Dual-Threat Rigby 8,641 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Ridiculous. I am ashamed of some AU "fans". It's a game. Supposed to be fun. Calm down You keep on saying that while pumping loads of skewed sunshine, but I'm not protecting this disgusting defense performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I understand you are upset up but I think you are overreacting. 1. Texas A&M was not as bad as everyone thought they were. 2. Our defense is awful but that is not entirely EJ's fault. Players have to execute. Players have to make tackles. D line has to be more physical. Coaches do not suit up and coaches do not play one single snap. I blame the poor execution, for the most part, on the players, not the coaches. 3. Losing Duke in the first half is NOT why the offense was unable to pull this one out. See #2 above. 4. Agree. The sun will still rise tomorrow. Calm down. Texas A&M got shut out against Alabama and almost lost to ULM, shut up. And obviously Sumlin worked on getting his team's issues fixed. They have improved with experience Walking through the SEC fire while getting burned made them grow up, along with superior coaching. Shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual-Threat Rigby 8,641 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 To be a top caliber defense you need top talent. Out of our starting defense lineup, tell me who we have that will get drafted? Not sure we have any other than MA. Maybe a couple of late round draft picks but that is it. Just watch our players that's all on the staff and development, that's a team of 4 and 5 stars, no one is feeling sorry for Johnson and that staff for lack of talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerman1186 537 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 We will come back…yes it hurts, but I swear it hurts a lot more to the players and coaches….we have becomes 'spoiled' over our success, TAM had a good week to get ready with their freshman QB….the problem was we allowed them to be in the game when they went up 14-0, we never got the lead, even though we all thought we were going to put the go ahead TD before the fumble exchange….WDE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytonAU 4,606 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Time to take a break from the football forums after this. See y'all soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausoldiergrad 57 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 To be a top caliber defense you need top talent. Out of our starting defense lineup, tell me who we have that will get drafted? Not sure we have any other than MA. Maybe a couple of late round draft picks but that is it. Just watch our players Mckenzie, and maybe therezie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoALtiger 3,849 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 The defense stinks but has since 2009-under multiple coordinators and head coaches. It's not all on EJ but the buck stops there. It's getting really frustrating to think that we have to score every possession to win a game against a decent opponent. ^^This^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 No sec no national. Why? No defense. Wasted the effort of great offense. This team put 21,yes 21 on L Monroe last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToraGirl 5,498 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Time to take a break from the football forums after this. See y'all soon. Thought about that myself, ClaytonAU, but if you have perspective to shine, stay on and tuned in. We need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,223 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 It's possible our guys were looking ahead. Rediculous.we still should have won regardless of how bad the defense is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal03 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'm not about to dump on Dismukes, he's a kid, and kids make mistakes. No need to crucify them for it, or even bring it up again. So I won't. But I'll stay civil and say that I am not a fan of the Ellis Johnson scheme. I don't believe it works, and I'd like to see it replaced. Before next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 The defense stinks but has since 2009-under multiple coordinators and head coaches. It's not all on EJ but the buck stops there. It's getting really frustrating to think that we have to score every possession to win a game against a decent opponent. ^^This^^ They were starting a new QB and had the plainest of plain vanilla offenses last week. I think some folks forget who the coach on the other side of the field is.....no slouch and the QB was the #1 recruit in the nation by many sources. Only the clueless think that TAMU has no offense or that Sumlin does not know how to coach. JMO since this is a forum of opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 The defense stinks but has since 2009-under multiple coordinators and head coaches. It's not all on EJ but the buck stops there. It's getting really frustrating to think that we have to score every possession to win a game against a decent opponent. ^^This^^ They were starting a new QB and had the plainest of plain vanilla offenses last week. I think some folks forget who the coach on the other side of the field is.....no slouch and the QB was the #1 recruit in the nation by many sources. Only the clueless think that TAMU has no offense or that Sumlin does not know how to coach. JMO since this is a forum of opinions. I agree. That's what I have been saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Brown 2,391 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Why can't people talk about obvious reasons that our 4 and 5 star players on defense are not translating that talent on the field? IT has to be the scheme, coaches, etc. There was a reason that Southern Miss went for 0-12. The October 20, 2012, Marshall game resulted in the most points scored against USM at home since 1987 according to his wikipedia page. I just believe there are better coaches out there, that can do a better job with this talent. I don't look for any improvements until that change is made. I was never excited about that hire and he may well be Gus' Achilles heel going forward. IF we had a decent defense, nothing aimed at the players, we would