Proud Tiger

Only to a bammer. They think it's a chicken

But Huie's was long ago when they did mean something.

The captain of bama's 1958 FB team came to work for me soon after he graduated with a degree in ME. We got to be close friends and our kids grew up together in Huntsville. He told me a lot of stuff that only someone close to FB program would know. Believe me there was more serious stuff going on that what AU got penalized for. bama has bee cheating forever. my favorite article is one by William Bradford Huie in the old Collier's magazine. Huie is a Pulitzer Prize winner from Hartselle. Al who was at bama in 1942. It is in the board's Classics Forum but here is the link (I hope). I'm still looking forward to seeing you sometime when we go down to Pensacola Beach. I haven't forgot

You are right and Ohio State won the UPI /Coaches Poll. OS Coach Woody Hayes was pissed that AU won the AP poll (considered more prestigious)and mouthed of "Who have they played?"

we had another silly violation in that period. An ass't coach took a kid to a movie and paid for his ticket.....like 10 cents. Ridiculous. I am good friends with the Captain of bama's FB team Marlin (Scooter) Dyess. He came to work for me at NASA when he graduated. He scored the winning TD against us in Bryant's second year. Great guy and he told me all kinds of stuff about bama violations. He left us to go into partnership in a sporting goods business which was his dream. I'm sure you know Dyess-Hibbett.....now just Hibbetts.

Coach Hal Herring gave each of the Beaube twins $500 in 1955 and got caught. here is an article about it. http://patrickgarbin.blogspot.com/2012/03/ncaa-infraction-filled-history.html

Thanks. My posts in that long ago thread add details I didn't want go into in my earlier post in this thread. The key thing to me in all this is Auburn actually did the honorable thing. They could have easily told that Fuell's dad was a bootlegger and could have probably escaped probation. But then the dad would have gone to jail.

It is absolutely true. His name is Don Fuell, a QB from Guntersville. I wrote sports column for the Plainsman in 1957 and hence got to know all the coaches and players. bama was really pissed that they lost Fuell to Auburn. They sent two guys to Fuell's apt. posing as encyclopedia salesmen just to check it all out. I could tell you a lot more details about this deal but will leave it there. But it cemented my dislike for all things bama forever.

You usual cop out. But my bad for again engaging you in something.

Why am I surprised you think Trump's approval rating in other countries is relevant but not the approval rating of their own leaders. Most everyone knows Merkel, Macron, May, etc., are unpopular in their country

You only read what you want to. The OP title does say Europe because of the example I linked. BUT the first line says "just one example of how we are respected ABROAD" And you ignore my question about the approval ratings of other leaders in their own country because you know what the results are.

Don't know where you got that idea.

Not really anything new but just exposes the flow of dark money in secret in the swamp. Sadly it goes on on both sides and is part of the reason there are so many crooked politicians in the D.C. swamp. Just as sad is how the MSM pretty much ignores it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dark-money-network-left-wing

Nobody said they like us but they sure aren't pushing us around and laughing at our weakness as they have in the past. Look at how many foreign leaders have come to the WH in the last two years. Also I didn't limit the OP to Europe.....I said abroad. China sure ain't pushing us around these days. Why don't you post the approval ratings of the leaders of countries you list in their own country? But one thing is consistent.......Trump haters, including those here, aren't going to give him credit for anything. I can't wait to hear their howls and spin tomorrow when the Mueller report comes out.

Just one example of how we are now more respected abroad. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hungarys-top-diplomat-praises-trump-on-nato-push-contrasts-against-obama-era-lecturing