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  1. Charlottesville: Race and Terror – VICE News

    The guy who said this: " I said America didn't have the moral high ground in WW2 and I have plenty of reasons for it. And all you have done is justify heinous war crimes and an unjust war. Small but non-exhaustive list of grievances: Unjust war" To describe WWII as an unjust war is just dispicable display of ignorance on the subject. It's a direct insult to the hundreds of thousands US servicemen - and women - who lost their lives in the conflict. It's a shameful display of ignorance. And you didn't respond directly to my question. Have you read any books on the subject? Assuming you haven't - which seems like a reasonable think I'd suggest you start with "The Fleet at Flood Tide: America at Total War in the Pacific" by James D Hornfischer and work your way backwards. Hornfischer is one of my favorite historian, as he writes so well. And this is his latest piece of work. There's a few more listed on this site you might want to try: I was going to ask you if you actually attended Auburn, but frankly I don't want to know. I'd rather keep assuming you didn't. I'm done - for real - this time. Enjoy your reading.
  2. Charlottesville: Race and Terror – VICE News

    I think you misunderstand what's going on here. I - for one - gave up on trying to educate you with the facts. My job is to keep exposing you as a fool for stubbornly denying them and continuing to post. A an proud Auburn grad (twice), I figure it's my responsibility to defend my school's reputation.
  3. Charlottesville: Race and Terror – VICE News

    Exactly. You have just described the rationale for using the bombs. We saved millions of lives by doing so. Have you read any books about the end of WWII? Can you site just one?
  4. Charlottesville: Race and Terror – VICE News

    Yes I do. I know a little about the circumstances of that decision and you obviously know NOTHING. And to suggest a forced starvation wouldn't have taken far more lives than a couple of atomic bombs is just stupid added to ignorance. Japan - and Germany - killed millions by using starvation of a weapon. But somehow it was going to be different for us. Q: What was the deadliest weapon of World War II? A: Starvation, which killed 20 million people Read more: Not only that, it was an option the US freely used, at least passively - by simply bypassing occupied islands knowing that resupply is out of the question. The suggestion we didn't fully understand what a forced starvation on the Japanese home islands would entail is the epitome of naivity. "Assumption" my ass. Ben is right when it comes to you. While you can literally be led to the information you lack, you're not gonna drink it. I am embarrassed you associate yourself with Auburn.
  5. Trump Soon to Resign?

    As with any celebrities, being POTUS natural comes with financial opportunities. Using the office to funnel income into pre-existing businesses is something else all together. But wasn't Trump supposed to drain the swamp? Despite promise to ‘drain the swamp,’ Trump administration waives ex-lobbyists into government THE 'SWAMP' DONALD TRUMP PROMISED TO 'DRAIN' IS GROWING AGAIN
  6. Trump Soon to Resign?

    That's just BS. A bankruptcy is demonstrated failure of your business plan. While some developers might eventually recover by demonstrating they a least tried to do the right thing when projects go sour, good developers dont run projects into bankruptcy over incompetence in the first place, which is exactly what Trump did with the Taj Mahal. The information is out there if you are interested. That's exactly why Trump had to turn to laundering Russian money. No one in the US would give him a loan after he demonstrated such strategic incompetence and blatant greed. Of course HE made out just fine, seeing as how he paid himself $40 million/year salary. For malfeasence. Any principal who uses bankruptcy to enrich himself at the expense of other people's money is an immoral scumbag. Of course, we already knew that. And no, I am not "jealous" of such a crook. I have all the money I need and I would never scam others to just get more.
  7. Trump Soon to Resign?

    Yeah, right. Resigning ethics director says Trump businesses appear to profit from presidency Trump details how he’s profiting off the presidency The president’s financial disclosure forms show where his profits have been boosted since he ran for office. Trump’s Interests vs. America’s, Dubai Edition Despite its pledge to avoid new foreign deals, the Trump Organization is moving forward with expansion plans in the United Arab Emirates. Donald Trump's profitable presidency Trump's Making More Money From Mar-A-Lago After Several Visits As President A Not-So-Friendly Reminder That the Trumps Are Profiting From the Presidency Profiting from the Presidency? Attorney Generals Allege Trump Is Profiting From Presidency Outgoing Office of Government Ethics chief Walter Shaub: 'There's an appearance' Trump is profiting from his presidency The US government has become the ultimate extension of Donald Trump's for-profit brand. I trust that's enough? It's just the first page of my search.
  8. Trump Soon to Resign?

