TCU Postgame

[JwgreDeux 1,279]

1 hour ago, AU64 said:

Just curious...is there more going on with DP than just his ankle....last few games he's played lots of minutes and had almost no impact other than inability to guard his man?  

That forced shot at the end of the game with 20 seconds on the shot clock and game winding down was bothersome.   Does not seem to be the same guy who started the season and looked so good. 

I think it has something to do with finding his spot with this ever changing rotation. Sometimes you have to let the game come to you and be patient. As a high level player it is tempting to force it at times. He isn't used to playing off the bench so that is something to consider as well. He has also been inserted some at the three during since his return and that is something new as well. 

 

A lot of moving oarts arts with this YOUNG team. They will be young all season. They will continue to experience firsts all season. As pressure mounts to make the post season, as they go to bama and experience that side of the rivalry, as they go to their first SEC tourney, they will still make young mistakes. They won't turn into seniors mid-seaon. 

[AU64 10,122]

2 minutes ago, JwgreDeux said:

I think it has something to do with finding his spot with this ever changing rotation. Sometimes you have to let the game come to you and be patient. As a high level player it is tempting to force it at times. He isn't used to playing off the bench so that is something to consider as well. He has also been inserted some at the three during since his return and that is something new as well. 

 

A lot of moving oarts arts with this YOUNG team. They will be young all season. They will continue to experience firsts all season. As pressure mounts to make the post season, as they go to bama and experience that side of the rivalry, as they go to their first SEC tourney, they will still make young mistakes. They won't turn into seniors mid-seaon. 

Thanks....I get the changing roles and such and how it might affect things....just concerned that his shooting is way off but maybe just part of the adjustment...but for a guy like him to be playing 25-27 minutes and only scoring 3 or 5 points ?  Starting after the Mercer game his scoring contribution and shooting accuracy has really dropped. 

[NoALtiger 3,850]

16 minutes ago, AU64 said:

Thanks....I get the changing roles and such and how it might affect things....just concerned that his shooting is way off but maybe just part of the adjustment...but for a guy like him to be playing 25-27 minutes and only scoring 3 or 5 points ?  Starting after the Mercer game his scoring contribution and shooting accuracy has really dropped. 

I don't have an answer for ya but like you say, there is a pre-injury Danjel and a post injury Danjel. It obviously has something to do with that I'd guess. It is probably a combination of the injury and the changing dynamics of bringing Wiley in and the general flow of the season. Main thing to me is that other guys have stepped up and we are improving. When Danjel gets his mojo back, that'll only make us better to state the obvious. 

[AUTigersfan89 256]

A big difference I've seen even before his injury is his passiveness on offense. During the OOC games, he seemed to like being aggressive and cutting to the basket. Now, he sits more along the perimeter looking to hit a 3-pointer. I'm not sure what has caused him to lose nearly all his offensive tenacity. Maybe the ankle was bothering him before he was injured, and rolling it really made it worse—although I think BP would have told us as he doesn't hold back injury info like Gus does.

[Brad_ATX 13,654]

10 hours ago, ellitor said:

All of them left are winnable.

Calling it now.  We will end up 10-8 in conference play based on the schedule that's left.  And that would be HUGE for the program.

[ellitor 33,088]

3 hours ago, AU64 said:

Just curious...is there more going on with DP than just his ankle....last few games he's played lots of minutes and had almost no impact other than inability to guard his man?  

That forced shot at the end of the game with 20 seconds on the shot clock and game winding down was bothersome.   Does not seem to be the same guy who started the season and looked so good. 

Ankle still tender. He's playing more and came back quicker than he should have TBH.

[WeagleTheBeagle 60]

Great stretch there in the 2nd half!  I think we all can see what this team is capable of.  Love McLemore...him and Wiley are a great combo.  Very efficient down low!  Purifoy is one where I dont understand why hes getting so many minutes (27) but gotta trust Bruce.  Still seems injured though and a liability currently.  All in all, awesome win now lets wreck UT for Bruce!

[au302 2,669]

Were we expecting Purifoy to become a spot up three point specialist when he came here? Because that's all he's seemed to do lately. I read the previous posts so I understand that the rotation is now evolving around Mustapha and Wiley but why wouldn't BP play Lang over Purifoy if he's still hurt? Lang's a lot worse than DP but he will most likely make more threes and it would let DP heal his ankle and clear his mind. I don't know, it's weird because we all know Purifoy is a monster when he's playing well.

