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  1. Josh Allen was a rookie, I'm sorry that he wasn't the best QB in the league on a rebuilding team in his first season in the league, but there is an investment in his development (like the fact that they traded up to draft him) and any team worth anything would obviously allocate their playing time to a player that they have made a serious investment in until that player proves that he can't do it. Are you seriously sitting here and suggesting that your idea of running a rebuilding team includes benching a QB who you just traded up to draft at 7th overall (they gave up two second round picks to move up five spots) so that you can instead play a guy who hasn't taken a snap in two seasons, and who's last book of performance includes losing his job to Blaine Gabbert, who himself is one of the worst QB's in the league? If you are being serious, then you need to remove yourself from any serious football discussion because that "idea" is utterly horrendous. You are empirically wrong in your analysis as Josh Allen has absolutely shown elite-level skills (like the fact that he makes throws that almost no other QB can make, and his running ability has already been a surprisingly lethal skill) that are worth exploring until he otherwise proves that he isn't intriguing, and his one season in the league isn't enough to conclude that. Jameis Winston is a more naturally talented passer and has put up comparable if not better stats on worse teams. As stupid as he is, at 25 years old there is still a chance he puts it together...and again...this comes down to upside: what exactly is the upside in playing 31 year old Kaepernick over that? You keep calling him a "Superbowl QB" and yet you can't even comprehend the fact that in any sport, and football in particular, your MOST RECENT performance is rightfully valued over whatever the hell you did earlier in your career because guess what? Recent performance is a better indicator of future performance. What is Kaepernick's most recent performance? Again, it is losing his starting job to Blaine Gabbert, and he lost his job because he wasn't performing. If he was a "Superbowl QB", then how could he possibly lose his job to a player as bad as Gabbert? Riddle me that. The more likely explanation, which should be obvious, is that his stint as a "Superbowl QB" was nothing more than a fluke, which is exactly what the case was. He's never thrown more than 21 touchdowns in a season; he is a "caretaker" type QB who had one good run...just like Trent Dilfer on that Ravens team. The Baltimore thing wasn't my opinion, it is exactly what happened. They were going to sign him and then his girlfriend for some reason went out and tried to make a racist Django Unchained claim regarding the team's owner and Ray Lewis (insinuating that the owner was his "master" or something) when in fact Ray Lewis was the one was pushing for Kaepernick to be signed in the first place. If he wanted to play so badly, then why is his girlfriend going out of her way to rail-road his career? IT'S BECAUSE SHE IS USING HIM to push her own agenda. If you can't see that, then you are hopelessly lost. If you are any other team in the league, and you saw that Baltimore thing unfold, why in the hell would YOU want to reach out and sign Kaepernick? Especially when he isn't even that good in the first place? Again, the whole "game" here is to pretend like he wants to play but then to do something to kill any chance of a team actually signing him, and then turning around and pretending like the reason why the deal didn't happen was because....racism LOL? Like I said, Kaepernick is nothing more than an insecure kid who is being used as a pawn. Just because what I said makes you feel uncomfortable, it doesn't mean that its untrue. The validation seeking behavior and otherwise insecurity regarding self identity is absolutely known to be extremely common among biracial people and it makes complete sense for the reasons I gave. His girlfriend is nothing more than a race-baiter, so excuse me if I choose to not believe the validity of her actions. She is an obvious extremist, which means that this whole thing stems from a place far beyond "oh I just want to help black people" or whatever sappy image you want to conjure up in your head.
