***Auburn 23 Vanderbilt 16 -- Post Game Thread***

[Never2Yield 1,005]

1 minute ago, WarTiger said:

Read the rule.  The player not touching anybody DOES NOT MATTER.  It's ILLEGAL to hurdle in college football.  PERIOD.

I posted the definition of Hurdling and the rule reference earlier in the thread.

Thanks, will go back and read.

[WarTiger 3,896]

Just now, Randman5000 said:

I know, not trying to start anything. Just some people like to see things through orange and blue glasses. 

And some of us actually KNOW the rules and orange and blue glasses have nothing to do with the rules.   Contrary to the conspiracy theories out there the rules don't change from team to team. 

[AUUSN 823]

Just now, WarTiger said:

It's legal in the nfl, it's NOT legal in college or high school football.

Wasn't trying argue either way just noting that it reminded me of Daren Bates.

[Randman5000 4,223]

1 minute ago, WarTiger said:

Read the rule.  The player not touching anybody DOES NOT MATTER.  It's ILLEGAL to hurdle in college football.  PERIOD.

I posted the definition of Hurdling and the rule reference earlier in the thread.

Sorry man. They didn't call it..

If he had touched anyone, caused anyone to fall backwards maybe they get called. it was clean and a heck of a play. 

[Never2Yield 1,005]

Just now, dmbseeker00 said:

 

He already did about 1 or 2 pages back. The PDF can be obtained free on google too. This was an easy one to look up too...b.c. It is so clear in the rulebook

@dmbseeker00, thanks.

[AubieAH3 238]

7 minutes ago, Randman5000 said:

It would have been illegal if he had touched anyone. they call it to prevent someone from getting hurt. We'll see of they change it next year  but it was a clean leap and block

I think you are missing what everyone is saying. If he would have just JUMPED and not hurdled I think they are saying it would have been clean. The hurdling part is what they are saying made it illegal. Nobody is arguing there was any contact.

As a side note, he was totally offsides anyway.

[AidiAU 1,270]

I was leaving the stadium and had the pleasure of watching the refs ride out with their police escort. One Auburn gentlemen was on the street giving thumbs down and yelling about what a terrible job they did. It made me feel slightly better to watch that. That being said, the officiating as been TERRIBLE this year. And I'm saying that on games we won, definitely not a "sore loser" complaining. 

[Randman5000 4,223]

8 minutes ago, AU64 said:

Must be legal in the SEC because a bama guy did the exact same thing last year against LSU

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=ymyy-t-999&p=bama+lineman+hurdles+line+to+block+LSU+field+goal#id=2&vid=7e21d67667cf70efa6ed4c722b4e9569&action=click

That's precedent. 

Not sure why guys are arguing when it is allowed. Guess a leaping block and hurdle definition is grey area

[TigerTennis80 343]

I'm relieved with the win. Let's see.... KP has a TD to ice the game & pulls up lame. We have a 2nd down play that appears to have been a walk in TD if we block the 1 guy who blew it up. They blocked the FG on a great play, unless it's illegal. We tip a 4th down pass right to their receiver... This was starting to feel like 1 of THOSE games. No, I'm thrilled to get the W!

[gr82b4au 5,568]

How can we stop the other team from completing these quick slants over the middle? Over and over. They probably were over 50% on 3rd down against our defense. Bringing back bad memories. Teams are finding our weak spot now. 

[auburnpride99 6]

Restrictions for Blocking Kicks

The defensive team has some other restrictions when it tries to block a field goal in college football. Defenders cannot jump on a teammate or be boosted up by a teammate in order to be higher to block the field goal attempt. Doing so will be a penalty and if you block the kick or the offense misses the kick, they will get a 15-yard penalty and a re-kick opportunity. In addition, players cannot hurdle or jump over the offensive line to block a kick. That infraction will be assessed a 15-yard penalty as well. In addition, a new rule was proposed in 2011 that would restrict the defense from performing a three on one triple-team against an offensive lineman during a field-goal attempt. According to the NCAA proposal, it would be illegal for defense to line up three players shoulder to shoulder and advance into an offensive player. This is meant to protect the lineman and would be a 5-yard penalty under the new rules proposal.

