2018 4* QB Joey Gatewood (Auburn 12/5/15)

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Not positive I agree with that. People feel like Eason may transfer, and if they lose to us with Fromm looking average again, are we 100% sure Fromm holds that job?

If I were in Fields' position, I might see a program that keeps competition open even with an incumbent starter and seems willing to play the younger guy.

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3 hours ago, aujeff11 said:

Elite players embrace competition.

                                     -Fortune Cookie 

Man who goes to bed with itchy butt wakes up with stinky fingers.

 

                                         -Confucius

 

                                                

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10 hours ago, SumterAubie said:

This is my type of pornography

He is taller. He is bigger. He is faster. 

 

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2 hours ago, AUMASTERS said:

Man who goes to bed with itchy butt wakes up with stinky fingers.

 

                                         -Confucius

 

                                                

Happens to me daily...............humm

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17 hours ago, aujeff11 said:

Gatewood is legit and won’t be a TE. His floor will be Hurts pretty much. Excellent on the ground and spotty in the air. His ceiling is the heisman, just like this guy 

No, his "floor" is a guy who doesn't even see the field, just like every other QB recruit.  To suggest that his worst case scenario is the starting QB on a very good team (Hurts at Alabama) is absurd.

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9 minutes ago, metafour said:

No, his "floor" is a guy who doesn't even see the field, just like every other QB recruit.  To suggest that his worst case scenario is the starting QB on a very good team (Hurts at Alabama) is absurd.

He will see the field, if not for wildcat situations alone. To say otherwise is absurd.

And the “starting QB on a very good team” has been exposed against Washington, Clemson, and Auburn.

 

Edited November 30, 2017 by aujeff11

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Just now, aujeff11 said:

He will see the field, if not for wildcat situations alone. To say otherwise is absurd.

And the “starting QB on a very good team” has been exposed against Washington, Clemson, and Auburn.

First off, running "wildcat situations" is a hell of a lot different than what Hurts does at Alabama.  Secondly, I never said that Hurts was some infallible quarterback, just that you seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that the flame-out rate for QB prospects in this league is extremely high, which you should know by now given our own obvious QB failures.  Hurts is the starting QB on a team that has won 25 games the past two seasons.  Gatewood's "floor" isn't Hurts...its Kiehl Frazier: a terrible starting QB on a bad team that shouldn't even be starting but is doing so because the team is bad.  Even Alabama has had elite QB recruits (eg: Cooper Bateman) who never see the field; Jalen Hurts by comparison is far from the worst you can do at that position.

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So, if JG signs and shows up to campus in 2018, what is reasonable best-case scenario for AU's QB progression over the next few years?

Stidham-Willis w/RS Gatewood (2018)

Gatewood-Willis w/RS Nix (2019) (assumes Stidham to NFL draft after 2018)

Gatewood-Nix-Willis (if Willis hasn't already transferred) (2020)

I'm sure I'm leaving some potential QB recruits out, so let me know what you guys think. Please.

 

Edited November 30, 2017 by tigeraddikt

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5 minutes ago, tigeraddikt said:

So, if JG signs and shows up to campus in 2018, what is reasonable best-case scenario for AU's QB progression over the next few years?

Stidham-Willis w/RS Gatewood (2018)

Gatewood-Willis w/RS Nix (2019) (assumes Stidham to NFL draft after 2018)

Gatewood-Nix-Willis (if Willis hasn't already transferred) (2020)

I'm sure I'm leaving some potential QB recruits out, so let me know what you guys think. Please.

You're either assuming or hoping Gatewood will start over Willis. I'm not sure why.

Otherwise, yeah, those are the names and years we're currently working with. Definitely not a given that Nix will sign with us, though.

Edit: We are still trying to find another QB to join Gatewood in this class. I think Emory Jones is the name I've heard most lately. 

Edited November 30, 2017 by McLoofus

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I think you are dismissing Willis way to quickly 

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41 minutes ago, metafour said:

First off, running "wildcat situations" is a hell of a lot different than what Hurts does at Alabama

Never said this. The more accurate description of my argument is that being the wildcat QB is a helluva lot different than never seeing the field( his floor, according to you), and its pretty obvious Gatewood has the talent and the measurables to run in between the tackles or to get short yardage. Gatewood may not ever be the starting QB, but at a bare minimum, he’s got DT capabilities that raises his floor from just your average QB.

41 minutes ago, metafour said:

Secondly, I never said that Hurts was some infallible quarterback

Never said that you did.

41 minutes ago, metafour said:

just that you seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that the flame-out rate for QB prospects in this league is extremely high, which you should know by now given our own obvious QB failures. 

I only know Gatewood’s strengths and I know how Malzahn would like to utilize them.

41 minutes ago, metafour said:

Gatewood's "floor" isn't Hurts.