[cole256 17,045]

2 hours ago, AU64 said:

Thanks....I get the changing roles and such and how it might affect things....just concerned that his shooting is way off but maybe just part of the adjustment...but for a guy like him to be playing 25-27 minutes and only scoring 3 or 5 points ?  Starting after the Mercer game his scoring contribution and shooting accuracy has really dropped. 

He's came back too early, which most every athlete that plays high minutes will do, because while everybody says you shouldn't lose your spot to injury if the team starts winning and you're not an obvious super star you WILL LOSE IT. Which is why I told people they couldn't really be mad at sw for the Georgia football game, but at the same time he wasn't some unbelievable hero for it either, 90% of these kids do that.

Which is also why I hate the players are lucky to play for the school mantra, the regular students are superior...Purifoy probably was trying to get around on crotches or a boot in the winter to get to class also having to spend extra time rehabilitating.....Which make no mistake......absolutely sucks

[ellitor 33,088]

1 hour ago, cole256 said:

He's came back too early, which most every athlete that plays high minutes will do, because while everybody says you shouldn't lose your spot to injury if the team starts winning and you're not an obvious super star you WILL LOSE IT. Which is why I told people they couldn't really be mad at sw for the Georgia football game, but at the same time he wasn't some unbelievable hero for it either, 90% of these kids do that.

Which is also why I hate the players are lucky to play for the school mantra, the regular students are superior...Purifoy probably was trying to get around on crotches or a boot in the winter to get to class also having to spend extra time rehabilitating.....Which make no mistake......absolutely sucks

How often do we completely agree? lol

[FoundationEagle 637]

2 hours ago, cole256 said:

Purifoy probably was trying to get around on crotches 

 Might explain the issue  

[boomstick 1,315]

18 hours ago, au302 said:

we looked so good tonight. Don't know if we can look much better the rest of the way. I have a quick question. Would it be a bad idea to start Mac? I like how Horace is playing but I think Mac and Wiley could be a great duo. If guys keep driving and dishing to them under the goal we can't be stopped most of the time

Bruce said in the post game on the radio that playing Mac at the position he's in has gotten him closer to the basket and allowed him to do what he's really good doing, finishing around the basket and rebounding. I don't think we will see Wiley and Mac on the floor together this season because Bruce won't move Mac from where he's sees him as comfortable right now. 

I think it's possible to see Mac move to PF next year when his overall game improves, but I don't think we will see it this year. 

[tigerbrotha12 2,362]

With regards to Purifoy, sometimes your most important player is not necessarily the one that fills up the stat sheet. Notice, I did not say best player, but the one most IMPORTANT to the team. I think Purifoy affects this team in a bulk of different ways. For him to even be on the floor, I believe, gives our guys a little confidence and swagger that they can hang with teams. He made some very good passes last night and played pretty good post defense a few times. Having a guy that helps the attitude of your team, and doesn't make many mistakes can be nothing but good for your team. I think having DP out there at any point is good for this team. He affects the game in more than just stats.

[Tigerbelle 5,299]

9 hours ago, JwgreDeux said:

I think it has something to do with finding his spot with this ever changing rotation. Sometimes you have to let the game come to you and be patient. As a high level player it is tempting to force it at times. He isn't used to playing off the bench so that is something to consider as well. He has also been inserted some at the three during since his return and that is something new as well. 

 

A lot of moving oarts arts with this YOUNG team. They will be young all season. They will continue to experience firsts all season. As pressure mounts to make the post season, as they go to bama and experience that side of the rivalry, as they go to their first SEC tourney, they will still make young mistakes. They won't turn into seniors mid-seaon. 

Best post of the season!!!!

 

[gravejd 3,270]

Well well......what an impressive bounce back game after the USCe game. Kudos to the coaches and players for getting this win. It was a big one to be sure. Whether we make the NCAA or not is anyones guess. But we are currently in position for that to be a possibility with a month left in the season and for these guys to be in this position with all the young players we have is quite the accomplishment. You gotta take the good with the bad with a young team....the bad being the USCe total beatdown....the good being the short term memory of the young guys. They didn't hang there heads but instead went to work and beat a very good TCU team on the road....ON THE ROAD!!!

