NCAA investigating AU?

[jordanharehaint 16]

Finebaum in perspective.

He looks like a prairie dog wearing a clown suit.

[AUPAC 0]

If there is enough smoke there's gotta be a fire some where. Sure other schools may do it but, if we're caught, we're caught. Doesn't matter whoelse is doing it, until they're the one under the gun its moot.

I'm ready for this wretched season to be over. I'm ready for this coaching staff to be gone. I still love my time at Auburn but, I'm really beginning to hate our athletic department and university leadership.

Why would they take out the cheating clause when they negotiated the extension? There maybe a rational explanation but to me that sounds fishy.

[Browning4AU 405]

Sent a twitter message to ST and he said it's mostly just REC media blowing something up. Honestly, I've never known ST to steer us wrong so I'll trust that.

[johnjacob 44]

Interviewing bama players for "honest" answers about Auburn is like interviewing IRAN for honest answers about the United States. I don't think the NCAA did this, but if they did Auburn needs to raise hell. I don't think for one minute Auburn leaked this information to kill Chizik's buyout. The AL media remains shameless and takes a page out of the 2010 smear campaign book. When are we going to reach the point where it is time to drop a dime on bama and see it through ?

War Eagle !

It would make sense to leak it to make it seem like Petrino was the best we could do, because of it. A lot of holier than thous have made it difficult for the administration to hire the right man for the job, because of the holier than thou's hypocritical religious views.

I am absolutely not a hypocrite,just a sinner. I do not want a "preacher" for a coach. I want a COACH. Tony Dungy won a super bowl. With the way you hate religious people,I'm sure he wouldn't be good enough for you. Nor would Tom Landry.Or Shug. Or Mark Richt. I don't know a whole lot of christians that I am worried about or scared of. I know of a lot of non christians and non-moral people that will kill you for a gold necklace (Oakland paper today). Why don't you give your christian bashing a rest?

I'm doing what Joshua Bin Joseph did-calling out hypocrites. I don't hate religious people at all. I knew Pat Nix when we were at AU and respected him very much, because he was not a hypocrite. He did not throw stones and lived what he preached. One of my best friends growing up is a Baptist minister/missionary and I respect him, because he lives what he preaches. Go read the Bible and see Jesus called folks out left and right, who played the "I'm holier than thou" schtick when in truth they were petty & selfish. By the way hate is your word. I just like taking the piss with church ladies like you. Seriously only Christians are moral? Are you really that daft? Yeah that Ghandi guy was such a murderous thug! (sarcasm)

[aubratgyrl 0]

I am not happy to hear about the possibility of a bad investigation outcome, however one thing for my family has been true since 1979 when I first moved to the state. I BELIEVE IN AUBURN AND LOVE IT!

[leglessdan 1,934]

Finebaum in perspective.

He looks like a prairie dog wearing a clown suit.

That's funny right there!...Ahahaha

[aubfaninga 16]

Interviewing bama players for "honest" answers about Auburn is like interviewing IRAN for honest answers about the United States. I don't think the NCAA did this, but if they did Auburn needs to raise hell. I don't think for one minute Auburn leaked this information to kill Chizik's buyout. The AL media remains shameless and takes a page out of the 2010 smear campaign book. When are we going to reach the point where it is time to drop a dime on bama and see it through ?

War Eagle !

It would make sense to leak it to make it seem like Petrino was the best we could do, because of it. A lot of holier than thous have made it difficult for the administration to hire the right man for the job, because of the holier than thou's hypocritical religious views.

I am absolutely not a hypocrite,just a sinner. I do not want a "preacher" for a coach. I want a COACH. Tony Dungy won a super bowl. With the way you hate religious people,I'm sure he wouldn't be good enough for you. Nor would Tom Landry.Or Shug. Or Mark Richt. I don't know a whole lot of christians that I am worried about or scared of. I know of a lot of non christians and non-moral people that will kill you for a gold necklace (Oakland paper today). Why don't you give your christian bashing a rest?

