Barnacle

Like I said man, I'm not disagreeing with you. I have no idea what the staff's actual intentions are for Joiner, but since his only snaps were (as far as I remember) as a running back, and as the coaches have stated many times that his primary role is running back, I'd say it's fair for people to think of him as a running back before they think of him as anything else. And, it makes sense to include him in conversations about RB depth.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just pointing out why other people assume, like I have, that he is primarily a running back.

Okay, but all of those articles quote our coaches as saying he will primarily play running back. Which sort of answers your question.

Thanks. I knew I was forgetting someone. I've also completely forgotten that Cox is a senior. That dude is going to be sorely missed.

I must have missed that part on Joiner. Weren't his only snaps this season as a RB?

What makes you think that Shivers doesn't have the ability to make defenders miss that our other backs do? I think you are underestimating him, especially if you are comparing him to Asa. Boobee will continue to be the "go-to" back that Malzahn desires in his offense. That leaves Shivers and Joiner. Shivers is immensely talented, as we saw this season and his role will likely increase next season. I'm not at all concerned about the two-deep. The question last year was "can Kmart be an every down back". We know now that the answer to that question doesn't really matter - because he isn't going to be an every down back for Gus Malzahn, barring injuries. Shivers passed him, and that just is what it is. I would imagine that he will continue to contribute in the same limited capacity that he did this season. Joiner certainly has potential, but it's hard to speculate when he barely touched the ball. As for incoming freshman? Who knows at this point. So we have: RB1: Whitlow RB2: Shivers RB3: Kam Martin OR Harold Joiner OR Incoming Freshman? It's not an absolute disaster, but injuries could become very problematic for us.

I don't care what happened, we can't afford to keep losing depth at the RB position. Asa has a really high ceiling, regardless of where he was on the depth chart last season. He was going to have a real opportunity to help next year.

Best buddy

I know you don't mean it literally, and I'm not in disagreement with the underlying point of your post, but let's not suggest that people do what you are suggesting. Many of us have lost close family members or friends that way, and it's not something that should be taken lightly.

Don't ever look him in the eye

I like it, but not sure we want to go with a coach named Denny...

Dilli dilli!

He's done a really, really good job at Memphis. Young guy rising through the ranks very quickly.

Another big hit to our RB depth, which was already concerning.

I think this is fair. You can have your player's best interests at heart, and still drop the ball. I don't know about the former, but someone definitely made a mistake here.