Texan4Auburn 1,626 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Unknown number of casualties, several officers wounded. Shooters is making a stand in the Planned Parenthood building and situation is contained there. Using a long gun and took several other items into the building that are suspect and possibly improvised devices. They are not in voice contact with the individual as of 4:11 mnt time. Choose whichever news source you wish. Apparently there are still others inside the building that the police are trying to get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,362 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Local NPR reporting that the shooter is in custody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mikey 16,565 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Wow! That's almost 1/10 as many people as drown in an average year. 1/10. Shall we close all swimming pools, public and private? "From 2005-2009, there were an average of 3,533 fatal unintentional drownings (non-boating related) annually in the United States. " http://www.cdc.gov/H...-factsheet.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Good, good. Close your eyes and deny the data. Shove another turkey leg in your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatBoCamRob 30 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Good, good. Close your eyes and deny the data. Shove another turkey leg in your mouth. Wait, it's 42 mass shootings? I thought it was 350? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Good, good. Close your eyes and deny the data. Shove another turkey leg in your mouth. Wait, it's 42 mass shootings? I thought it was 350? Different criteria between the graphs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,826 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 American terrorism. Not much outrage from the folks that generally weigh in so strongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,122 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 American terrorism. Not much outrage from the folks that generally weigh in so strongly. Yeah genius, because there is no organized global threat or crusade. These are local , isolated and completely unrelated acts. Unlike militant Islam. Seriously, what is the mental defect with you and others like you who want to whitewash what happens under the name of Allah, but then amp up magnify rare instances like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,826 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 American terrorism. Not much outrage from the folks that generally weigh in so strongly. Yeah genius, because there is no organized global threat or crusade. These are local , isolated and completely unrelated acts. Unlike militant Islam. Seriously, what is the mental defect with you and others like you who want to whitewash what happens under the name of Allah, but then amp up magnify rare instances like this? I haven't whitewashed anything. Please take your meds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,122 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Yes you have & it's a great discredit to the 1000's murdered & tortured from violent jihad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 American terrorism. Not much outrage from the folks that generally weigh in so strongly. Yeah genius, because there is no organized global threat or crusade. These are local , isolated and completely unrelated acts. Unlike militant Islam. Seriously, what is the mental defect with you and others like you who want to whitewash what happens under the name of Allah, but then amp up magnify rare instances like this? see post #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,122 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 see post #3 And you continue to not get it. 351 shootings, 351 different stories. 351 different motives. Unlike violent jihad, whether it's JV team, al-Qaeda, Boko Harem, Hezbollah, Hamas, Abu Sayyaf... they're all killin' for allah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,565 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 American terrorism. Not much outrage from the folks that generally weigh in so strongly. Yeah genius, because there is no organized global threat or crusade. These are local , isolated and completely unrelated acts. Unlike militant Islam. Seriously, what is the mental defect with you and others like you who want to whitewash what happens under the name of Allah, but then amp up magnify rare instances like this? see post #3 Which says 351, post #5 says 42. "Different criteria"? By a factor of roughly 8? You should have picked your chart and stuck with it. Even accepting the (doubtful) number of 351, that's not very many individual whackos in a nation of millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 see post #3 And you continue to not get it. 351 shootings, 351 different stories. 351 different motives. Unlike violent jihad, whether it's JV team, al-Qaeda, Boko Harem, Hezbollah, Hamas, Abu Sayyaf... they're all killin' for allah. You said this was a rare instance. It's not so now you go on you raptor rant. I bet this guy was killing for his god too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 American terrorism. Not much outrage from the folks that generally weigh in so strongly. Yeah genius, because there is no organized global threat or crusade. These are local , isolated and completely unrelated acts. Unlike militant Islam. Seriously, what is the mental defect with you and others like you who want to whitewash what happens under the name of Allah, but then amp up magnify rare instances like this? see post #3 Which says 351, post #5 says 42. "Different criteria"? By a factor of roughly 8? You should have picked your chart and stuck with it. Even accepting the (doubtful) number of 351, that's not very many individual whackos in a nation of millions. Mass shootings in the US are on the rise. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,122 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 ]You said this was a rare instance. It's not so now you go on you raptor rant. I bet this guy was killing for his god too... Yes, it's extremely rare, if you want to only include those who shoot / blow up abortion clinics, as a means of stopping the snuffing out of innocent life. All those other drive - bys and random school / work place shootings ? Have ZERO connection to what his psycho did. We don't even know his motives, as of yet, and still you want to rush in and lump him in w/ the rest on your list. Ft Hood wasn't " work place violence ", despite what your dear leader might want to claim. Major Hasan killed for Mohammed. Just like his JV team buddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 ]You said this was a rare instance. It's not so now you go on you raptor rant. I bet this guy was killing for his god too... Yes, it's extremely rare, if you want to only include those who shoot / blow up abortion clinics, as a means of stopping the snuffing out of innocent life. All those other drive - bys and random school / work place shootings ? Have ZERO connection to what his psycho did. We don't even know his motives, as of yet, and still you want to rush in and lump him in w/ the rest on your list. Ft Hood wasn't " work place violence ", despite what your dear leader might want to claim. Major Hasan killed for Mohammed. Just like his JV team buddies. Nice rant...I bet he was an avid watcher of MSNBC also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,122 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Nice rant...I bet he was an avid watcher of MSNBC also... Translation - " I have nothing to counter, so I'll just call valid points a " rant " and then toss in some nonsensical side comment about what news channel this guy watched. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Nice rant...I bet he was an avid watcher of MSNBC also... Translation - " I have nothing to counter, so I'll just call valid points a " rant " and then toss in some nonsensical side comment about what news channel this guy watched. " I've learned not to counter your rants because you'll just pick up the goal post and move it.My point is simply mass shootings in the US are on the rise. That's the terrorism threat we face. That's terrorism in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,122 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 My point is simply mass shootings in the US are on the rise. That's the terrorism threat we face. That's terrorism in America. It's not. There is no unifying , organized force at work here. It's terrifying, but it does not fit the definition of what is " terrorism". Terrorism NOUN the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims As I stated before, there is no connection between all of these incidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 There is no one standard definition of terrorism. FBI Terrorism is the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. Sounds like the Colorado planned parenthood shooter to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,122 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 ... in furtherance of political or social objectives. That right there debunks your claim that the hundreds of shooting incidents have any connection to each other, thus making them anywhere on par w/ militant Islamic terrorism. The lone act by 1 unaffiliated shooter, whose motives are yet to be determined , should not be confused w/ the broader fight against " terrorism " as it's been reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU_Tiger_88 417 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 There is no one standard definition of terrorism. FBI Terrorism is the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. Sounds like the Colorado planned parenthood shooter to me. If you want to take any definition of terrorism then you cannot equate the charts you put up as terrorist acts as a lot of them were crime related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 There is no one standard definition of terrorism. FBI Terrorism is the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. Sounds like the Colorado planned parenthood shooter to me. If you want to take any definition of terrorism then you cannot equate the charts you put up as terrorist acts as a lot of them were crime related. Terrorism is a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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