JFDTiger80 790 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Open for discussion. I do not get it. Nice school, decent facilities; but, how are they killing it on the recruiting front? They have not won a conference championship, or been a national powerhouse (unless you include last year) in decades. They currently have a very highly rated class again and it could get better. They have the #1 QB committed as well. JMO, but it is hard to believe that they out recruit us often now. They need to go back to being the old, Ole Miss we used to love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 They must some great recruiters on their staff. I know Hugh is a real good recruiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,362 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Some say they have questionable recruiting practices. But until they are found guilty of anything, just have to believe their recruiters are very good at their job. Oxford is a neat little college town and the game day atmosphere is a big selling point. Nice looking ladies too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 A charismatic coach selling a high octane offense can work wonders. Also, they've been good at letting their stars be stars on both sides of the ball. Tunsil, Treadwell, Nkemdiche and even Kelly this season have all more than panned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Yeah, there is definitely something going on that is shady. Freeze isn't that charismatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,096 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Girls girls girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never2Yield 1,005 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Girls girls girls Yep! Those Mississippi women are beautiful, I married one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 decent facilities At least you call them decent. I had an argument a few years ago with some folks comparing Auburn and Ole Miss' facilities. At the time (before the completion of Auburn's new indoor facility) Ole Miss' were arguably better, emphasis on arguably. Let's not do that again! That being said, there are several schools with better facilities than Ole Miss in the SEC, but the truth is that Ole Miss' facilities are outstanding in relation to the rest of the country, as are most SEC schools. I don't think facilities are as big a differentiating point within our conference as it is in comparison to some schools from other conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,039 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Once you get the recruits and they have success at your school and get noticed by the NFL it's not hard to recruit at all. There's no telling what our recruiting would look like this year if we didn't have a melt down last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Once you get the recruits and they have success at your school and get noticed by the NFL it's not hard to recruit at all. I would think that the most rookies playing in the league, this year, should be a pretty easy sell, then. Other schools may get more people drafted, but we get them ready to actually play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle-1 3,821 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 It,s not just Ole Miss, we are being out recruited by every school in our surrounding area. Bama, GA, FSU, both Miss.schools, Clemson, and I fear with their success this season that we will have trouble competing with Florida for recruits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombigbeetiger 223 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Open for discussion. I do not get it. Nice school, decent facilities; but, how are they killing it on the recruiting front? They have not won a conference championship, or been a national powerhouse (unless you include last year) in decades. They currently have a very highly rated class again and it could get better. They have the #1 QB committed as well. JMO, but it is hard to believe that they out recruit us often now. They need to go back to being the old, Ole Miss we used to love. there is a good reason for the ncaa being on their campus of late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Great article on Robert Nkemdiche and his impact on Ole Miss' recruiting: http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/14164044/robert-nkemdic-impact-ole-miss-rebels-felt-long-leaves Robert Nkemdiche wants to leave a legacy at Ole Miss, but he's not obsessing over it. The Egg Bowl looms Saturday at Mississippi State. It's an opportunity for the Rebels to finish a season of extremes on a solid note. Unless Nkemdiche returns to school in 2016, which is considered an extremely slim possibility because of his prodigious pro potential, his legacy likely won't include an SEC championship or a national title. The defensive lineman's on-field accomplishments are worth noting -- first-team All-SEC in 2014, second-team All-America, 17.5 tackles for loss, 33 starts in 34 games -- and he has had moments of breathtaking