 

http://www.livestrong.com/article/403618-rules-for-blocking-a-field-goal-in-college-football/

[Randman5000 4,223]

3 minutes ago, AubieAH3 said:

I think you are missing what everyone is saying. If he would have just JUMPED and not hurdled I think they are saying it would have been clean. The hurdling part is what they are saying made it illegal. Nobody is arguing there was any contact.

As a side note, he was totally offsides anyway.

Now the offsides I believe. Pretty sure if he touches that center the flag comes out though. 

[AUBwins 10,064]

39 minutes ago, msza said:

What a crazy finish. In about a minute:

1) Pettway about to ice the game and goes down with injury 
2) Cunningham pulls one of the most ridiculous defensive plays I've even seen to block field goal that would ice the game
3) Vandy almost pulls off the Slayer in Jordan Hare -- just about a mirror image of Ricardo's catch

 

The entire sequence was begging for an upset.  I can almost guarantee they would have gone for 2 if scored aTD there. 

[ValleyTiger 2,894]

Even worse is that it's my understanding that no defender can line head up on the long snapper clearing the way for the hurdle that we now KNOW is illegal in college football. Mind boggling how the refs screw that up. You'd think it'd be a regular conversation point in the offseason with player safety being of utmost importance. 

[TigerTennis80 343]

1 thing about the refs.... If I remember right, there was 1 holding call in last week's game, none on us. I thought at the time that it was weird to have only 1 such call & wondered if our guys got away with things that other crews might call, & if that was so, how unfair that was. Well, today they called some ticky tack holding penalties. And I think my thought last week was right--it's not fair to any player if 1 week something is holding & the next week it isn't. How are they supposed to know how to play? Ugh...

[msza 228]

Just now, AUBwins said:

The entire sequence was begging for an upset.  I can almost guarantee they would have gone for 2 if scored aTD there. 

Definitely. And Vandy's tipped completion on that final drive came on a 4th and 18, exactly the same down/yardage as the Prayer at Jordan Hare. Eerie....

[ValleyTiger 2,894]

3 minutes ago, Randman5000 said:

Now the offsides I believe. Pretty sure if he touches that center the flag comes out though. 

Dude, you're mixing the NFL rules with the college rules. You were wrong, it's ok.

[WarEagle1983 2,185]

1 minute ago, ValleyTiger said:

Even worse is that it's my understanding that no defender can line head up on the long snapper clearing the way for the hurdle that we now KNOW is illegal in college football. Mind boggling how the refs screw that up. You'd think it'd be a regular conversation point in the offseason with player safety being of utmost importance. 

This was my understanding as well. I'm certainly not one who claims to up on all the rules though but even without touching someone he was lined up right over the snapper and hurdled. I'm sure this debate will go on for a while but i'd love to hear the explanation from the refs or NCAA. 

[WinningTradition 95]

Just now, ValleyTiger said:

Dude, you're mixing the NFL rules with the college rules. You were wrong, it's ok.

Yep  what happened is legal in pro but illegal in college.

[Randman5000 4,223]

1 minute ago, ValleyTiger said:

Dude, you're mixing the NFL rules with the college rules. You were wrong, it's ok.

You have video evidence. Must be blind

[gr82b4au 5,568]

1 minute ago, TigerTennis80 said:

I'm relieved with the win. Let's see.... KP has a TD to ice the game & pulls up lame. We have a 2nd down play that appears to have been a walk in TD if we block the 1 guy who blew it up. They blocked the FG on a great play, unless it's illegal. We tip a 4th down pass right to their receiver... This was starting to feel like 1 of THOSE games. No, I'm thrilled to get the W!

Agreed. After the tip I thought we would lose. It seemed like one of these days. But we won. 

[ValleyTiger 2,894]

2 minutes ago, Randman5000 said:

You have video evidence. Must be blind

You have been shown evidence from the rule book. Must be dense...

[WinningTradition 95]

Holsey making the plays when they count!

[milehighfan 1,239]

I'm wondering if these officials were out to see how many times they could get on TV.

[Randman5000 4,223]

7 minutes ago, ValleyTiger said:

Dude, you're mixing the NFL rules with the college rules. You were wrong, it's ok.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/10/23/13372268/penn-state-blocked-field-goal-osu

 

No defensive player, in an attempt to gain an advantage, may step, jump or stand on an opponent ... No defensive player who runs forward from beyond the neutral zone and leaps from beyond the neutral zone in an obvious attempt to block a field goal or try may land on any player(s).

Come on man.