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I can't believe I am saying this.... Maybe its time to shut it down. I respect the plight of minority populations, I do. I do NOT feel the way about minority athletes. They have every advantage. Hell, I would even say that reverse racism exists for most positions (say a white receiver). To ask for special treatment is a slap in the face. Bring kids in that can qualify (of all races) and let others go pro. The Universities have long lowered the bar athletes.
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I was the game and will never watch a replay!
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There is an awful lot of evil in the big money college sports business and it should be addressed but I am worried that in addressing it we will also lose all the good that comes from college sports. College athletes graduate at a slightly higher rate than regular students many who are minority students. Many Alumni donate to Academic Scholarships because of the love of the University that they developed because of the sports programs. I understand with the huge amount of money being made by the top Power 5 programs why it seems like the athletes are doing the work and Universities coaches and administrators are getting the money and it is unfair. The issue is only a small number of Universities could afford to pay players the rest would pretty much lose out and if you think recruiting is dirty now it would get even dirtier. TV money is what is driving this but one thing many may not have noticed many of the newer generations on not that into watching college sports they are gaming online and have other things that are more important to them. If less people watch TV money goes down I would not be surprised in the next round of TV paying for game rights contract negotiation for the first time ever they offer less than the previous contract. The world is changing but value based on market share doesn't change if market share goes down so does the value of the product.
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Here we have the Trump supporter focusing on a tree instead of the forest. He will never acknowledge that the riots were started by a white cop in Minneapolis. He will cling to false narratives about the protests. He will regurgitate Fox News and insist that Portland protestors are terrorists when in actuality all they did was graffiti some statutes. Again, he adamantly applauds the disregard of due process and advocates for tear gassing American citizens and shooting them with rubber bullets. He is cheering tyranny while democracy dies. -
God forbid anyone just tell these players, "No". If they are so truly taken advantage of then just leave the team and find some other way to pay for college.
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Auburn Flashback - 2014 South Carolina Game
twilli13 replied to StatTiger's topic in AU Football Forum
Yeah I agree. Held us back alittle the last few years. Last years d would have been unbelievable with a stud speed rusher or 2. -
Deutsche Bank launched an internal investigation into the longtime personal banker of President Donald Trump and son-in-law Jared Kushner, according to The New York Times. Trump relied heavily on the bank for loans when other top banks refused to do business with him after a series of bankruptcies and defaults; he still owes hundreds of millions to the financial giant. Kushner's family also borrowed millions from the bank.......... https://www.salon.com/2020/08/03/deutsche-bank-launches-internal-probe-into-personal-banker-of-donald-trump-and-jared-kushner-report/ hmmmmmmmm, Deutsche Bank was embroiled in a vast money-laundering operation, dubbed the Global Laundromat. Russian criminals with links to the Kremlin, the old KGB and its main successor, the FSB, used the scheme between 2010 and 2014 to move money into the western financial system.Apr 17, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/apr/17/deutsche-bank-faces-action-over-20bn-russian-money-laundering-scheme Just, another reason to look forward to Trump's defeat in November - entertainment. -
Trump wanted a Portland-style war in Chicago — in a second term, he'll do it Trump's team convinced him there'd be "extreme backlash" — but in a second term, he wouldn't care about that Heather Digby Parton August 3, 2020 1:19PM (UTC) Donald Trump isn't the first president to fail on a grand scale, and he certainly isn't the first to test the boundaries of the system to see what he can get away with. But he is unique in certain respects. The full panoply of grotesque personality defects and openly corrupt behaviors is something we've never seen before in someone who ascended to the most powerful office in the land. People will study this era for a very long time to try to figure out just what cultural conditions allowed such an advanced, wealthy nation to end up with such an ignorant, unqualified leader. But that's actually less interesting in some ways that how party officials came to support him so unquestioningly and why so few career bureaucrats and civil servants have publicly stood up to him. What kind of system produces that kind of loyalty for a man who never had the support of more than 45% of the country, and who won by virtue of an anachronistic electoral system that allowed him to take office with nearly 3 million fewer votes than his opponent? Trump may be a uniquely unfit leader, but the party that has