I'm doing what Joshua Bin Joseph did-calling out hypocrites. I don't hate religious people at all. I knew Pat Nix when we were at AU and respected him very much, because he was not a hypocrite. He did not throw stones and lived what he preached. One of my best friends growing up is a Baptist minister/missionary and I respect him, because he lives what he preaches. Go read the Bible and see Jesus called folks out left and right, who played the "I'm holier than thou" schtick when in truth they were petty & selfish. By the way hate is your word. I just like taking the piss with church ladies like you. Seriously only Christians are moral? Are you really that daft? Yeah that Ghandi guy was such a murderous thug! (sarcasm)

If I can add just one thing,

Once a christian judges another person, are they still a christian?

From what I have read on this subject not many people have the "God given right" to judge.

[TigerPharm04 0]

Same old thing Updykes cheat Auburn gets investigated, been that way as long as I can remember. I hope they get what they richly deserve very soon.

They just spent nearly 20 years on probation. What are you hoping for, the death penalty? Come on bro. Im sure they have gotten away with some shady business, but they arent winning games because they cheat. That's not realistic at all.

First , how do you think they got the talent to win these games , have you not seen all the violations in the past few years, free suits, selling books, fishing trips, hiding recruits in condos until signing day? Just a few, and since I never saw you sitting at our dinner table when I was kid- I am sure I'm not your "BRO"!

mod edit: That won't fly here. Don't do that again

Ok you are right.. Alabama is on this run because their players sold their text books, they let guys who were already on the team go on a fishing trip, and their star players got free suits. That is why they are probably gonna play for their 3rd title in 4 years... And that's why we suck so bad this year..

Starters that had their HS grades changed at the bequest of $puat coaches, recruiting players by setting family up in houses, cars and jobs...yeah, none of that stuff gives them any recruiting advantage.

those all sound very damning, and your presentation is convincing, but the rumor and speculation about $puat players and coaches is no different than the rumors and speculation that those turds spread about us. I know that's not fun to admit, but it's no different. It's more fun to say they cheat and we would be beating them if they didn't cheat, but I just think it's their time. You do know that they think EXACTLY the same things about Auburn right? It's been that way for years. People spread these rumors for years and years, and when something happens like Dye/Ramsey, or Albert Means with the turds, everyone says "see I told you so...we've been right the whole time."

They swear up and down that AU cheats to get recruits, so when the Jovon Robinson situation comes up, they immediately feel validated. Truth is, very little cheating goes on. This is real life, not some SMU 30 for 30. If believing otherwise helps you feel better about our struggles, then so be it. But I'm actually pretty connected...including a couple of connections on The Plains.. Even in Tuscaloserville. And 99 percent of these theories are total BS. People in the know at these schools find most of this stuff comical.

[aubfaninga 16]

I live in Memphis. This is old recycled news. We are in the clear. No one here is talking about this.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THIS POST WAS COMPLETELY

IGNORED???

[CircleDrill 178]

Kind of getting off topic here, so let me re-direct:

• There is nothing new in this Yahoo article or anything else that has come out recently to my knowledge.
  
• I DO NOT believe this is re-surfacing due to Auburn trying to get out of paying buyouts.
  
• I DO NOT believe this is the REC trying to smear Auburn.
  
• I DO BELIEVE because of timing, that this article is Auburn getting in a position to clean house from AD through the water boys.
  

I fully support a clean sweep even to the degree that a clean sweep followed by a winless season in 2013 would still be the right move. This article and some of the "new" stuff that may come out in the news is likely posturing for leverage to make the moves regardless of outcome of the IB (this explains timing).

We are at a crossroads, ladies and gentlemen. And the fate of the next decades of this program will be decided within the next few days. We're either going to remain a good ole boy or we're going to be a winner. It's that simple. This article coming out now gives me hope that we are going to do it right and go for the clean sweep.

[AUloggerhead 2,225]

A U-Dub co-worker came up to me at work this p.m. and asked about the news of AU being under investigation by the NCAA (i hadn't seen any news yet.) My exact reaction: "For what -- impersonating a real Div-1 college football team?" When he told me it was about a recruit getting a grade changed, I told him it's kind of old news.

