TitanTiger 20,469 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mims44 said: I don't think 1 cent per ounce is gonna fix any obesity problem. Probably not. It may cause a small decrease in soda consumption, which wouldn't be a bad thing. And in the process it'll raise some revenue for the county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mims44 1,864 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Just now, TitanTiger said: Probably not. It may cause a small decrease in soda consumption, which wouldn't be a bad thing. And in the process it'll raise some revenue for the county. Raising revenue sure, and hell.. maybe for people who have large families that drank a ton of it it'll cause less consumption. But thinking about my family (just me and wife, kids aren't allowed soda), and I believe we drink too much soda...you're talking 10 cans a week at 12oz per can. an extra $1.20 a week isn't gonna be the thing that makes us start drinking less. Now, start taxing it like they tax tobacco and you'll see some major changes I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburnfan91 1,407 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 10 hours ago, TitanTiger said: A whole 1%?!?!?!?! You mean someone might have to pay another 2 cents in sales tax on a $1.49 beverage that's terrible for them? How are we going to pay for food and medicine with this obscene gouging? Someone alert patriots everywhere. Meet at Boston Harbor at midnight to dump all the Coke and Pepsi products into the sea! Yeah throw all the Gatorade and Powerade drinks in there along with it. Screw people who have an outside job that have to work outside for a living and sweat a lot. So what if the heat index is 105 for the next couple of days. Drink more water patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,352 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Auburnfan91 said: Yeah throw all the Gatorade and Powerade drinks in there along with it. Screw people who have an outside job that have to work outside for a living and sweat a lot. So what if the heat index is 105 for the next couple of days. Drink more water patriots. Oh, the HUMANITY! You cannot be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburnfan91 1,407 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, homersapien said: Oh, the HUMANITY! You cannot be serious. Philadelphia's soda tax has been a dud. http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/stu_bykofsky/soda-tax-is-tanking-what-comes-next-20170616.html If these taxes actually did what they were supposed to do you'd have a point. But the cities in favor of the soda taxes are mainly doing it for a cash grab to bring in more revenue. In the case of Philadelphia's soda tax, the revenue is far less than what they were projecting the tax would bring in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,469 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 16 hours ago, Auburnfan91 said: Yeah throw all the Gatorade and Powerade drinks in there along with it. Screw people who have an outside job that have to work outside for a living and sweat a lot. So what if the heat index is 105 for the next couple of days. Drink more water patriots. Let's say these people you speak of buy, on average, one Gatorade or Powerade per day (some days they get two, others they drink water, etc). And let's say these folks get a week of paid time off plus holidays that add up to about 2 weeks off during the year. And just to tip things more in your favor, we'll say these folks work in south Florida where it's warm year round. So they work, on average, 50 out of 52 weeks, or 250 days a year. At $1.49 each, this one percent increase in tax adds up to a financially crippling $3.73 per year. Yeah, they're so screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,469 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 14 hours ago, Auburnfan91 said: Philadelphia's soda tax has been a dud. http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/stu_bykofsky/soda-tax-is-tanking-what-comes-next-20170616.html If these taxes actually did what they were supposed to do you'd have a point. But the cities in favor of the soda taxes are mainly doing it for a cash grab to bring in more revenue. In the case of Philadelphia's soda tax, the revenue is far less than what they were projecting the tax would bring in. Philly's soda tax was a lot higher as well. For a Gatorade 8-pack for instance, the tax added $2.40 to the price of the purchase, or about 30 cents per bottle. For that same 8-pack (priced at $5.99) under the tax mentioned in the original post, it would add 6 cents to the total price, or 3/4ths of a penny per bottle. All taxes aren't the same and thus their effects aren't the same. The choices aren't no tax or maximum tax we can possibly bleed out of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburnfan91 1,407 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 6 hours ago, TitanTiger said: Let's say these people you speak of buy, on average, one Gatorade or Powerade per day (some days they get two, others they drink water, etc). And let's say these folks get a week of paid time off plus holidays that add up to about 2 weeks off during the year. And just to tip things more in your favor, we'll say these folks work in south Florida where it's warm year round. So they work, on average, 50 out of 52 weeks, or 250 days a year. At $1.49 each, this one percent increase in tax adds up to a financially crippling $3.73 per year. Yeah, they're so screwed. You're mistaken. That's not what the OP said. The tax in Cook County, Illinois was