backed him without question is not unique. In fact, the last Republican administration showed many of the same characteristics. Robert Draper's new book "To Start a War: How the Bush Administration Took America Into Iraq" reminds us that just 17 years ago, in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, the George W. Bush administration used propaganda and disinformation to persuade the American people to go along with a war that made no logical sense on its face. As almost the entire world looked on in astonishment, the U.S. — with the shameful cooperation of the U.K. under Tony Blair — invaded a country that had no involvement in that attack. A certain faction within the administration had come into office with the intention of finding a reason to do that if they could. They seized the moment, cooked up some flimsy evidence, constructed a convoluted rationale and just went for it. Draper goes into some detail about how the administration successfully brought the bureaucracy into line, illustrating the fact that it tends to serve any president, even when individuals may stand up or resist. In fact, he pretty much blows up the idea of an unaccountable "deep state," showing instead that it's pretty much impotent to stop a determined president from using the powerful levers of government when he wants to. Trump hasn't attacked another country, thank goodness, although I think that's been a matter of luck more than anything else. We came extremely close last January when he decided to assassinate Iran's top general right before his impeachment trial was about to start. Iran didn't take the bait and we avoided that disaster. As it turns out, the inevitable Trump catastrophe happened right here at home with his tragically inept management of the COVID-18 pandemic and subsequent economic crisis. But he has certainly done everything he can to stoke a war at home this summer as people took to the streets to protest the murder of George Floyd and show support for the Black Lives Matter movement. If Americans weren't already overwhelmed from the other two crises and Trump was even slightly more skilled, he might have pulled it off as deftly as Bush and Cheney. We know from his phone call with the governors back in June that he believes the government should "dominate" the streets and throw demonstrators in jail to show who's boss. And this should be no surprise. As far back as 1989, Trump made his beliefs clear with the disgusting Central Park Five full-page ad. From the moment he took office he has embraced the most authoritarian dictators in the world, congratulating them for their violent crackdowns on their own citizens. Over the past several weeks Trump and his top henchmen, Attorney General Bill Barr and acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf, directed a disastrous paramilitary operation in Portland, Oregon, ostensibly to "protect" a federal building from protesters. This article in the Daily Beast by Asawin Suebsaeng and Erin Banco reveals chilling details of how Trump wanted to expand that operation into Chicago, and potentially other cities: According to three people familiar with the president's private remarks, Trump previously envisioned an ostentatious, camera-ready show of force. He wanted to go after what he saw as violent gang leaders, flush them out of hiding in ways that would have them "shaking in their boots" like they never had before, and have alleged perpetrators marched out in front of the news cameras. Violent crime has long plagued Chicago, and murders are spiking to highs not seen in decades. But Trump insisted that with the right leader, and the right muscle, crime there could be reduced "very quickly." The president said he wanted something similar to what his administration has done in Portland, an ongoing melee between protesters and rioters and unmarked federal authorities. Trump has been closely monitoring the conflict — largely on his favorite channel, Fox News — and trumpeting it as a sign of his own supposed strength. Some senior members of the White House team reportedly realized that such an assault "would almost certainly result in extreme backlash and hellishly bad PR," so they ended up scaling back the plan to "Operation Legend," which is simply an expansion of earlier programs to lend federal investigative help to local jurisdictions. This was described to the Daily Beast reporters as a pattern in which Trump demands "large-scale, draconian, and potentially disastrous action, with senior officials actively working to temper or inflame, those desires": "There was rarely a time I spoke to him about violent crime when two things didn't come up: Number One, that it's all happening in Democrat-run cities, with Chicago being shorthand for that kind of [blight]," said one former senior Trump administration official. "And Number Two, if it were up to him, we would return to the old days where it was eye-for-an-eye, tooth-for-a-tooth — or we would forget about proportionality altogether. He would talk about lining up drug dealers and gang members in front of a firing squad ... If it were solely up to him, that is how the country would solve crime in Democrat-run cities [such as Chicago and Detroit]." That's his impulse and it's been more or less kept in check, often by his own short attention span. Trump tweets something, and it makes him feel better for the moment. But what about the rank and file, the lower levels of officialdom? What do they do? Judging