[Truman_AU_2015]

He doesn't need that family in Baton Rouge when he has the AU Family. Glad to have him here. War Eagle y'all.

[AURaptor]

Man, talk about one jumping right in your boat...and right where we really need it, too.

Awesome.

[RunInRed]

AURaptor, on 12 January 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

Man, talk about one jumping right in your boat...and right where we really need it, too.

Awesome.

This.

[tgr4lfe]

HUGE pick up, no doubt. Possibility of him competing for OT position this fall? I would imagine enrolling now would raise that likelihood greatly!!

[Mikey]

Ok then, either the rule has changed since I last looked into it or I was flat wrong in my earlier interpretation. It does appear that if a school is bumping the 85 limit, they must graduate a current player to make room for an early enrollee.

By whatever means, this is a great pickup for Auburn!

[cptau]

Perhaps our new OC from the NFL made him reconsider?

And then there is always the, "the dorm room they put me in was really bad" reason. I have seen people switch schools at the last minute because of some mess up with student housing. They literally walked in saw the room, left and got in the car and drove to the next school.

[TitanTiger]

If you watch the video RuninRed posted, it seems pretty simple. He wanted to enroll in January for the spring semester. LSU called and they ended up having some people they expected to graduate in January that didn't quite get there, so they didn't have enough slots to let all the early enrollees on scholarship in January. Miles called Miller's dad and asked him to pay for the spring semester and they'd put him on scholly in the summer. Miller had been torn between Auburn and LSU and having family in Baton Rouge had been the tipping point, but now at the last minute they were dropping this bomb on him. So the had the coach call Auburn to see if we had openings for early enrollees and if we still wanted him. AU said yes, they slept on it and pulled the trigger the next day.

[cptau]

TitanTiger, on 12 January 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

If you watch the video RuninRed posted, it seems pretty simple. He wanted to enroll in January for the spring semester. LSU called and they ended up having some people they expected to graduate in January that didn't quite get there, so they didn't have enough slots to let all the early enrollees on scholarship in January. Miles called Miller's dad and asked him to pay for the spring semester and they'd put him on scholly in the summer. Miller had been torn between Auburn and LSU and having family in Baton Rouge had been the tipping point, but now at the last minute they were dropping this bomb on him. So the had the coach call Auburn to see if we had openings for early enrollees and if we still wanted him. AU said yes, they slept on it and pulled the trigger the next day.

So for whatever LSU tuition for a semester costs plus housing and meals, LSU lost him.

[TitanTiger]

cptau, on 13 January 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:

TitanTiger, on 12 January 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

If you watch the video RuninRed posted, it seems pretty simple. He wanted to enroll in January for the spring semester. LSU called and they ended up having some people they expected to graduate in January that didn't quite get there, so they didn't have enough slots to let all the early enrollees on scholarship in January. Miles called Miller's dad and asked him to pay for the spring semester and they'd put him on scholly in the summer. Miller had been torn between Auburn and LSU and having family in Baton Rouge had been the tipping point, but now at the last minute they were dropping this bomb on him. So the had the coach call Auburn to see if we had openings for early enrollees and if we still wanted him. AU said yes, they slept on it and pulled the trigger the next day.

So for whatever LSU tuition for a semester costs plus housing and meals, LSU lost him.

It was a "slots available" issue, not a money issue. The timing of it would put them over the 85 scholarship limit, so they needed one of the new arrivals to wait until summer when some of the seniors would be graduated. They chose him and he didn't like it.

[hqsi99]

TitanTiger, on 13 January 2012 - 06:57 AM, said:

cptau, on 13 January 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:

TitanTiger, on 12 January 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

If you watch the video RuninRed posted, it seems pretty simple. He wanted to enroll in January for the spring semester. LSU called and they ended up having some people they expected to graduate in January that didn't quite get there, so they didn't have enough slots to let all the early enrollees on scholarship in January. Miles called Miller's dad and asked him to pay for the spring semester and they'd put him on scholly in the summer. Miller had been torn between Auburn and LSU and having family in Baton Rouge had been the tipping point, but now at the last minute they were dropping this bomb on him. So the had the coach call Auburn to see if we had openings for early enrollees and if we still wanted him. AU said yes, they slept on it and pulled the trigger the next day.