Big props to both Mac, Wiley and Spencer for hitting the boards like they did. A big reason we won that game was the work inside those guys put in. Especially Wiley and Mac, those guys were constantly around the basket and banging down low. I really look forward to the possibility next year of moving Mac to PF and playing him along side Wiley. Rebound problems solved! Great first half by Heron as well. He just plays so smooth out there on the court. He made some really nice jumpers with a hand in his face. That guy is quite the weapon when you need some scoring. Really hope he stays for another year atleast. He'll be lots of fun to watch with a year experience under his belt. Another solid game by RJ, i like how Pearl is handling the PG rotation right now. RJ is the better PG when it comes to getting the ball down low and creating for others so i like having him in there at the end of games. He should probably start as well but i can see Pearl is prepping Harper for the seasons to come. And its not like we have a huge drop off with Harper out there. Final shout out goes to Brown. His 3 shooting just hasn't been there this season for whatever reason. But i feel like he has changed his game some and is finding other ways to help the team. He also isn't throwing up crazy shot after crazy shot to try and get himself going. He can really be a huge asset to this team if he'll let the shots find him instead of trying to go find his shots. I think thats the way he is trending as well. 

Great win!! War Eagle!!

[AuburnNTexas 7,140]

The things that impressed me the most in this game were two things people have mentioned a lot and one thing I haven't seen mentioned. The two things mentioned a lot were number of assists to baskets that was the best team offense we have played all year, the work on the boards was vastly improved.  The other area was the number of times people got their hands on the other teams passes leading to turnovers and points. People were moving their feet and keeping their hands up on defense They were going over the top on shooters who were 3 point threats and under on players that were more a threat to drive then make the 3.  It was really solid team defense in the second half.

I know some people were upset at the last few minutes as we became lackadaisical at the end While I didn't like it I think part of it was the cushion they had built up made them feel safe and I am sure the coaches will address it.

This was the best total game we have played all year and we did it on the road against a very good team. I am proud of this team and hope they can continue to improve the balance of the year they have some games they can win but they will not be easy as the SEC as seen in the BIG 12 challenge has gotten better. The only two games I think that are left that I would feel safe counting as wins before we play are Missouri at home and maybe LSU as an away game. I feel good about Texas A&M as an away game and Miss State as a home game. All the other games will be tough and even the ones I feel good about are not sure things. We need to win at least 6 out of the last 10 games to get to 20 wins which should get us to NIT doable but tough if we can win a couple more games an outside shot at the NCAA especially with our RPI.  That said realistically I am hoping we get to NIT. 

[au302 2,669]

Man I want us to beat Tennessee so bad tomorrow. Not only because they're a good team but because I'd love to quiet all the talk about them in the tournament. I have a bad feeling about this one but anwin would be so damn sweet

[AuburnNTexas 7,140]

11 hours ago, au302 said:

Man I want us to beat Tennessee so bad tomorrow. Not only because they're a good team but because I'd love to quiet all the talk about them in the tournament. I have a bad feeling about this one but anwin would be so damn sweet

It would definitely be a big win especially after the TCU win it would help a lot in having a chance to make the NIT or even outside shot at NCAA assuming we follow up with 5 or 6 more SEC wins.

[JwgreDeux 1,279]

Right now you are going to see talk about who that 4th and/or 5th SEC team will be in the tourney. It will change from week to week based on wins and losses. UT has won three straight so they are the flavor of the week, especially with their schedule.  A couple of losses and that will fade, a couple of wins by someone else and they will be the new hot team. This time of year, if you can string some wins together you can make big moves. 

[tigerbrotha12 2,362]

In the past, that 20 win mark has been a really big win total to get to, especially when you're in the SEC. I know the SEC didn't get many teams in last year, but you can't base the number of teams they get in this year on last year. There's some turnover, sure, but you could see as many as 7-8 teams get in if they were good enough.

Teams still with any sort of shot include:

Kentucky, South Carolina, Florida, Arkansas, Auburn, Mississippi State, UGA, Bama, Tennessee, Ole Miss (unlikely), Texas A&M(unlikely).

All these teams currently have less than 10 losses and around 10 games to play- meaning if the unlikely teams get hot, and wins 8 of their last 10 or so, they would probably get a look. I would expect the following teams in at the end of the year:

UK as a 1 seed

SCar as about a 4 seed 

Florida as an 8 seed or so 

Arkansas as a 9 seed 

Then you start getting into those bubble teams that would be your 10-13 seeds, roughly. With 18 of those teams (2 play in games of 12 seeds), I think auburn is certainly competing around that area right now. Would I put auburn in the tournament now? No, but I do think there is plenty of room to prove they belong. I think that starts this week. 2 wins this week, and Auburn starts to get up in the talk of 8 or 9 seed, maybe even 7 seed. Keep the lookout up, while AU still is not quite there, they ain't as far as some think. 20 wins is 6 wins away. 

 

[AU64 10,122]

14 minutes ago, JwgreDeux said:

Right now you are going to see talk about who that 4th and/or 5th SEC team will be in the tourney. It will change from week to week based on wins and losses. UT has won three straight so they are the flavor of the week, especially with their schedule.  A couple of losses and that will fade, a couple of wins by someone else and they will be the new hot team. This time of year, if you can string some wins together you can make big moves. 