from the Portland operation, they go along. Some go even further. Just this week the acting DHS undersecretary for intelligence and analysis, Brian Murphy, was removed from his job after he was found compiling "intelligence reports" about journalists and protesters in Portland. According to the Washington Post, "Murphy tried to broaden the definition of violent protesters in Portland, in a way that some officials felt was intended to curry favor with the White House," calling them "violent antifa anarchists." If Trump wins the validation he craves by being elected to a second term, true believers like Murphy will be further empowered up and down the line. And we can expect that Trump's own Deep State will be more than happy to implement his program. It wouldn't be the first time. https://www.salon.com/2020/08/03/trump-wanted-a-portland-style-war-in-chicago--in-a-second-term-hell-do-it/
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Liberty University Poured Millions Into Sports. Now Its Black Athletes Are Leaving. Jerry Falwell Jr.’s dream of athletic domination is in peril. https://slate.com/culture/2020/08/liberty-university-falwell-black-athletes-football-sports.html?via=taps_top “I Suppressed So Much of My Humanity in Being Here” What it’s like to be black at Liberty University. https://slate.com/human-interest/2020/06/liberty-university-black-students-faculty.html
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Hint: Any sort of violence or destruction, anywhere, is going to make the "front page" everywhere in every news outlet. Always. "If it bleeds it leads". That doesn't mean it's a fair or general characterization of the literally thousands of peaceful protests that were occurring throughout the country in both large and small cities. It it were, we would actually be having the sort of civil unrest that Trump is trying to convince you we have. We're not. Most (thinking) people realize that. So what is it with conservatives that makes them soooo gullible? And if a given city really needs federal help, it's up to them to ask for it. I mean, aren't you the guys who are always touting federalism and state's rights???
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Taibbi: Kansas should go f___ itself... https://taibbi.substack.com/p/kansas-should-go-f-itself Very interesting read on Frank Thomas' follow up to What’s the Matter with Kansas? , is called The People, No: A Brief History of Anti-Populism. Very long article, i will let you do the link. Basically Frank again makes the point that 1) he was correct in WTMWK? and predicted the emergence of someone like trump. 2) He is again predicting bad things ahead as Neolibs spit even more venom towards anyone that isnt them.
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I think these players are going to inadvertently kill college football trying to go after these list of demands. I'm still in the camp that these players getting a full ride scholarship plus all the perks of being an athlete is their pay. Good thing Auburn didn't waste all that money adding on to Jordan-Hare because those additional seats will never be needed. If the NFL starts a minor league it will be just like MLB minor league. Hardly anyone is going to watch it on TV so the players will get far less exposure nationally than they will playing for a major university. They'll be riding buses instead of planes to their away game. They may get a signing bonus to play but after that will be a minimal salary and they will struggle to live on what they make just like minor league ball players. They won't have room and board covered for like at school.
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Auburn Flashback - 2014 South Carolina Game
NoALtiger replied to StatTiger's topic in AU Football Forum
Man HBC not punting was absolutely awesome. I remember his post game where he just flat lined it to the reporters about it and pulled no punches. Miss that dude on the sidelines and his one liners. -
Well there are a lot of neo-fascist Republicans that are "pushing this" as well : As Trump leans into attacks on mail voting, GOP officials confront signs of Republican turnout crisis By Amy Gardner and Josh Dawsey August 3, 2020 at 10:47 a.m. EDT President Trump’s unfounded attacks on mail balloting are discouraging his own supporters from embracing the practice, according to polls and Republican leaders across the country, prompting growing alarm that one of the central strategies of his campaign is threatening GOP prospects in November. Multiple public surveys show a growing divide between Democrats and Republicans about the security of voting by mail, with Republicans saying they are far less likely to trust it in November. In addition, party leaders in several states said they are encountering resistance among GOP voters who are being encouraged to vote absentee while also seeing the president describe mail voting as “rigged” and “fraudulent.” As a result, state and local Republicans across the country fear they are falling dramatically behind in a practice that is expected to be key to voter turnout this year. Through mailers and Facebook ads, they are racing to promote absentee balloting among their own. In the process, some Republican officials have tried to draw a distinction between “absentee ballots,” which Trump claims are secure, and “mail ballots,” which he has repeatedly attacked. The terms are typically used interchangeably. Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill, describing a recent meeting with a group of Republican voters in Fort Payne, said he felt compelled to explain that there is only one kind of mail-in voting in Alabama, and that it is safe and secure. “They were confused about two different kinds of mail-in balloting,” he said, “where one is ‘good’ and one is not.” Merrill’s concerns were echoed by senior White House and campaign aides, as well as GOP operatives in numerous key states including Pennsylvania, Ohio and Iowa, who all spoke on the condition of anonymity to criticize the president. “It is a problem,” said one Republican strategist in North Carolina. “The president has oversimplified the issue to criticize the method of voting, rather than the way it’s done. The details matter.” Republican National Committee spokesman Mike Reed disputed the view that Trump’s attacks on mail voting are a threat to Republican turnout. “Some are going to vote absentee through the proper process as they always do, and you will see us encouraging them to do that,” Reed said. “But many of our voters just prefer to vote in person.” With the novel coronavirus pandemic still raging across the United States, election officials in dozens of states have addressed fears of infection at the polls by preparing for a massive increase in mail balloting. Officials in both parties are building turnout operations geared specifically to mail voting on the belief that a majority of voters will prefer to cast their ballots this way. At least 77 percent of American voters will be able to vote through the mail in the fall, according to a Washington Post tracker of state rules. At the same time, Trump’s campaign and the RNC are fighting against the expansion of mail balloting, seeking to stop efforts backed by Democrats and voting rights advocates to loosen rules, such as witness signatures and identification requirements, that would make it easier for people to vote by mail. GOP party officials argue that such restrictions are necessary to prevent fraud. Voting rules changed quickly for the primaries. But the battle over how Americans will cast ballots in the fall is just heating up. The president has gone much further, however, launching wholesale broadsides against the concept of voting by mail that have emerged as a central strategy of his campaign. “The 2020 Election will be totally rigged if Mail-In Voting is allowed to take place, & everyone knows it,” he tweeted July 26, one of more than 70 attacks he has made against voting by mail since March, according to a tally by The Post. Senior Trump advisers, including RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, have warned the president that his broad rhetoric is complicating Republican turnout efforts, multiple strategists said. McDaniel and Justin Clark, Trump’s deputy campaign manager, have repeatedly encouraged the president to promote the use of absentee ballots. McDaniel has additionally urged him to stop his blanket attacks on mail voting and present a more nuanced message. GOP officials around the country said more clarity from the president would help voters. “I think that is the distinction he is trying to draw,” Merrill said. “I would hope that he would be more specific in his explanation so people understand what the difference is.” Trump has indicated that he has no plans to back off his attacks on the integrity of the vote, strategists said. Some advisers acknowledged privately that the president may be laying the groundwork to claim the election was rigged if he loses in November. Just last week, Trump suggested delaying the election until Americans can safely cast ballots in person. In recent days, Vice President Pence and Attorney General William P. Barr both spoke publicly about the risk of fraud they said was inherent in mail balloting, without offering evidence. The president also recently elevated Clark, a lawyer who has led his campaign’s litigation efforts to restrict the expansion of mail voting. And the White House is expected to repeatedly emphasize the risks of “mass mail-in voting” in upcoming months, according to a senior White House official. “He tweets about this every day,” said a campaign adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal thinking. “Clearly, it’s his concerted strategy.” Trump encounters broad pushback to his suggestion to delay the Nov. 3 election On Monday, the president accused Democrats in Nevada of “an illegal late night coup” after the state legislature passed a bill that would allow ballots to be sent to all active voters, while also requiring a minimum number of in-person voting locations. Trump tweeted that it “made it impossible for Republicans to win the state” and claimed the U.S. Postal Service “could never handle the Traffic of Mail-In Votes without preparation.” “See you in Court!” he added. Trump campaign spokesman Tim Murtaugh said there is nothing confusing about the president’s distinction between absentee balloting and all-mail voting. He declined to address concerns in the party that Trump has discouraged his supporters to vote absentee. “President Trump was quite clear that universal mail-in voting, as Democrats are pushing, is ripe for fraud, while normal absentee voting by mail is completely different,” Murtaugh said. “There’s a vast difference between voting absentee for people who can’t get to the polls on Election Day versus mailing every registered voter a ballot, even those who didn’t request one.” In fact, only a handful