be contending for the playoffs every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juscAUse 1 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Did Sumnlin coach in the losses? I love you guys, but dang it, this is not good. Tubberville had a rogue game or three when we forgot how to play defense. Three years? Or more. We can be better. Everybody else is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aucanucktiger 1,789 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I don't care if I get banned. Ellis needs to go! his defense is predictable and hes constantly searching for answers. Offenses are always two moves ahead of him. The offensive mistakes are unfortunate but they played good enough. The defense has gotten worse throughout the year. Constantly out of position and is getting beaten by the same plays week after week....embarrassing. A&M only beat LA Monroe 21-16 and were out gained by 100 yards. Then they come into Jordan-Hare and win! That is inexcusable!!!! I believe more than just Ellis need to be given the boot. Ellis would be a good and logical start. I've endured many personal insults on this board for questioning Johnson, most by resident expert long time posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,362 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Did Sumnlin coach in the losses? I love you guys, but dang it, this is not good. Tubberville had a rogue game or three when we forgot how to play defense. Three years? Or more. We can be better. Everybody else is. Tuberville was the last time we had what one would consider a "good" defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,817 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Championship teams don't make boneheaded mistakes like dumb penalties and also missing out on so many big plays. Its just the truth. This year's team just had too many holes to be a championship football team. I hope that the penalties are not going to be a sign of things to come from the Gus regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Did Sumnlin coach in the losses? I love you guys, but dang it, this is not good. Tubberville had a rogue game or three when we forgot how to play defense. Three years? Or more. We can be better. Everybody else is. I don't think that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,362 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I don't care if I get banned. Ellis needs to go! his defense is predictable and hes constantly searching for answers. Offenses are always two moves ahead of him. The offensive mistakes are unfortunate but they played good enough. The defense has gotten worse throughout the year. Constantly out of position and is getting beaten by the same plays week after week....embarrassing. A&M only beat LA Monroe 21-16 and were out gained by 100 yards. Then they come into Jordan-Hare and win! That is inexcusable!!!! I believe more than just Ellis need to be given the boot. Ellis would be a good and logical start. I've endured many personal insults on this board for questioning Johnson, most by resident expert long time posters. Well, believe it or not, but I'm finally in agreement with your assessment of Ellis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Championship teams don't make boneheaded mistakes like dumb penalties and also missing out on so many big plays. Its just the truth. This year's team just had too many holes to be a championship football team. I hope that the penalties are not going to be a sign of things to come from the Gus regime. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual-Threat Rigby 8,641 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 I understand you are upset up but I think you are overreacting. 1. Texas A&M was not as bad as everyone thought they were. 2. Our defense is awful but that is not entirely EJ's fault. Players have to execute. Players have to make tackles. D line has to be more physical. Coaches do not suit up and coaches do not play one single snap. I blame the poor execution, for the most part, on the players, not the coaches. 3. Losing Duke in the first half is NOT why the offense was unable to pull this one out. See #2 above. 4. Agree. The sun will still rise tomorrow. Calm down. Texas A&M got shut out against Alabama and almost lost to ULM, shut up. And obviously Sumlin worked on getting his team's issues fixed. They have improved with experience Walking through the SEC fire while getting burned made them grow up, along with superior coaching. Shut up. Oh so those issues turned TAMU from being the worst team in the west to kicking around Auburn AT HOME? You really prepared to say we just didn't choke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,223 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Why can't people talk about obvious reasons that our 4 and 5 star players on defense are not translating that talent on the field? IT has to be the scheme, coaches, etc. There was a reason that Southern Miss went for 0-12. The October 20, 2012, Marshall game resulted in the most points scored against USM at home since 1987 according to his wikipedia page. I just believe there are better coaches out there, that can do a better job with this talent. I don't look for any improvements until that change is made. I was never excited about that hire and he may well be Gus' Achilles heel going forward. IF we had a decent defense, nothing aimed at the players, we would be contending for the playoffs every year. I don't think we have those guys in key positions. Especially on corner and safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual-Threat Rigby 8,641 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Why don't we hire someone for the entire game and let Ellis give the halftime pep talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2kid 216 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Watching the LSU-UAT game and arguably two if the better defensive coaches. Gang tackling ball carrier, DBs positioning on oass plays, pressure at the line. Also see an active Kirby Smart coaching and instructing the players; an assistant mans the booth. Contrast to the way we are playing D. I have tremendous respect for CEJ and staff but at the end of the season we need to evaluate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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