I didn’t say nor intend to say that Gatewood’s floor was Hurts’ win/loss record. I don’t know why you keep bringing his irrelevant record up when he has always had the best talent that money could buy right beside him to help him win. I said floor for the talent comparison as in “great on the ground, spotty through the air.” 

Edited November 30, 2017 by aujeff11

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23 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

You're either assuming or hoping Gatewood will start over Willis. I'm not sure why.

Otherwise, yeah, those are the names and years we're currently working with. Definitely not a given that Nix will sign with us, though.

Edit: We are still trying to find another QB to join Gatewood in this class. I think Emory Jones is the name I've heard most lately. 

Just assuming, not hoping. Pretty much my entire list is assumptions.

Edited November 30, 2017 by tigeraddikt

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3 minutes ago, tigeraddikt said:

Just assuming, not hoping. Pretty much my entire list is assumptions. I just wanna win bae.

Still, wouldn't make that assumption. Willis is a hell of a talent and he got some quality reps in this offense this year. If Stid does stay, then you're right that Gatewood will likely redshirt and then Willis has 2 years' experience on him. 

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21 minutes ago, au_bsci_04 said:

I think you are dismissing Willis way to quickly 

Jury is still out on Willis. The game needs to slow down for him just so he can make some reads and we can see what he is all about. It seems like he is so hyped up, he is sure to keep the ball on zone read on his first play. We need to see him make more throws and more decisions

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36 minutes ago, tigeraddikt said:

So, if JG signs and shows up to campus in 2018, what is reasonable best-case scenario for AU's QB progression over the next few years?

Stidham-Willis w/RS Gatewood (2018)

Gatewood-Willis w/RS Nix (2019) (assumes Stidham to NFL draft after 2018)

Gatewood-Nix-Willis (if Willis hasn't already transferred) (2020)

I'm sure I'm leaving some potential QB recruits out, so let me know what you guys think. Please.

 

TBH the best-case scenario on QBs rarely works out for most schools so I'm not sure it's even worth speculating on but here goes.

The #1 best case is Stidham staying & being healthy through his Sr year of 2019 bringing stability. Willis may have transferred by then but if not in 2020 you have him as a SR battling w/ a RS Soph or JR in Joey,  & Soph or RS Frosh if we get Bo Nix.

#2 would be your 2nd scenario of Stidham leaving after next season although Nix would be a true frosh not a RS frosh in 2019.

Edited November 30, 2017 by ellitor

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28 minutes ago, au_bsci_04 said:

I think you are dismissing Willis way to quickly 

[ClaytonAU 4,606]

I think if JG ends up being our only guy in this class, which could happen, we really need Stidham to stay next year. We shall see. 

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1 hour ago, ClaytonAU said:

I think if JG ends up being our only guy in this class, which could happen, we really need Stidham to stay next year. We shall see. 

That’s pretty dangerous.  Might be good to line up a few JC guys just in case.

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46 minutes ago, AUDevil said:

That’s pretty dangerous.  Might be good to line up a few JC guys just in case.

JC QBs would only be interested in AU if Stidham leaves which he is unlikely to do. JC QBs want to start.

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8 minutes ago, ellitor said:

JC QBs would only be interested in AU if Stidham leaves which he is unlikely to do. JC QBs want to start.

thats what I'm saying.  Gotta get those guys on stand-by.  I don't think he leaves either, but he's shooting up scout's boards.

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6 minutes ago, AUDevil said:

thats what I'm saying.  Gotta get those guys on stand-by.  I don't think he leaves either, but he's shooting up scout's boards.

Links?

And the staff is very confident in Malik so you sign a high schooler not a juco. No need to bring a juco in & him messing up team chemistry by whining because he ain't the starter.

Edited November 30, 2017 by ellitor

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1 minute ago, ellitor said:

Links?

I think he meant that he should be shooting up scouts boards.

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Just now, bg5 said:

I think he meant that he should be shooting up scouts boards.

The ones I talk to at home games still question his size & durability.

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7 minutes ago, ellitor said:

The ones I talk to at home games still question his size & durability.

I think he has proven the durability this year but size you can't so anything about ( well I guess he is tall enough just needs to put on some muscle). I think he comes back (or at least I hope so).

Edited November 30, 2017 by bg5

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13 minutes ago, bg5 said:

I think he has proven the durability this year but size you can't so anything about ( well I guess he is tall enough just needs to put on some muscle). I think he comes back (or at least I hope so).

I  don't look at draft boards unless I see it on my twitter timeline and I don't remember the particular tweets except this power ranking from nfl.com.  Unranked to #7 in 3 weeks.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000876631/article/college-football-qb-power-rankings-baker-mayfield-still-on-top?campaign=tw-cf-sf169656676-sf169656676&sf169656676=1

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I just did a twitter search on Stidham and NFL...holy crap at the rumors.  This guy claims Stidham is entering:

http://draftanalyst.com/week-13-risers-sliders