  2. Hehehehehehe, who remembers that "Slayton will be lucky to get drafted" thread LOL?
  3. You are answering your own statement. He is good enough to be a backup, nothing more. He has no intention of being a backup or taking a backup salary, so in reality he is pricing himself out of any jobs and then turning around and pretending like he is being "black balled" when he in fact has zero intention of playing. You think he's better than Josh Allen? A top pick with immense talent who made progress as a rookie? LOL. He isn't better than Tannehill (Miami) or Winston, as stupid as he is. Kaepernick lost his starting job to Blaine Gabbert, and you're on here claiming he's better than 5+ starting NFL QB's? Yeah, sure thing. He was a flash in the pan, who is in fact a backup caliber player, but he can make more money sitting on his ass and collecting pity money from endorsements while building his image as some martyr so guess what he's going to do? As mentioned; he just got a job offer and then demanded $20 million to play LOL. By the way, the Ravens were ready to sign him until his extremist girlfriend (who is behind this whole game BTW) went out and tried to embarrass the organization. None of this was a thing until he hooked up with this woman. The most recent news has her blasting rapper Travis Scott for daring to perform at the Super Bowl halftime show. Colin Kaepernick suffers the sad fate of many biracial kids: he yearns for finding an identity, and that often leads to looking for others to validate an identity....hence this girlfriend. What happens with a lot of these white/black biracial kids is that they obviously don't look white and therefore will never be accepted as such, so they push to try and be as ":black" as possible because the black community gives them s*** as well. An easy way to prove your "blackness" is by becoming one of these race-warriors. The reality behind Colin Kaepernick however is that he is a millionaire who went to college and was raised in a loving upper middle-class family in an upper middle-class neighborhood. At no point in time has he ever been oppressed. In fact, his whole life is a story of privilege...all the way up to landing a Nike endorsement for get this....NOT playing football.
  4. Greg Brown has mastered the technique of job-hopping to avoid being fired. You can't get fired if you just walk out on your own, knawmsayin?
  5. Cox will not play in the NFL. Not only is his position barely used, but he's not even that good at it in the first place.
  6. Dear god, Kendall Simmons is not going to become the OL coach. He has literally zero coaching experience. Zero. He moved back to Auburn and wanted a job; he's an analyst not some guy who's here to get pushed into a role he has zero qualification of filling.
  7. Do some of you even read the articles? He's hired as the Director of Recruiting, which is an off-field desk job which means that he CAN NOT "recruit" off campus. So how is he going to reel in Louisiana talent lol? "The director of football recruiting oversees on-campus recruiting departments while also helping with player personnel at Auburn." This guy isn't going out on the road and recruiting anyone. He isn't a coach.
  8. The game means very little. Its a glorified exhibition event, lots of scouts actually leave after the last practice day.
  9. This. You can actually take a look at a recent pic that Simmons Tweeted out of him working in his new position. In the pic you can clearly see a Compliance sheet on his desk which outlines what he can and can't do. He is NOT allowed to coach.
  10. Ryan Davis is showing out big time in Shrine Bowl practices. Just LOL at the way we use receivers smh.
  11. Again, you are making things up to fit your (incorrect) narrative. Greg Robinson's draft stock didn't soar to Top 5 status until after the Combine wherein he showed freakish speed (4.92 forty at 332 pounds) and power (32 bench reps with above-average arm length). Going into the Combine he was actually perceived to be behind at least the OT out of Texas A&M, but eventually rose above after a freakish display in Indianapolis. He is one of the most physically impressive linemen to show up to the Combine probably ever. That had nothing to do with what we did or didn't teach him and everything to do with his pure natural physical talent, so you are outright LYING by claiming that he wasn't "elite NFL worthy" as you are going to be hard pressed to find a 330 pound man that can move like him while also having the power to throw people around like nothing. His problem is that he came out of that Auburn offense that was running the ball ~70% of the time and relying on rudimentary passing principles (and thus the pass blocking schemes were also rudimentary). He was very unprepared from a pass blocking perspective because we barely had to pass the ball period, and the NFL is a pass-oriented league. Our offense took advantage of his outright ability to just push guys forward (most of Mason's rush yards came on that side) at the expense of his overall development as a lineman. Yes, the argument you can make is that it is Auburn's job to do whatever it takes for Auburn to win regardless of what it means for the NFL development (or lack thereof) of its players, but when you take that stance then you're going to have to live with the reality that you will be negatively recruited to hell, because the primary goal of all any highly recruited kid is to play in the NFL. We run a gimmick offense that preaches simplicity, which is a NEGATIVE for the NFL development of basically every offensive player.
  12. That makes zero sense. Robinson was one of the freakiest athletes at his position in years. He was absolutely "NFL caliber".
