Grumps

So you agree with me that we may both be right!

Seriously? How can it NOT mean, "What agenda do you think that Trump ran on, and what agenda do you think that HRC ran on"?

To justify my vote I tell myself, "Thank goodness that Mrs. Clinton is not POTUS." Period. The rest of your post has been discussed enough already. I know what Trump said, and you know what you think he meant. We may both be right.

^^^THIS. I think that a LOT of people who voted for Trump did not particularly like him or want to vote for him...and still don't. Trump was a joke of a candidate and he STILL beat HRC. Trump is still somewhat of a joke, but I still wouldn't vote for HRC over him. THAT'S how bad I think she is.

That is a very interesting article. Thanks for sharing. It seems that a big problem over there is that the people in charge use religious and cultural differences to keep the people fighting each other. Maybe we in the U.S. are more like the Middle East than I thought.

Is there SOME substance in what he says...sure! I agree with him that Trump is not your normal POTUS. But look at what Rather said: As with many of my fellow Americans, I don't consider myself partisan politically - never have. I am a registered independent voter and have been for most of my life. With that in mind, I submit the following: Can we please get this out of the way? None of what is happening at the top of government now is normal. None of it. And no one should normalize it. No one. This is obviously an exaggeration. We have a President who lies without a second thought. Big bold lies that are easily disproven. That is not normal. As AU64 implied, which POTUS didn't lie frequently? We have serious allegations around obstruction of justice by that President. That is not normal. We had serious allegations that Obama wasn't born in the U.S., and that was garbage. Do you REALLY think that Trump obstructed justice during his talk with Comey? Rather said "allegations" because he knows that there is no evidence. We have an FBI director fired for insisting to continue pursuing a serious investigation into the sanctify of our republic. It has never happened before in our history. That is not normal. We have testimony from Comey himself that he did his job poorly and that he was unethical. Those are two great reasons for him to be fired, don't you think? Do we have evidence that Comey was fired "for insisting to continue pursuing a serious investigation into the sanctity of our republic?" This seems like a flat out lie to me. We have a hostile foreign power attacking and undermining our electoral process. That is not normal. I don't see what this has to do with Trump. The U.S. meddles with elections in other countries to get the outcome we desire. It is not surprising that other countries would try to influence our elections. I don't think that Trump paid Russia to try to smear Mrs. Clinton's campaign. Is there evidence to the contrary? We have an Attorney General under a serious shadow of association with said foreign power, with indications that there is much more to this story than we yet know. That is not normal. Evidence please! "Association" is like "allegations". Let's see some evidence. Has anyone said yet what Trump hopes to gain by being so friendly with Putin? We have Federal judges, our closest foreign allies, and the free press under scurrilous attack from the President and his enablers. At the same time we have despots praised. That is not normal. "Scurrilous attack" that sounds really bad. Here is another gross exaggeration. I seem to remember some socialist leaders being praised in the last decade by a previous foreign leader. We have an Administration fanning the flames of division over race, ethnicity, religion, sexuality, and gender. That is not normal. This one may be the craziest yet. Fanning the flames how? Like lighting up the White House in rainbow colors? Please explain. We have an overhaul of our entire health care system being written in secret on a rapid time frame. That is not normal. Once again, HILARIOUS! Remember "We have to pass it so we can find out what's in it? We have a sordid confluence of the President's business interests and his political power. That is not normal. I completely agree with Rather on this one. Trump has more business interests than any other POTUS I can remember. This isn't normal. Of course, that is why he was elected. Do we have evidence that Trump is doing anything to help his business interests that is hurting the country? My problem with Rather's rant is that I still want to consider him to be a journalist. You know, like, there are two sides to every story, and I should probably have some evidence to support my claims. Things like that. To use Rather's wording, for a journalist, his post was "not normal." It makes me sad that this icon of journalism is willing to portray himself the way I perceive him to be from his post. It is similar to Trump tweeting stupid comments all of the time--the behavior is acceptable from a common citizen, but it is pathetic to be coming from the POTUS.

It is sad that Dan Rather, who used to be a news icon, is now a bitter liberal hack. His rant is pretty pathetic.

I don't really understand your point. Should the republican party have rejected Trump after he won the primary? That makes no sense. I also do not understand what "racist votes" means. Are you saying that the democrat candidate did not want anyone with racist tendencies to vote for her? Lastly, I disagree about voter turnout in 4 years. It will be fun to watch!

Interesting stats, but it is irrelevant in the sense that the U.S. incidents you mentioned have nothing to do with a religious ideology. Sure, angry U.S. people hurt more people than Muslim extremists. But heart disease kills more people than global warming. Does either comparison really mean anything?

Auburn seems to have a great crowd.

I agree. It was crazy that the CF got beat deep.

YES!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for getting things back on target. I am not trying to answer for Argo, but I don't think the point of the Christian organizations trying to help couples adopt children is to keep the children from having same sex parents. I think that the point of the organizations is to help kids find parents and help couples who want to be parents find kids. Helping kids find parents and helping couples adopt certainly can be seen as showing love for them. It certainly don't think it would be doing much good to shut down organizations who are trying to help orphans and couples.

Thank you for correcting me. My statement was wrong on that.

You are probably right that I am confusing comprehension with belief and am confused about many other things. Either way, whether I am a scientist or not or whether I am a crazy person or not, once I have experienced the supernatural then it would be completely illogical not to believe in the supernatural whether I comprehend it or not! I admire your ability to contort your beliefs to make yourself seem to be more open minded! I am open to a Creator and you are not. I am open to the supernatural and you are not. I am also open to science. Lastly, I apologize for being more threatening than you are!