a 1 cent per ounce tax. Not a 1% tax. On 11/13/2016 at 4:54 PM, Auburn85 said: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cook-county-soda-tax_us_58250427e4b0c4b63b0c0fe4 Big Soda just had a really tough week. First, voters in Boulder, Colorado, and in three cities in California approved new local taxes on soda on Election Day. Then, on Thursday, the board of commissioners in Illinois’ Cook County ― which includes Chicago ― moved to approve a tax of 1 cent per ounce on soda and other sugary beverages. Philadelphia's soda tax is 1.5 cents per ounce. Quote When this was pointed out to Kenney, he told them to drink diet soda. That was before no-sugar diet soda was added to the list of beverages to be taxed at the punishing rate of 1.5 cents per ounce. http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/stu_bykofsky/soda-tax-is-tanking-what-comes-next-20170616.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,469 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I totally misread that. My bad. I imagine theyll have the same results or close to it that Philly had then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn85 432 Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-cook-county-soda-pop-tax-lawsuit-20170728-story.html Quote Shoppers will see Cook County's penny-per-ounce sweetened beverage tax on their grocery receipts beginning Wednesday after a judge dismissed a lawsuit Friday that called the tax unconstitutional, clearing the way for the tax to go forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mims44 1,864 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, Auburn85 said: http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-cook-county-soda-pop-tax-lawsuit-20170728-story.html Shoppers will see Cook County's penny-per-ounce sweetened beverage tax on their grocery receipts beginning Wednesday after a judge dismissed a lawsuit Friday that called the tax unconstitutional, clearing the way for the tax to go forward. Not a lawyer by any means, so maybe this is way over my head. But wouldn't the legality of taxing items that are bad for your health have been settled by tobacco companies long ago if it could have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn85 432 Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 20 hours ago, Mims44 said: Not a lawyer by any means, so maybe this is way over my head. But wouldn't the legality of taxing items that are bad for your health have been settled by tobacco companies long ago if it could have been? Not sure, but that does make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn85 432 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 http://abc7chicago.com/politics/parts-of-soda-tax-violates-federal-law-idhs-says/2293186/ Quote Parts of soda tax violate federal law, Illinois Department of Human Services says CHICAGO (WLS) -- The Illinois Department of Human Services told the Cook County Board of Commissioners Thursday morning that parts of the sugary drink tax in Cook County are illegal.In a letter delivered to Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle, IDHS said the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the Food and Nutrition Service determined Cook County is violating federal law when it comes to taxing low-income families on the new sweetened beverage tax. The letter specifically mentioned families who are in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, also known as SNAP. more at the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn85 432 Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/county-board-poised-to-repeal-soda-tax/ Quote Cook County Board repeals soda tax A 15-2 vote cemented the fate of the county’s controversial soda tax. The Cook County Board of Commissioners on Wednesday repealed the penny-an-ounce levy on sweetened beverages it passed last November. The final action comes after a similar vote Tuesday in the board’s Finance Committee. That vote came after nearly five hours of public comment — featuring Cook County Clerk David Orr, Clerk of the Circuit Court Dorothy Brown and Public Defender Amy Campanelli. Under the ordinance, the tax would remain in effect until the start of the new county fiscal year on Dec. 1. Wednesday’s meeting was shorter, with fewer people signing up to speak. Only two “no” votes were cast — one from Larry Suffredin (D-Evanston), who also voted against a repeal during the Tuesday session, and the other from Jerry “Iceman” Butler (D-Chicago). more at the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Bet if you check the impact of this tax....it's just another tax on the poor. Mims...has it right......If you want to do something about obesity, better put a tax on french fries and Big Macs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn85 432 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 http://kgmi.com/news/007700-seattles-sugary-drink-tax-could-go-state-wide/ Quote KGMI News OLYMPIA, Wash. – Just two weeks after Seattle imposed a sugary beverage tax, a new bill would impose it statewide. KXLY reports a bill is being reintroduced to impose a tax that adds nearly two cents to every ounce of a sugary drink sold. Seattle leaders say the tax is a good way to discourage people from drinking soda, which can lead to an increased risk of heart disease, diabetes and hypertension. Deedee Sun with KIRO recently posted a photo on Twitter showing a pack of Gatorade in a Seattle Costco costing more than $26 after the sugar tax tacked on an additional $10.34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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