Still can't understand how uat isn't under investigation for steering a recruit to attend Foley HS for his senior season.

[auballtheway 0]

if there is a break bama is going to get it /////

[herktiger 0]

A U-Dub co-worker came up to me at work this p.m. and asked about the news of AU being under investigation by the NCAA (i hadn't seen any news yet.) My exact reaction: "For what -- impersonating a real Div-1 college football team?" When he told me it was about a recruit getting a grade changed, I told him it's kind of old news.

Still can't understand how uat isn't under investigation for steering a recruit to attend Foley HS for his senior season.

Pharm, we all know people. If you really want to stand by your "99%" comment, then you may want to first take a closer look at the recruiting pipelines that uat sets up at a particular HS based on thier "reliability" to cover for grade issues. Fluker and Paige are just two that have been "guided" to Foley HS, for example. I have to laugh at your comment also when you see players with no explainable source of income driving around in personalized $35-50K cars. I talked to someone recently who is a personal friend of Julio's in ATL and when I said, "come on, we all know what was going on at Foley," they said to me, "yeah, he has talked about it, but you have to understand, he had nothing," to justify providing illegal benefits. From my perspective, the primary work the REC does is well before the kids make it to campus. They just make sure the right kids "decide" to go to uat and their job is mostly done once they sign the LOI. After that, the coaching staff takes over. Of course, the cars, suits, house sitting jobs, untraceable cash, etc., still flow for sure. But the signees no longer have the same freedom of latitude they had as recruits.

I've always said uat will not be taken down by the NCAA. It is a lot like the argument that Washington made about the big banks or big carmakers, "they're too big to let fail." And with Saban's LSU buddy Emmert in charge, you can be assured that they are looking the other way instinctually. I think the only way uat gets taken down in the foreseeable future is by the feds and it would likely be related to tax evasion or money laundering type charges. Uat owns everyone from the local sheriff's and DA's to the state attorney general's office to the governor. But they don't own the federal government, and I've often thought some day a gumshoe from the FBI named Flannagan who wears shamrock boxers and roots for Notre Dame will bring a task force into T-loser and set up shop after turning over a few rocks and finding some snakes. And then, only then, would the NCAA absolutely have to take action. Maybe that will be this spring if they're good and pissed off about the outcome of the BCS NC game...hey, a man can dream can't he?!?

[oxford tiger12 0]

The way I see it is we need to worry about our on backyard and not bama's. If we have a mess let's clean it up and quick worrying about what some other school may or may not be doing. The NCAA doesn't really have it in for anybody and they don't play favorites. We like to believe they do because that makes us feel better about ourselves.

Sorry, but it has been proven the NCAA does play favorites. bammer has had 20, 25, or 30 potential violations under Saban alone and the NCAA has looked the other way. You can also find evidence of LSU dealing with street agents and such, and the NCAA has looked the other way on that issue as well. What do the bammers and corndogs have in common? Mark Emmert was the school president at LSU while Saban was their football coach

You can spare me the usual denials Tiger Pharm 04, because I recognize you for the bammer you are and your denials mean nothing to me

[im4aual 486]

I wish it was already August

[TastesLikeChicken 0]

This seems simply like an investigation by the NCAA. Somehow they received tips that some players were getting special treatment, that's my only questions is why news articles now and how did the NCAA find out? I don't think this is a conspiracy from the Gumps or from Auburn positioning itself to clean house. I don't believe there is a "no-pay clause" to the coaches if the program is under investigation, that's BS. I think everyone needs to chill out.

[AU64 10,122]

I thought when I woke up today this would be gone.

Seems to me this is 2010 all over except Chiz is the target instead of Cam...but the same protagonists, same kind of unproven rumors and comments, same Bama sycophants in the state press/media pushing it along, the same guys at ESPN and SI re-hashing old news over the banner "breaking news".....and the same panic stricken AU "faithful" running for the hills. 2010 redux.

Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone.