brilliance, like his Sept. 19 performance against Alabama that earned him national defensive player of the week honors. He anchored a defense that last fall propelled Ole Miss to its highest national ranking (3) since 1964. He's also moonlighted on offense, scoring three touchdowns this season. It is likelier that Nkemdiche's impact on the program's future ends up eclipsing what he'll ever do in a Rebels uniform. The significance of Nkemdiche's decision as the nation's consensus No. 1 recruit to "do something special, out of the ordinary" continues to this day at Ole Miss. "Him being the No. 1 guy, and that he wasn't scared to come in and start something new and fresh, and help lead the way to hopefully change the face of the program, it's been tremendous," said Barney Farrar, Ole Miss' assistant athletic director for high school and junior college relations. "Kids follow these recruiting services. They see these [recruits] going to the things at Oregon, they see all the Rivals camps. They keep up with it. "Robert being No. 1, I can't say how much good it's done to help us get other guys to be interested." It's rare for a date outside the football season calendar to secure a place in program lore, but Feb. 6, 2013, will always be celebrated at Ole Miss. Then considered a bonsai in a forest of sequoias (SECquoias?), Ole Miss experienced a historic growth spurt on national signing day. Coach Hugh Freeze, who had just completed his first season, signed a class ranked fifth by ESPN and in the Top 10 by every other recruiting service. Ole Miss secured several prize recruits that day -- offensive lineman Laremy Tunsil, wide receiver Laquon Treadwell and safety Tony Conner, among them -- but none more significant than a defensive end from Loganville, Georgia. Nkemdiche was a kid in a grown man's body with grown man's line skills. He could have gone anywhere, but he picked Ole Miss, a team that last won the SEC in 1963 and had just one 10-win season since 1971. "When you're able to sign kids that are that highly sought after and then to play at a high level for the three years that he's been here, there's no question that it gives us some validity in other homes with recruits who are similar in nature," Freeze said. "I don't know that I can overstate the gratitude I have, or the impact that people like he, Laremy, Laquon, choosing to believe that we can do something anew here, fresh, make this a new normal, recruiting at a high level." Nkemdiche's was among the first names Chris Kiffin heard after joining Ole Miss' staff as defensive line coach and recruiting coordinator for defense in December 2011. The coaches made Nkemdiche their top priority after they wrapped up the 2012 class. It wouldn't be easy process for a program coming off of a 2-10 season to beat the SEC blue bloods and others like Clemson. Ole Miss had a chance, mainly because Nkemdiche's older brother, Denzel, was a freshman linebacker for the Rebels. Denzel, now a senior, remains under medical supervision after being hospitalized last week. He's expected to miss the Egg Bowl. "Without Denzel, where the Ole Miss football program was, I don't think anybody thought it'd be realistic that we could be in it with Robert," Kiffin said. "We knew if we could sign him what a big deal it would be for us for the future in recruiting, to draw more big names." During the next year, Kiffin would get the same question from other prospects: "Coach, are you going to be able to get Robert Nkemdiche?" He would always respond optimistically, but recruiting includes no guarantees. Denzel Nkemdiche boosted the coaches' confidence, repeatedly saying he couldn't envision his brother playing anywhere else but Ole Miss. There were doubts when Robert Nkemdiche verbally committed to Clemson in June 2012 -- "We didn't understand it, didn't know why," Kiffin said -- but his brother kept saying things would work out. Robert Nkemdiche decommitted from Clemson in November 2012. His high school coach, Mickey Conn, started seeing the effects of the high-profile process take a toll. "Everybody wanted a piece of Robert," Conn said. "Making an early commitment and then backing out was really hard on him." Ole Miss had the inside track, thanks to Denzel Nkemdiche and the boys' mother, Beverly, who opposed the Clemson decision. Beverly visited only one school during the process, Ole Miss, where she voiced her desire for her sons to play together. Shreds of doubt lingered. Robert Nkemdiche visited LSU the weekend before signing day. "It was either, 'This dude's going to going to Ole Miss and is there a reason why he went there? Or is he going to go to Alabama and be another No. 1 recruit,'" Nkemdiche said. "I feel like my story is broader than football. That had a lot to do with my decision because I wanted to build a legacy. I wanted to be something special, out of the ordinary. "That was a moment where I could take a step forward with people understanding in life there's more than one way to do things." Relief finally came to the Ole Miss coaches on Feb. 5, the day before signing day. Denzel Nkemdiche sent Kiffin a text-message informing him