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  1. Maybe at least own up to how that could easily be misinterpreted? Maybe you can at least do that?
  2. I don't understand why these two sentences follow each other. You seem to have taken a very small exchange and extrapolated a lot of bad information from it. I guess we all jump to conclusions sometimes.
  3. I don't understand this at all. It doesn't presuppose anything extraordinary, and I highly doubt that any meaningful negative response to that tweet was targeted specifically at the words you cherrypicked from a tweet that said other things, also. (That isn't exactly arguing in good faith, either.) Regardless, I stated my thoughts on a different idea to the person I wished to address. It seems that side conversation has run its course. Perhaps someone else would like to have this separate conversation that you are seeking but, respectfully, I do not.
  4. Even the hype video that season has yet to be equaled.
  5. Define "almost universally". Maybe that almost excludes, ya know, trans people that didn't have a voice a few years ago? Maybe they, like other marginalized groups, have acquired more allies willing to advocate publicly for them in the years since? I guess I should make it clear that I'm not claiming anything here, just trying to help you find an answer to your question.
  6. Nor do I owe you any evidence. You approached me seeking my opinion on something and I gave it to you. The dictionary defines them very similarly, giving more weight to social and cultural differences with gender.
  7. No, but your entire premise is that a transgender person bringing it up in response to behaviors that are adjacent at worst to more obviously traumatic experiences is "emotional manipulation". I don't think it's a stretch to wonder just how hard you've tried to "grasp" or "think about" that person's point of view. Unless, of course, you have reason to believe that suicide isn't actually a major problem for the folks bringing it up in that manner.
  8. If you mistake anecdotes and tweets for the entire playing field- you know, rather than including laws and various forms of discrimination and bullying, lack of parental understanding, etc- then I can see how you think that. Couldn't have said it better myself. That whole bit about you trying to equate your religions beliefs to their fundamental understanding of their own bodies said it just as clearly. Except they've tried to argue their case based on science and common sense and people still think it's just a "belief". How long are they meant to just passively let the other side argue like children with hyperbole and straw men? As long as "grasping it" doesn't include "thinking about" why the word "suicide" keeps popping up? Or do you have data showing that claims of high suicide rates among transgender people aren't actually that high relative to other groups?
  9. That ties into a second response I was about to post: Actually, "Call yourself whatever you like" is a very backhanded concession. It's dismissive of the entire notion that some human beings are, mentally and emotionally- based on chemical activity in the brain- a gender other than the one they were anatomically assigned. As for transphobia, I don't know if it can be indicated by a simple lack of empathy or acceptance. But an argument can certainly be made that "...and I'm going to call you whatever I like" is implied in her tweet. That's her choice, and it's anyone else's choice not to buy her book. I'm not sure why you're asking, though. I made no claim that there's no inappropriate behavior coming from the "pro trans" side.
  10. I see anti-science. I don't have context to decide if it rises to the level of transphobia. And I don't know who Maya is or what her job is or was.
  11. Because you have skin in the game and understanding of their experiences, I guess? That's how you feel qualified to judge their participation in the conversation and declare your own- riddled with hyperbole, exaggeration and straw men (especially straw men in this thread)- to be superior? Let your convictions speak for themselves, maybe? Because all you're really doing is crying victim yourself. And make no mistake. It is not your convictions that I've taken issue with, other than thinking that boys think they're girls specifically because they were taught that's possible. That is profoundly primitive thinking. Perhaps you might get further by considering how society and religion have made us think it matters?