[oxford tiger12 0]

This seems simply like an investigation by the NCAA. Somehow they received tips that some players were getting special treatment, that's my only questions is why news articles now and how did the NCAA find out? I don't think this is a conspiracy from the Gumps or from Auburn positioning itself to clean house. I don't believe there is a "no-pay clause" to the coaches if the program is under investigation, that's BS. I think everyone needs to chill out.

The question still remains why is the NCAA investigating this situation but not situations that appeared to be more serious at other schools. A former Texas A&M assistant coach claims a street agent named Willie Lyles wanted 80k in return for Patrick Peterson's commitment. Of course, he eventually ended up at LSU. WIllies Lyles has also admitted to escorting recruits to LSU's campus and has been pictured doing the same. If the NCAA ever spent two seconds investigating these situations, I must have missed it

Bammer players have been pictured driving SUV's, going out to dinner dates with boosters, flying on private jets to Tuscaloser, and taking money from sports agents. Yet the NCAA basically seems to have taken bammers word that no violations were commited in these situations, or the violations were only secondary in nature

[around4ever 4,139]

There is a reason that Luper and Trooper were yanked from the recruiting fields.....

On the brighter side, if something comes of this we get to fire Chizik without paying that attrocious buyout.

Edit: After reading the post above mine....well s***....just s***....guess there is nothing positive that can possibly come out of this one. If we are guilty we get punished....if we are innocent we still get the stigma of being guilty since everyone already thinks we are dirty and we have more public investigations against us then anyone I know.

Does anybody know for a fact that Trooper and Luper were pulled off the recruiting trail? All I have seen were allegations that they were but nothing definitive.

[NCTiger 0]

I thought when I woke up today this would be gone.

Seems to me this is 2010 all over except Chiz is the target instead of Cam...but the same protagonists, same kind of unproven rumors and comments, same Bama sycophants in the state press/media pushing it along, the same guys at ESPN and SI re-hashing old news over the banner "breaking news".....and the same panic stricken AU "faithful" running for the hills. 2010 redux.

Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone.

Amen 64 ! Happy TG to you and yours.

War Eagle !

[around4ever 4,139]

A U-Dub co-worker came up to me at work this p.m. and asked about the news of AU being under investigation by the NCAA (i hadn't seen any news yet.) My exact reaction: "For what -- impersonating a real Div-1 college football team?" When he told me it was about a recruit getting a grade changed, I told him it's kind of old news.

Still can't understand how uat isn't under investigation for steering a recruit to attend Foley HS for his senior season.

This is disturbing on several levels. The player/student was ineligible to participate in athletics at Washington HS in Pensacola. AHSAA rules state that in the case of a transfer for the player/student to be eligible at his new school, he must have been eligible at his old school. FAIL. Not much attention has been given to the fact that Pruett told the player/student to transfer to Foley, they could make him eligible. The player's mom and previous coach have both stated that publicly. If Auburn had initiated this transfer we would be under the biggest investigation we have ever seen. it would be in the news daily.

[NCTiger 0]

Not that I wish anything bad to happen to Oregon, but that Lyles story came out during the same time as our Cam/Auburn smearfest. There were pictures of Chip's hand written note to Lyles and questions around fees for tapes & reports of recruits. I think one issue was NOT having proof of actual "service" meaning it was payment was for steering players to Oregon, not providing recuiting information. My point is this situation even had visual proof (sort of like t-town menswear pics) and enough smoke to start an investigation, but we still have not heard of any on campus interviews like our this week. Obviously if the NCAA is on campus the local media will cover this and should, but you have to love how THOROUGH the media is (especially AL media) when it comes to Auburn. I promise you if saban was Auburn's HC the NCAA would have been on Auburn's campus long ago and multiple times. The song remains the same.

War Eagle !

[TitanTiger 20,463]

There is a reason that Luper and Trooper were yanked from the recruiting fields.....

On the brighter side, if something comes of this we get to fire Chizik without paying that attrocious buyout.

Edit: After reading the post above mine....well s***....just s***....guess there is nothing positive that can possibly come out of this one. If we are guilty we get punished....if we are innocent we still get the stigma of being guilty since everyone already thinks we are dirty and we have more public investigations against us then anyone I know.

