Law prof. Lawrence Tribe: Falsely accusing Obama of wiretapping ‘qualifies as an impeachable offense’

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Generally opposing trade agreements and suggesting the imposition of tariffs is not "conservative".

Reversing 60 years of foreign policy by denigrating NATO and supporting Russian interests is not "conservative".

Defunding EPA and NASA research on global warming is not "conservative".

Populism is not "conservative".

Conservatism has been hijacked by social and political reactionaries using populist tactics.

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On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 6:46 PM, AUUSN said:

I accused Trump of treason? You'll have to show evidence. 

And why do people associate me with the 'left?'

Yes....colluding with a foreign power to alter US elections....that would be treason...you didn't advocate that on this forum?  Really?

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6 hours ago, japantiger said:

Yes....colluding with a foreign power to alter US elections....that would be treason...you didn't advocate that on this forum?  Really?

So then you have no evidence I accused Trump of treason. Just some lame seven degrees of Bacon logic.

 

Spicer would be proud of you.

[AURaptor 1,122]

Obama meddled with a foreign gov's election, but that perfectly fine... 

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6 hours ago, AURaptor said:

Obama meddled with a foreign gov's election, but that perfectly fine... 

BBBBBUT....Obama!

[AURaptor 1,122]

4 hours ago, TitanTiger said:

BBBBBUT....Obama!

It's a fact, genius. Double standards much ? 

Oh , and by the way... 

OBAMA SPIED ON TRUMP ! 

 

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Obama Defense Deputy Slips Up On Live TV - Reveals Spying On Trump Team And Leaking Of Intel

 

Former Obama Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Evelyn Farkas, made some stunning admissions during an interview with MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski.

While discussing the mad scramble by the Obama administration to collect and preserve intelligence on alleged Russian election hacking before Obama left office, it appears that Farkas accidentally implicated the Obama White House in the surveillance of Trump's campaign staff:

 

 

The Trump folks, if they found out how we knew what we knew about the Trump staff dealing with Russians, that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we would not longer have access to that intelligence.

Furthermore, Farkas effectively corroborated a New York Times article from early March which cited "Former American officials" as their anonymous source regarding efforts to leak this surveillance on the Trump team to Democrats across Washington DC.

 

 

I became very worried because not enough was coming out into the open and I knew that there was more. We have very good intelligence on Russia. So then I had talked to some of my former colleagues and I knew they were trying to also get information to the hill.

 

That's why you have the leaking.

In other words; the Obama administration was concerned about spoliation of evidence gathered through various "sources and methods" of surveillance, so a plan was hatched to leak this information to congress - also known as "The Hill."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-29/smoking-gun-obama-defense-deputy-slips-live-tv-reveals-spying-trump-team-and-leaking

 

 

 

2 things there. 

 

1.  The Obama administration actively spied on Pres. Elect Trump and his team. That's now indisputable. 

 

2. The FACT that Obama spied on Trump is not anything the establishment want being discussed. That's why the faces in D.C. have all come out in a unified , monolithic manner to ALL sing from the same script - no spying. At all. Nothing to see here.

 

It's 100% B.S. 

 

 

In a sane, just world, some here on this forum would be offering up apologies. 

 

But we know that's not going to happen. 

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But but but Obama

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In the interest of bi-partisanship.....bbbbut Bush!  

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15 minutes ago, AUUSN said:

But but but Obama

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu

The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.

Some $350,000 was sent to OneVoice, ostensibly to support the group’s efforts to back Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement negotiations. But OneVoice used the money to build a voter database, train activists and hire a political consulting firm with ties to President Obama’s campaign — all of which set the stage for an anti-Netanyahu campaign, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations said in a bipartisan staff report.

In one stunning finding, the subcommittee said OneVoice even told the State Department’s top diplomat in Jerusalem of its plans in an email, but the official, Consul General Michael Ratney, claims never to have seen them.

He said he regularly deleted emails with large attachments — a striking violation of open-records laws for a department already reeling from former Secretary Hillary Clinton’s handling of official government records.

Mr. Netanyahu survived the election, and the U.S. spending was not deemed illegal because the State Department never put any conditions on the money. Investigators also said OneVoice didn’t turn explicitly political until days after the grant period ended.