  12. I should have just quoted this, actually. You're literally doing it while complaining about it.
  13. Oh my goodness, no it's not. It's only that it's recently become a topic about which people feel safe advocating for themselves and others. So you're sticking with just the one group. Huh. Also, man, it's really bubbling up now, isn't it? I mean, you actually make some good points, but the problem is that you still can't recognize your hypocrisy regarding how the conversation is conducted. That's not what I claimed, so I'm not sure why you typed any of this. What I (quite plainly) said is that *not* being victimized by bigotry throws up some blinders in the more fortunate among us. No, you're off the rails about it because you spent that much time obsessing over something that doesn't affect you. And make no mistake, you are obsessed with these issues. I've shared this space with you long enough that I have a very informed opinion on that. And you just acknowledged that you spend a lot of time with it away from here. Again, not the issue here and I never said it was. So your response kind of proves the point I made when I brought up that meme you posted. Like I said, believe what you want, but do check those blind spots in terms of how you approach the conversation.
  14. Too bad it's not a conservative selling it as trickle up economics.
  15. Same selfishness and lack of empathy that drives a whole bunch of bad ideas. For whatever reason, a lot of humans' sense of self-preservation extends to denial of resources to other humans, even when it's not their own resources they're denying them.
  16. Holy s***, pun intended. You're literally going to argue sex as nurture over nature. Unreal. One group? Would that be the one trying to legislate the conversation away? It's always those who have never been victimized by bigotry saying things like this. Also, look who's trying to tell others how they can think and speak now. Check your blind spots. You're far better than most around here but for some reason you go completely off the rails on issues of gender and sexuality. I'll never know why but maybe one day you will.
  17. We have numerous people on this forum who swore that trump would honor the results of the election. They still refuse to acknowledge that they were wrong or how serious it is that so many Republican leaders and lawmakers participated in the attempt to overturn the election. It's the same thing. And one can only assume that they keep moving the goalposts because they are getting the results they've wanted all along.
  18. If that were the case, then I'd think they would have just given them the title as referenced in the Olympics metaphor. They should have sent it back to a vote. No guarantee the voters do the right thing with a second opportunity but it would have been the fair thing to do. Semi-random thought: I wonder what Oklahoma fans think about it? I wonder if they feel like they should get that title, or if they'd rather people just forget about how they got dragged in that game. God, it still makes me so made that they got voted in. I understand why it happened but it was such a blatant disregard for the purpose of the BCS system.
  19. This is wildly incorrect. You would have absolutely no concept of Christianity if it hadn't been taught to you. Now, many and maybe most humans do have a biological need to have answers for certain questions and to have meaning ascribed to their existence. That's the only possible explanation for religion being so prevalent throughout history, and also for the rich diversity of religions. How do people keep coming up with all these different gods to worship? Why do they all think they're right when it's clear that the vast majority of them aren't? (Which of course points to the extreme likelihood that they're *all* wrong, except *possibly* the general spiritualists who allow for the possibility of some supernatural force or power guiding existence. "This all couldn't have happened by chance", etc.) People just aren't comfortable with the idea that we're not special and that we're not going anywhere after this. So they look at the stars and make pictures. But you were not born a Christian any more than you were born an Auburn fan or a soccer antagonist. You learned those things from other people. That is not even remotely the same as being born with divergent chemical balances in your brain that lead to alternate gender identities. You might as well try to compare taste in music to eye color. And, on a level of presumption and self-delusion, you sound like one of those dog owners trying to claim it's the same as having a child.
  20. This is pretty hilarious given that meme you posted claiming that you're not allowed to have an opinion on abortion.
  21. On the former, I've heard a lot of versions of "men shouldn't be telling women...", which falls far shy of saying they can't have opinions. But I trust you've heard it stated otherwise and I admit to having filters just like any reasonable "opponent" in the conversation. As for the latter, I'm still going to characterize that as an extreme that just isn't a meaningful part of the discourse, thus rendering that meme more masturbatory than provocative. Good satire actually has something important to say.
  22. Not that it was directed at me, but I'm super okay with men having an informed opinion on abortion. As for the men having babies thing, that's the second time I've seen it mentioned since the leak broke. I don't recall having heard it mentioned at all (other than in philosophical conversations) and it's never been brought up by anyone I know as an important issue, so I'm curious that that's about?
  23. Somebody literally asked yesterday or the day before why we were getting pressure on the QB early against PSU and MSU but not later in the game.
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