, it would be to carelessly, or intentionally, distort the message of Christ.

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IMO, Christians should follow Christ. Christians should never attempt to qualify, amend, or append any ideology to Christ's teaching, or Christ in their hearts.

I believe that Christ made His message very simple for a reason. I believe that any time that message is made complicated or divisive, there is ultimately an ulterior, worldly motive at work.

If your practice of Christianity becomes ideological, profitable, denominational, political, are you following Christ or, are you furthering some other cause? I think we should be very careful answering that question. If there is an ultimate sin, a sin greater than other sin, it would be to carelessly, or intentionally, distort the message of Christ.

Well said.
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IMO, Christians should follow Christ. Christians should never attempt to qualify, amend, or append any ideology to Christ's teaching, or Christ in their hearts.

I believe that Christ made His message very simple for a reason. I believe that any time that message is made complicated or divisive, there is ultimately an ulterior, worldly motive at work.

If your practice of Christianity becomes ideological, profitable, denominational, political, are you following Christ or, are you furthering some other cause? I think we should be very careful answering that question. If there is an ultimate sin, a sin greater than other sin, it would be to carelessly, or intentionally, distort the message of Christ.

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