of states are planning to proactively send mail ballots to all voters. They include three that have successfully conducted virtually all-mail elections for years: Washington, Oregon and Colorado. Democrats are not seeking mail-only elections in most states, in part because many of their voters, especially people of color and younger Americans, have historically been less likely to vote by mail. Mike Babinski opens ballot applications at the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections in Ohio last month. (Tony Dejak/AP) Meanwhile, there are now growing signs of a palpable impact on GOP enthusiasm for mail voting. A Monmouth University poll of registered voters in Georgia taken late last month found that 60 percent of Democrats are at least somewhat likely to vote by mail this fall, compared to 28 percent of Republicans. Glen Bolger, a pollster with the Republican firm Public Opinion Strategies, said that in one swing state he declined to identify, only 15 percent of voters planning to cast ballots by mail were Trump supporters. “Republicans are skeptical about voting by mail, and that’s a problem up and down the ballot,” he said. Similarly, an analysis of current absentee ballot requests in North Carolina shows that Democrats have vastly outpaced Republicans, even though roughly the same numbers of Republicans and Democrats voted by mail four years ago. “Everybody’s up,” said Michael Bitzer, a politics professor at Catawba College in Salisbury, N.C., who conducted the analysis. “It’s just that Democrats and unaffiliateds are through the roof, and Republicans are not even on the second floor.” Bitzer said Trump’s “mixed messages” about absentee balloting are probably one factor, along with more enthusiasm and greater coronavirus concerns among Democrats. Trump’s attacks on mail voting are turning Republicans off absentee ballots Republicans have been working in creative ways to try to counter the effects of Trump’s words. State and national Republicans are inundating their voters with Facebook ads and mailers promoting the message that absentee balloting is safe. Some of the messages claim that Trump is criticizing only the practice of “universal” mail-balloting — sending ballots to all registered voters. One recent Facebook sponsored post from the Johnston County, N.C., Republican Party exhorted voters not to dismiss a GOP mail piece coming their way: “ATTENTION!!! If you receive an ABSENTEE BALLOT MAILER like shown in this picture, please know that it is legitimate!!!” “Please don’t confuse North Carolina’s absentee system with other states’ all-mail elections,” read the message from party chairman. “NCGOP and JoCo GOP agrees with the President that our current absentee ballot request system is safe and secure.” The assurance was met with skepticism from many commenters. “Burned it! I will go in person to vote straight Republican,” wrote one. “Why is the GOP sending this out,” wrote another, adding: “You know damn well that we are arguing against this, and here it is our own damn party sending this horse dung out?!!! Whoever is in charge of this should be fired. I am going to the polls, Don’t send me one.” Another recent ad, from the Alaska GOP, lamented how few Republicans have requested absentee ballots and urged supporters to submit their request “NOW.” Reed, the RNC spokesman, said there is a “clear difference” between what Democrats are seeking this cycle and a typical absentee ballot request process. “Washington Democrats and the media may not understand these distinctions or be willfully misconstruing them, but our voters understand it,” he said. However, some of Trump’s advisers don’t think he has done a good job explaining the distinction — while others have admitted there really isn’t a difference. In one lawsuit pending in Pennsylvania, the president’s lawyers argued that “the terms ‘mail-in’ and ‘absentee’ are used interchangeably.” More than 30 states — including Florida, where Trump voted absentee in the primary this year — allow any voter to cast a ballot by mail. For their part, Democrats are challenging measures that they argue create unfair hurdles to voting, such as rules limiting who can cast absentee ballots, while also pushing to extend early in-person voting and ensure that all Election Day voting locations are able to open with full staffs. Marc Elias, a Democratic lawyer who is leading voting litigation in 18 states this year, said the president’s muddled messaging has “sawed off the limbs of every House and Senate candidate in America” trying to maximize voter turnout during a pandemic election. Some Republicans actions amount to an admission that Trump’s rhetoric might be confusing. In Florida, Republicans have begun encouraging their supporters to vote early in person — an apparent concession to the mistrust of mail balloting Trump has sown. And a GOP mail piece, sent to voters in North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Michigan, quotes part of a July 10 tweet by Trump, in which he wrote: “Absentee Ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your voting privilege.” But the flier blurs out the second part of the tweet: “Not so with Mail-Ins. Rigged Election!!! 