Robert Nkemdiche had bought red-and-blue suspenders -- Ole Miss colors -- for the announcement. The next morning, it became official. "It was probably one of the happier moments in Ole Miss football [history]," Farrar said. "People had followed the program for so many years, and it'd been so hard to get a top guy." Ole Miss landed several top guys that Wednesday: four Top 25 prospects and 10 players rated in the ESPN 300. Alabama, LSU, Florida and Ohio State had their standard recruiting hauls, but Ole Miss won the day. "It really made us a national name, a national brand," Kiffin said. "That whole day is emotions, caught up in the whole class. But for ESPN to start off with Robert's announcement, everyone remembers that celebration in the room. It all kicked off with Robert. "It obviously sent us in the right direction." Farrar credits Nkemdiche and others for a spike in NFL scouts to Ole Miss this season, as several general managers, assistant GMs and scouting directors have visited Oxford. Recruits who visit always want to meet Nkemdiche, who accommodates them. Ole Miss has followed the 2013 haul with two top 20 recruiting classes. Its 2016 class, which includes 16 commits, including another five-star defensive lineman in Benito Jones, is No. 6 according to ESPN Recruiting. "We'll always have to work hard, but your name will be out there because of some of the things he pioneered for us," Farrar said. "People like to meet him when they come through. It probably fits in their head, 'If the No. 1 guy can come, so can I.' "He's left a mark." Nkemdiche said he and his teammates in the 2013 class didn't fully realize their impact at the time, but now "it's very clear." He takes pride in a decision that deviated from the standard script for top recruits. He hopes others realize, "It's not scary to take a different route. You don't always have to go to Alabama or LSU." "It's not your cliché football player, I'm not your stereotype," he said. "I want a different light. It's not for the ego, it's not for anything. It's just to show people that it's OK to be yourself. You don't have to do things a certain way. You don't have to be a robot." Freeze is convinced it takes four, five or six elite recruiting cycles to truly elevate a program like Ole Miss. The Rebels aren't quite there, but they have consecutive wins against Alabama and Nkemdiche's class is 2-1 against LSU. The wait for a championship continues at Ole Miss, but thanks to Nkemdiche and others, it might not be much longer. "To have kids like him," Freeze said, "certainly it validates in the minds of other recruits that it can be done." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Aside from Ole Miss doing what everyone else is doing in the SEC, (including Auburn ), their recruiting success is due to: 1) Hugh Freeze - I don't know of many better recruiting head coaches. He's personable, passionate, he cares about his players, and his guys play with an edge. What he has done with Chad Kelly really is remarkable. That kid has changed his life around - and I think its due to Hugh Freeze. 2) Landing Denzel Nkemdiche and then Robert Nkemdiche. Robert was not only the number one recruit in the country, but they are both extremely popular guys. They aren't role models, in fact they are both very eccentric, but nonetheless, they are the kinds of personalities that other guys want to be around. Not to mention, their parents are both extremely successful Nigerian immigrants. Their father is a cardiologist, for those who think Ole Miss was paying for them . As the above article states, RK was the first piece toward bringing in guys like Tunsil and Treadwell. Now Ole Miss is a brand kids are familiar with nationwide. 3) Oxford, to the surprise of many, is a fantastic college town. Beautiful campus, co-eds and nightlife galore. 4) Ole Miss' facilities are first rate. I don't know where they rank in the SEC, because most schools now have excellent facilities, but whatever difference there is between Ole Miss and Auburn/Alabama/Florida/LSU, I doubt its big enough to change a player's mind. 5) Ole Miss isn't afraid to play freshman. I don't think they will ever recruit to the same level as Alabama or LSU, and probably not Auburn or Georgia, but I do think Ole Miss will continue to get a handful of blue-chip recruits every year and end with respectable classes. Because of that, those guys are going to play early. 6) Ole Miss is about to see a lot more players entering the NFL. 7) Ole Miss is winning, and winning against top tier competition. 8) 16 year old kids don't remember when Ole Miss was pitiful. While most here associate Ole Miss with the bottom of the barrel, these kids now associate Ole Miss with being a good football program. This is something that I think most people have a hard time with. Ole Miss is a better program now than most people ever thought they could be. Not only that, but as long as Hugh Freeze is there, they are going to continue to be competitive in recruiting and in football. They have a positive national brand, despite what many in our conference may think. 