  13. Buddy, your entire argument is devolving into whataboutism. I never stated that running fast was some golden ticket that guaranteed you a high draft position, so I fail to see what you are "debunking". Did you even bother to look into the background of Robert Foster? Robert Foster did virtually nothing at Alabama, battling injuries and otherwise failing to produce in his entire career. In his draft year he caught a pathetic 14 passes for 174 yards and 1 touchdown. In his entire CAREER he caught just 35 passes for 389 yards. Despite virtually zero production he was still invited to the Combine, where his athleticism shined. Yes, he still went undrafted...but wouldn't you say that his general lack of production was the primary factor? Very few if any players get drafted with as little on-field production as Foster showed, so you aren't proving anything by trying to use him as an example. In fact, Robert Foster actually DEBUNKS your own argument. Despite doing nothing at Alabama, and despite being undrafted, Foster not only made an NFL roster but he actually caught 27 passes for 541 yards and 3 touchdowns as a rookie for the Bills. At ~20 yards per reception, he proved to be an extremely dangerous deep threat.....BECAUSE OF HIS ATHLETICISM. He was more productive in his rookie season in the NFL than he was in his entire collegiate career, and the only reason why he even got a shot to play in the NFL in the first place was because of his athletic upside, not because he showed some extreme "technical" ability in his otherwise completely forgettable collegiate career LMAO. The reason why Slayton is intriguing is because the NFL is always in high demand for receivers who can stretch the field and create separation. Its why brick-handed Sammie Coates went in the 3rd round. That "skill" requires outright athleticism, you can't "technique" your way to running past a DB down the field. To state that athleticism doesn't matter at the receiver position is utter nonsense. The guys who aren't particularly elite runners make their way by presenting other physical traits, almost always size and strength. Yes, you can get away with being a 4.5-4.6 receiver....if you are 6'3+ and 215+ pounds. If you have any sense of draft history then you will know that NFL teams have disproved your asinine statement a million times already. The top drafted receivers ALWAYS display a certain combination of "athleticism" and physical stature. And it is entirely measurable. Look at Laquon Treadwell who was seen as a Top 10-15 talent until he ran slow as hell and tested poorly on his Pro Day; he dropped to the late 1st round. Then look at Washington's John Ross who was a late 1st round pick until he ran a ridiculous 4.22 at the Combine, which ultimately led to him being drafted 9th overall. He actually strained his calf during the 40 and couldn't do much in terms of position drills, so his "rise" after the Combine couldn't have had anything to do with him showing any sort of "technical" ability LOL. He got drafted high solely because of his innate speed. Now look at the ELITE receivers in the NFL. Find me even one guy who is "average" athletically and yet is still able to perform at an elite level. You think that Julio Jones is as good as he is because of his "craftiness" LMAO? How about he kid from Kansas City, Tyreek Hill? Calvin Johnson? Randy Moss? All of these guys obviously possess technique and "skill", but to pretend like their innate freakish athleticism isn't the driving force behind their dominance is beyond silly. Even guys like Larry Fitzgerald are top-level athletes. Fitzgerald ran in the 4.48-4.50 range at his Pro Day, which is very impressive once you consider that he measured 6'3 225 pounds (again, physical size and strength is another TOOL). You seem to be completely over-exaggerating what I'm even saying about Slayton. Not once did I claim that he was going to be a 1st round pick. I said that he has a chance to go as high as the 3rd round if he tests as well as some people are claiming he will. The reason why I brought him up is because if you've read this thread, the general consensus among people here is that he will be lucky to even get drafted. Nothing I've stated is even remotely out of the realm of possibility as NFL teams "overdraft" athleticism every single year. If you've actually watched the games, Slayton has beaten guys deep consistently even on plays where he ultimately didn't even catch the ball. There were LOTS of plays this year wherein Stidham simply missed him, including another pass against Purdue that would have been a 4th touchdown (early in the game). Those go as incompletions on the stat sheet, but they don't go unnoticed by NFL scouts. His speed routinely shows in games, and if he runs in the 4'3's at ~6'2 then you better bet that there is at least one team that takes the risk on his athletic upside, even if it just means using him as a deep threat.