    "The reason he's going to do that, as opposed to go through what could be an impeachment process or a continuing humiliation, is that he wants to figure out a way, as he has done all his career, to turn a loss into a victory. So he will declare victory when he leaves." If that's all it takes, we should guarantee him a ticker tape parade.
  9. That doesn't seem like a fair standard to me.
  10. Charlottesville: Race and Terror – VICE News

    No it's rational. To believe otherwise is a willful refusal understand the facts and circumstances. You have some sort of obsession with atomic weapons as being the ultimate evil but cannot seem to understand that every other option would have been worse. And it's not just a matter of shear ignorance. You have have flat out said options that would have killed millions of more people - such as forced starvation - would have been preferable from a moral standpoint. Not that's sick. Stupidly sick.
  11. This is very dangerous.

    It’s Not Just Trump, Federal Law Enforcement Is Not Very Focused On Far-Right Extremism Fewer resources are devoted to combating rising violence from white supremacists and far-right domestic terrorism. WASHINGTON ― The death of 32-year-old anti-racist protester Heather Heyerat the hands of a white supremacist on Saturday was the most recent of at least 65 fatal incidents perpetrated by right-wing extremists in the United States since the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The incident in Charlottesville is indicative of how far-right extremist violence has surged in the intervening years, as federal law enforcement efforts have shifted attention toward the threat posed by jihadist terrorism, former counter-terrorism officials and experts say. Conservative media and Republican politicians who oppose federal crackdowns on far-right extremist ideologues encouraged this shift, and presidents from both parties have acquiesced to the pressure. This process has only accelerated since the inauguration of President Donald Trump, who defended the white nationalist and white supremacist protesters who marched in Virginia, by saying there were some good people among them and equating them with anti-racist counter-protesters. The president and his aides support gutting efforts to counter violent extremism stemming from white supremacy and other racist ideologies in order to divert funding to anti-jihadist measures. The administration has already cut funding to the group Life After Hate, which works to rehabilitate white supremacists. “There’s been a clear signal by this administration that they don’t want to spend any money or resources on countering white terrorism,” Daryl Johnson, who led a Department of Homeland Security task force focused on domestic extremism and terrorism from 2004-2010, told HuffPost. The Trump administration’s effort to de-emphasize the threat of domestic right-wing terrorism is part of a trend: Over the past 16 years, presidents from both parties have redirected law enforcement resources away from monitoring right-wing extremists to focus on groups like ISIS and Al-Qaeda. At the same time, violent incidents, including murders, committed by far-right extremists continued to rise. Studies from the University of Maryland, New America Foundation, Southern Poverty Law Center, Combating Terrorism Center at West Point and the Department of Homeland Security highlight the continued danger of right-wing domestic terrorism. Prior to the attacks in San Bernardino and Orlando, right-wing extremist attacks had killed more Americans than extremist attacks by Muslims in the years since 9/11. “It’s a major mistake, in my view, to defund programs and efforts which help to expose and reform white supremacists,” said Todd Blodgett, a conservative Republican and former FBI source who worked undercover in white supremacist extremist groups. “It required effort to brainwash these bigots, and effort is needed to get them out of the realm of racist hatred. Having worked for Ronald Reagan and the first President Bush, including in the White House, I know they’d agree.” But the shift in resources wasn’t entirely attributable to the understandable fear of a repeat of the 9/11 attacks. Right-wing radio, Fox News, and Republican Party lawmakers fought a years-long campaign against efforts by federal law enforcement to monitor right-wing extremists and prevent them from turning violent. Blodgett points to the reaction and ultimate retraction of a 2009 Department of Homeland Security report on the increasing threat of right-wing extremist terrorism. That report was written by Johnson and his small team at DHS that monitored and countered violent extremism from domestic, non-jihadist sources. The team, constituted during the George W. Bush administration, included individuals monitoring white supremacists, anti-abortion extremists, animal rights activists, environmental terrorists and other domestic groups. Its 2009 report concluded that the economic collapse and the election of the first African-American president could fuel a surge in recruitment for white supremacist groups and lead to an uptick in violence. The report also warned that