9) Ole Miss is willing to spend the money to compete with bigger programs. Ross Bjork has galvanized the fan base. He is raising a ton of support right now. That trend is going to continue. New basketball arena, new additions to football stadium. Steady growth. All that being said, they may never be a top 4 program in the SECW. They are a long way off from that, and they may never get there. However, they are doing a better job with what they have than a lot of much more established programs. At this point, it shouldn't be surprising when top recruits are looking at Ole Miss. It makes sense. Its not a conspiracy. Ole Miss doesn't have to be cheating. They are a quality program, and that doesn't appear to be changing any time soon. And for the record, I doubt that Ole Miss will consistently "out-recruit" Auburn, or many of the other top tier SEC programs. There may be some more years like 2011, but most years those teams will end up higher than Ole Miss. Still, like I said Ole Miss will win some battles for big-time players, just not at the rate that other schools do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc4aday 1,887 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 All of this love for OM is disturbing folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman 305 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Once you get the recruits and they have success at your school and get noticed by the NFL it's not hard to recruit at all. I would think that the most rookies playing in the league, this year, should be a pretty easy sell, then. Other schools may get more people drafted, but we get them ready to actually play. But 90% of ours are free agents who signed for peanuts compared to top rounders who sign for millions of $$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Once you get the recruits and they have success at your school and get noticed by the NFL it's not hard to recruit at all. I would think that the most rookies playing in the league, this year, should be a pretty easy sell, then. Other schools may get more people drafted, but we get them ready to actually play. But 90% of ours are free agents who signed for peanuts compared to top rounders who sign for millions of $$$$. True, that means that they have to be able to do the math to understand that a 10 year career at a lower salary actually trumps a 1-3 year career with a big up-front payout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 All of this love for OM is disturbing folks! It's not a matter of "love"...it's about seeing the world as it is....and not as you would like to see it. It's kind of childish IMO to think that every school that excels over AU in some capacity must be cheating. Frankly it's get's tiresome seeing that stuff day after day as justification for success at other SEC schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUApostle 7,648 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Does today's breaking story on the NCAA's notice of allegations have any bearing on their '16 recruiting class? Is it too late for prospects to bail and are their any that we're currently a runner-up for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaitopher 807 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Does today's breaking story on the NCAA's notice of allegations have any bearing on their '16 recruiting class? Is it too late for prospects to bail and are their any that we're currently a runner-up for? My guess, is too late. I wouldn't be shocked if a couple parted ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,062 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Does today's breaking story on the NCAA's notice of allegations have any bearing on their '16 recruiting class? Is it too late for prospects to bail and are their any that we're currently a runner-up for? Kids already enrolled have to stick. We were in the top 3 for Tre Nixon so it theoretically could affect him but we'd have to get him here for an OV right now if he plans on signing on NSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFDTiger80 790 Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 OK, so the NCAA has formally notified Ole Miss today of 30 or so football violations. I wonder how many are on the recruiting front. This will be very interesting to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnNTexas 7,128 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 The one I want is Little. I have watched him play in Allen over last few years. He is the stud of the O-Line class this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaitopher 807 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 The one I want is Little. I have watched him play in Allen over last few years. He is the stud of the O-Line class this year. FWIW, he did officially visit us. But I am worried that if he does somehow decommitt, he would commit to Bama. I remember Bama being a close second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I doubt it will hurt their 2016 class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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