So for whatever LSU tuition for a semester costs plus housing and meals, LSU lost him.

It was a "slots available" issue, not a money issue. The timing of it would put them over the 85 scholarship limit, so they needed one of the new arrivals to wait until summer when some of the seniors would be graduated. They chose him and he didn't like it.

The answer to this is probably no, but could a school put a player in this situation on some sort of academic scholarship for one semester and then change it to a football scholarship when the room opens up?

[AUtiger98]

hqsi99, on 13 January 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

TitanTiger, on 13 January 2012 - 06:57 AM, said:

cptau, on 13 January 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:

TitanTiger, on 12 January 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

If you watch the video RuninRed posted, it seems pretty simple. He wanted to enroll in January for the spring semester. LSU called and they ended up having some people they expected to graduate in January that didn't quite get there, so they didn't have enough slots to let all the early enrollees on scholarship in January. Miles called Miller's dad and asked him to pay for the spring semester and they'd put him on scholly in the summer. Miller had been torn between Auburn and LSU and having family in Baton Rouge had been the tipping point, but now at the last minute they were dropping this bomb on him. So the had the coach call Auburn to see if we had openings for early enrollees and if we still wanted him. AU said yes, they slept on it and pulled the trigger the next day.

So for whatever LSU tuition for a semester costs plus housing and meals, LSU lost him.

It was a "slots available" issue, not a money issue. The timing of it would put them over the 85 scholarship limit, so they needed one of the new arrivals to wait until summer when some of the seniors would be graduated. They chose him and he didn't like it.

The answer to this is probably no, but could a school put a player in this situation on some sort of academic scholarship for one semester and then change it to a football scholarship when the room opens up?

My understanding is the in the NCAA's eyes academic scholarship and an athletic scholarship both count towards your 85 number. Even if they put him on a track scholarship he would have counted in the 85 number.

[AURaptor]

tgr4lfe, on 12 January 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

HUGE pick up, no doubt. Possibility of him competing for OT position this fall? I would imagine enrolling now would raise that likelihood greatly!!

Maybe I'm showing my ignorance here, not on just Patrick Miller, but of those already on campus, but doesn't he seem like he could use a year of weight training before seeing 1st or 2nd string action? Westermann was RS last year, and it's my understanding that he was higher ranked, more heavily recruited than Miller.

[Tigermike]

AURaptor, on 13 January 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

tgr4lfe, on 12 January 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

HUGE pick up, no doubt. Possibility of him competing for OT position this fall? I would imagine enrolling now would raise that likelihood greatly!!

Maybe I'm showing my ignorance here, not on just Patrick Miller, but of those already on campus, but doesn't he seem like he could use a year of weight training before seeing 1st or 2nd string action? Westermann was RS last year, and it's my understanding that he was higher ranked, more heavily recruited than Miller.

The point being Westerman didn't come in early. That's not a knock on him, just the way it was. Any kid who enrolls early will have a jump on those coming in in May or June. Working out for 6 months, working through spring drills gives them a foot up.

But then there are those like Willie Anderson & Steve Wallace who are destined to be a starter almost from day one.

On the whole in general that is.

[mcgufcm]

He may need a year in the weight room, but Auburn may not have that luxury. We just don't have bodies on the OL. Simple as that. Including Patrick Miller, the following are the only scholarship OL on the team:

OT - Slade, Robinson, Miller
OG - Sullen, Mack, Burgess, Westerman, O'Reilly (the latter two could shift out to Tackle if needed)
C - Dismukes, Fariyike

With the loss of Ed Christian and Aubrey Phillips (medical reasons... careers are over) and Shon Coleman's illness (hopefully he'll be able to suit up at some point, but it won't be this year), the only other guys available are walk-ons. Any and all OL in this class have a legit chance at immediately impacting the two-deep.

[Mikey]

A "recruited" football player that is put on scholarship, any scholarship, counts as a football scholarship. That's Bear Bryant rule #97.

Some ignorant B'ham News writer published an article about four all-state football players getting academic scholarships at UAT. Da' Bahr got the writer fired, but someone at the NCAA read the article, stepped in and stopped that practice.

Auburn's current basketball player Josh Wallace is on an academic scholarship for engineering, but Wallace was not a recruited BB player so he doesn't count against the BB limit.