right-wing extremist groups sought to recruit returning veterans of the of the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But as a result of conservative outrage, DHS gutted Johnson’s team, cut the number of people investigating domestic extremism, canceled briefings for state and local law enforcement and blocked the release of more reports on domestic extremist groups. The department “has never reconstituted that effort,” Johnson told HuffPost. JOSHUA ROBERTS / REUTERS White supremacists gather under a statue of Robert E. Lee during a rally in Charlottesville, Virginia last weekend. “There was nothing in that report that was wrong,” Blodgett said. “It was wrong of [the Obama administration] to be cowed by the groups putting pressure on them over that. As a card-carrying Republican conservative I can tell you this, this kind of stuff has got to be drummed out of any coalition that is part of any Republican campaign.” A 2012 report by Arie Perliger for the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point came to the similar conclusion that far-right terrorism was on the rise. It too was denounced by conservative media. In the ensuing years, right-wing extremist violence jumped, just as predicted by Johnson’s DHS report. According to the New America Foundation, 10 people were killed by far-right terrorist violence from 2001 through 2008. Since then, right-wing extremists have murdered 55 people in violent attacks in the U.S. Since DHS ended its program, federal law enforcement actions related to domestic right-wing extremism now primarily rest with the FBI and the Joint Terrorism Task Force, although both organizations have limited resources devoted to these efforts. Nonetheless, DHS and the FBI in May issued a joint bulletin warning about the potential threat of violence from right wing extremists, according to Foreign Policy. Michael German, a former FBI undercover agent and now a fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice’s Liberty and National Security Program, felt that the 2009 report overemphasized the way in which the ideology of right-wing groups turned individuals violent rather than attracting individuals who were looking for a justification for their desire to commit acts of violence. Still, German says that the coordination between federal and local enforcement ― a recommendation of the report ― could improve, particularly in the wake of recent white supremacist and white nationalist protests in cities that have devolved into violent battles and near riots with little police supervision. It’s not just the violence the nation saw in Charlottesville, but also right-wing protests in Berkeley, Sacramento, Portland and Huntington Beach, where police took a hands-off approach. In Portland and Huntington Beach, police even allowed the right-wing protesters to “arrest” counter-protesters and drag them over to the police. PATRICK FALLON / REUTERS Pro-Trump protesters, with white supremacists and neo-Nazis among them, fought with counter-protesters in March 2017 in Huntington Beach, California. “That is extremely dangerous,” German said. “To give these groups the idea that their violence is sanctioned by the state will make them far more violent and far more dangerous in the long run. Not to mention the failing to police these running street battles will encourage them to come to the next protest prepared.” The comments made by the president in defense of certain attendees of the violent white supremacist protest in Charlottesville suggest his administration will not put pressure on law enforcement groups to changes focus, especially as administration aides continue to openly dismiss the threat posed by far-right extremism. White House adviser Sebastian Gorka recently pushed aside concerns that white supremacist extremists are a problem in the U.S. “It’s this constant, ‘Oh, it’s the white man. It’s the white supremacists. That’s the problem.’ No, it isn’t,” he said on Breitbart News Daily, a radio show from the media company that used to employ him. “You have the issue of Trump kind of pandering to these groups during his election campaign and taking some of their ideas and mainstreaming them into his policies,” Johnson said. “He’s got a block out there that, I guess, that he’s beholden to.” By Paul Blumenthal
  12. Charlottesville: Race and Terror – VICE News

    The argument started because I said America didn't have the moral high ground in WW2 and I have plenty of reasons for it. And all you have done is justify heinous war crimes and an unjust war. Small but non-exhaustive list of grievances: Unjust war Well folks, you heard it hear first: America participated in an 'unjust war" in WWII in which we didn't have the moral highground. That's really all we need to know about Jeff. But I have to admit, I heard it hear first. No one shares that opinion. Pure wacko.
  13. OK you're right. People speaking out against white supremacy are doing so only because they dislike Trump. Otherwise Nazis would be very popular. Ironic, coming from someone who just said the opposition to white supremacists is on dislike of Trump.
  14. Charles Barkley on monuments

    Certainly not you!