20% fraudulent ballots?” Reed defended the mailer, describing it as “completely in line” with Trump’s position, but he declined to address the blurring of the president’s tweet. The fliers were paid for by state parties but produced in coordination with Trump Victory, a joint fundraising committee that includes the RNC. A voter drops off her ballot in March for the primary in Washington state, which offers universal mail voting. (John Froschauer/AP) Political operatives across the country say banking early and absentee votes is crucial to avoid leaving turnout to chance, including the vagaries of weather on Election Day as well as the potential of an autumn spike in coronavirus infections. A shift to Election Day voting also costs campaigns money, several operatives said; ballots cast by mail shrink the universe of voters who still need to be persuaded with expensive mail pieces, robocalls and TV ads in the final days of the race. In some states, Republican leaders who had previously followed Trump’s lead in discouraging expanded access to mail balloting are shifting their approach. In Iowa, the GOP-controlled legislature passed a law earlier this year blocking the secretary of state, Republican Paul Pate, from sending ballot request forms to all registered voters without lawmakers’ permission. But in July, after several Democratic counties in Iowa announced they would send request forms themselves, legislative leaders granted the state permission to do so, as well. Democrats, meanwhile, believe Trump’s rhetoric has given them a potential turnout advantage — but they are also preparing for the possibility that the president is laying the groundwork to contest the results after Nov. 3. Barring a landslide, what’s probably not coming on Nov. 3? A result in the race for the White House. It’s possible that the Democratic advantage among absentee votes, and the potential Republican advantage in Election Day voting, will mean that the president will appear ahead that night — only to potentially lose as mail ballots are tallied in subsequent days. The flood of mail votes could also prompt a barrage of litigation over which ballots should be counted. “Must know Election results on the night of the Election, not days, months, or even years later!” Trump tweeted last week. On voting issues, Elias, the Democrats’ lead tactician said: “Their sole purpose is to mount a cynical effort to undermine the elections and people’s confidence in the outcome.” Even after he was widely rebuked last week for floating the idea of delaying the election, Trump did not repudiate the idea. Stephen Miller, the president’s senior policy adviser, defended his boss in a Fox News interview, falsely claiming that the identities of voters who cast ballots are not confirmed, allowing noncitizens to vote. “This will be catastrophic for our nation,” the president said at the White House on Friday. “You’ll see it. I’m always right about things like this.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republicans-race-to-promote-mail-voting-as-trumps-attacks-discourage-his-own-supporters-from-embracing-the-practice/2020/08/03/9dd1d988-d1d9-11ea-9038-af089b63ac21_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_gopalarm-1045am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans Bottom line, all this is irrelevant. Trump is going to lose regardless of any role mail in voting plays. The only question at this point will be the margin of loss. And after all the votes are counted, it will likely be huge. And we have time left to get the mail-in voting right regardless. Trump is just trying to demagogue it because he knows he's likely to lose.
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Alabama gets another rule changed in their favor 🙄
casatiger replied to Maverick.AU's topic in Rivals Football
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+1. It annoys me even more because this is the party that claims to be pro-life. -
There are people on this site who (say they) are going to vote for him again specifically because he's managed to undo some of Obama's efforts. Not that he's actually done anything, only that he's undone some things. It's like they're celebrating a car with no engine because they didn't like the functioning one that was in there. An entire ideology based on pettiness and stupidity. -
We all know that the GOP really only wants to repeal ACA. Replace is just a lie. Trump continues to push the lie.
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Where did you get that idea, Mr. "Begging the Question"? You are the one who said we shouldn't be spending "billions" on testing when "it does nothing to change people's behavior". Stop with the weaseling. It's beneath you. Just drop it if you have nothing else to say.
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Whatever happened to "states rights"? You're OK with a tyrannical federal government as long as they are on your side. Hypocrite.
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well this did not age well...................lol
Brad_ATX replied to aubiefifty's topic in Political Smack Talk
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WOW is this what to expect from auburn for 2020?
McLoofus replied to aubiefifty's topic in Rivals Football
Soccer's been great. Part of that is that soccer almost never stops, except now they've got the water break each half. But yeah, the fake crowd noise 100% makes it better for me. You can even forget for small stretches that things aren't normal. Haven't gotten to watch NBA yet but I want to. I'm not a baseball guy at all so nothing lost there. -
well this did not age well...................lol
DKW 86 replied to aubiefifty's topic in Political Smack Talk
You need knew friends too...