Does anybody know for a fact that Trooper and Luper were pulled off the recruiting trail? All I have seen were allegations that they were but nothing definitive.

It's been confirmed by Jay Tate and Phillip Marshall.

[RBCAubie 3]

Interviewing bama players for "honest" answers about Auburn is like interviewing IRAN for honest answers about the United States. I don't think the NCAA did this, but if they did Auburn needs to raise hell. I don't think for one minute Auburn leaked this information to kill Chizik's buyout. The AL media remains shameless and takes a page out of the 2010 smear campaign book. When are we going to reach the point where it is time to drop a dime on bama and see it through ?

War Eagle !

It would make sense to leak it to make it seem like Petrino was the best we could do, because of it. A lot of holier than thous have made it difficult for the administration to hire the right man for the job, because of the holier than thou's hypocritical religious views.

I am absolutely not a hypocrite,just a sinner. I do not want a "preacher" for a coach. I want a COACH. Tony Dungy won a super bowl. With the way you hate religious people,I'm sure he wouldn't be good enough for you. Nor would Tom Landry.Or Shug. Or Mark Richt. I don't know a whole lot of christians that I am worried about or scared of. I know of a lot of non christians and non-moral people that will kill you for a gold necklace (Oakland paper today). Why don't you give your christian bashing a rest?

I'm doing what Joshua Bin Joseph did-calling out hypocrites. I don't hate religious people at all. I knew Pat Nix when we were at AU and respected him very much, because he was not a hypocrite. He did not throw stones and lived what he preached. One of my best friends growing up is a Baptist minister/missionary and I respect him, because he lives what he preaches. Go read the Bible and see Jesus called folks out left and right, who played the "I'm holier than thou" schtick when in truth they were petty & selfish. By the way hate is your word. I just like taking the piss with church ladies like you. Seriously only Christians are moral? Are you really that daft? Yeah that Ghandi guy was such a murderous thug! (sarcasm)

Despite your denial, you sure as heck do a fine job of displaying a disdain for Christians.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

Interviewing bama players for "honest" answers about Auburn is like interviewing IRAN for honest answers about the United States. I don't think the NCAA did this, but if they did Auburn needs to raise hell. I don't think for one minute Auburn leaked this information to kill Chizik's buyout. The AL media remains shameless and takes a page out of the 2010 smear campaign book. When are we going to reach the point where it is time to drop a dime on bama and see it through ?

War Eagle !

It would make sense to leak it to make it seem like Petrino was the best we could do, because of it. A lot of holier than thous have made it difficult for the administration to hire the right man for the job, because of the holier than thou's hypocritical religious views.

I am absolutely not a hypocrite,just a sinner. I do not want a "preacher" for a coach. I want a COACH. Tony Dungy won a super bowl. With the way you hate religious people,I'm sure he wouldn't be good enough for you. Nor would Tom Landry.Or Shug. Or Mark Richt. I don't know a whole lot of christians that I am worried about or scared of. I know of a lot of non christians and non-moral people that will kill you for a gold necklace (Oakland paper today). Why don't you give your christian bashing a rest?

I'm doing what Joshua Bin Joseph did-calling out hypocrites. I don't hate religious people at all. I knew Pat Nix when we were at AU and respected him very much, because he was not a hypocrite. He did not throw stones and lived what he preached. One of my best friends growing up is a Baptist minister/missionary and I respect him, because he lives what he preaches. Go read the Bible and see Jesus called folks out left and right, who played the "I'm holier than thou" schtick when in truth they were petty & selfish. By the way hate is your word. I just like taking the piss with church ladies like you. Seriously only Christians are moral? Are you really that daft? Yeah that Ghandi guy was such a murderous thug! (sarcasm)

Despite your denial, you sure as heck do a fine job of displaying a disdain for Christians.

Sorry to interrupt but, I was reminded of a great quote from Ghandi. Something to the effect of, "I love your Christ but I am not so sure about your Christians". I don't believe he was making as much of a statement about Christianity as he was hypocrisy.