One thing about UT...can't take their win over UK away from them and they have some other good wins.   JMO but we have more to gain by beating them than they have to lose is we win the game.   

We really need some wins over good teams....and only have one ranked team (Florida) left on our schedule.    All the rest are beatable....and in my view AU must beat most of them (even the road teams)  to even be thinking of a tourney bid.

[ellitor 33,088]

8 minutes ago, tigerbrotha12 said:

In the past, that 20 win mark has been a really big win total to get to, especially when you're in the SEC. I know the SEC didn't get many teams in last year, but you can't base the number of teams they get in this year on last year. There's some turnover, sure, but you could see as many as 7-8 teams get in if they were good enough.

Teams still with any sort of shot include:

Kentucky, South Carolina, Florida, Arkansas, Auburn, Mississippi State, UGA, Bama, Tennessee, Ole Miss (unlikely), Texas A&M(unlikely).

All these teams currently have less than 10 losses and around 10 games to play- meaning if the unlikely teams get hot, and wins 8 of their last 10 or so, they would probably get a look. I would expect the following teams in at the end of the year:

UK as a 1 seed

SCar as about a 4 seed 

Florida as an 8 seed or so 

Arkansas as a 9 seed 

Then you start getting into those bubble teams that would be your 10-13 seeds, roughly. With 18 of those teams (2 play in games of 12 seeds), I think auburn is certainly competing around that area right now. Would I put auburn in the tournament now? No, but I do think there is plenty of room to prove they belong. I think that starts this week. 2 wins this week, and Auburn starts to get up in the talk of 8 or 9 seed, maybe even 7 seed. Keep the lookout up, while AU still is not quite there, they ain't as far as some think. 20 wins is 6 wins away. 

It comes down to AU has to win at least 7 of it's last 10 plus at least 1 in the SEC Tourney to have any shot of making the NCAAs. At minimum that will require a 22-11 record this year. The BC loss was horrible. It means we have to get at least 2 or 3 quality wins above what we already needed. 20 won't be enough. It would get us in the NIT.

[AU64 10,122]

Just now, ellitor said:

It comes down to AU has to win at least 7 of it's last 10 plus at least 1 in the SEC Tourney to have any shot of making the NCAAs. At minimum that will require a 22-11 record this year. The BC loss was horrible. It means we have to get at least 2 or 3 quality wins above what we already needed.

Thus far we really don't have what i consider a quality win....lost to the only3 ranked teams we played.... and BC as you mention.   Frankly, despite what I hear about our RPI, I don't see how we impress those who are picking the tourney teams....UNLESS, as you say, we win 7 or so of the last games and don't have another game like USCe.

5 Road games and the SEC tournament.....maybe need to win at least two games there?

[ellitor 33,088]

10 minutes ago, AU64 said:

Thus far we really don't have what i consider a quality win....lost to the only3 ranked teams we played.... and BC as you mention.   Frankly, despite what I hear about our RPI, I don't see how we impress those who are picking the tourney teams....UNLESS, as you say, we win 7 or so of the last games and don't have another game like USCe.

5 Road games and the SEC tournament.....maybe need to win at least two games there?

Gotta remember. The committee likes those neutral wins too. Combined record on the road & neutral we are 6-5. That's an attractive record for the committee. If we can win 8 of 12 counting playing 2 SEC Tourney games winning at least 3 on the road or at a neutral site then we will have a shot. That would make us 9-9 on road & neutral sites which like I said before is attractive to the committee. All our remaining road games are winnable. It would be nice to go ahead & win 3 of those 5 to make things very interesting provided we don't lose more than 1 at home the rest of the way. At the moment TCU on the read is a quality win & our best win. Beating Texas Tech, being in the top 100, on a neutral floor is considered quality too.

[gravejd 3,270]

22 minutes ago, AU64 said:

Thus far we really don't have what i consider a quality win....lost to the only3 ranked teams we played.... and BC as you mention.   Frankly, despite what I hear about our RPI, I don't see how we impress those who are picking the tourney teams....UNLESS, as you say, we win 7 or so of the last games and don't have another game like USCe.

5 Road games and the SEC tournament.....maybe need to win at least two games there?

Texas Tech and TCU wins are not just quality wins. They are very impressive wins as well. Those are both fringe top 25 teams. Sucks UCONN and OK aren't winning more games or we could count those as well. Though i think you could argue that a road win against UCONN is quality even if their record is not great