 

Where's the proof that Russia did ANYTHING to equal this sort of meddling ? I'll hang up and listen. 

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[AURaptor 1,122]

USN <---- So lacking of intellectual honesty or ability to even approach the issue in any sober, sincere or mature manner. 

So telling. 

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4 hours ago, AURaptor said:

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu

The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.

Some $350,000 was sent to OneVoice, ostensibly to support the group’s efforts to back Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement negotiations. But OneVoice used the money to build a voter database, train activists and hire a political consulting firm with ties to President Obama’s campaign — all of which set the stage for an anti-Netanyahu campaign, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations said in a bipartisan staff report.

In one stunning finding, the subcommittee said OneVoice even told the State Department’s top diplomat in Jerusalem of its plans in an email, but the official, Consul General Michael Ratney, claims never to have seen them.

He said he regularly deleted emails with large attachments — a striking violation of open-records laws for a department already reeling from former Secretary Hillary Clinton’s handling of official government records.

Mr. Netanyahu survived the election, and the U.S. spending was not deemed illegal because the State Department never put any conditions on the money. Investigators also said OneVoice didn’t turn explicitly political until days after the grant period ended.

 

Where's the proof that Russia did ANYTHING to equal this sort of meddling ? I'll hang up and listen. 

The actual report:

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OneVoice Israel fully complied with the terms of its State Department grants. OneVoice designed and executed a grassroots and media campaign to promote public support for Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations for the Department, as it said it would. Under the grant, OneVoice expanded its social media presence, built a larger voter database, and hired an American political consulting firm to train its activists and executives in grassroots organizing methods in support of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. 

The Subcommittee found no evidence that OneVoice spent grant funds to influence the 2015 Israeli elections. Soon after the grant period ended, however, OneVoice used the campaign infrastructure and resources built, in part, with State Department grants funds to support V15.

 

So they fulfilled their promises, and went on to do anti-Netanyahu stuff after grant ended.

You're such an easy mark.

[AURaptor 1,122]

 How am I an easy mark? Nothing I posted was inaccurate. 

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President Obama's role during the Israeli elections was larger than reported, according to a pollster for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party.

 

"What was not well reported in the American media is that President Obama and his allies were playing in the election to defeat Prime Minister Netanyahu," John McLaughlin, a Republican strategist, said in an interview on John Catsimatidis's "The Cats Roundtable" radio show broadcast Sunday on AM 970 in New York.

 

"There was money moving that included taxpayer U.S. dollars, through non-profit organizations. And there were various liberal groups in the United States that were raising millions to fund a campaign called V15 against Prime Minister Netanyahu," McLaughlin said.

He noted an effort to oust Netanyahu was guided by former Obama political operative Jeremy Bird and that V15, or Victory 15, ads hurt Netanyahu in the polls. McLaughlin said the Israeli leader rebounded after delivering a speech to Congress early this month, prompting more critical ads.

V15 was viewed as part of a broader campaign to oust Netanyahu. The group was linked to Washington-based nonprofit OneVoice Movement, which reportedly received $350,000 in State Department grants. Money to OneVoice stopped flowing in November, officials said, before the Israeli elections.

After Netanyahu's win, V15 co-founder Nimrod Dweck said in an interview with Ronan Farrow aired on MSNBC's "Jose Diaz-Balart" that "not a single cent" of State Department or taxpayer money had gone to their campaign.

"These are false allegations and they have nothing to do with reality," Dweck said.

McLaughlin also cited an effort "to organize the [Israeli] Arabs into one party and teach them about voter turnout."

"The State Department people in the end of January, early February, expedited visas for [Israeli] Arab leaders to come to the United States to learn how to vote," McLaughlin said.

"There were people in the United States that were organizing them to vote in one party so they would help the left-of-center candidate, Herzog, that the Obama administration favored," he added.

Already tense relations between Obama and Netanyahu escalated this week after Netanyahu's pre-election promise to not allow a Palestinian state. He later backed down after White House criticism, though Obama suggested in an interview released Saturday he wouldn't brush off the comments.

"They were running an ACORN, Obama Organizing for America-type campaign over there with the digital ads, the billboards, the phones. They were targeting Israeli voters," Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.) said Saturday on Fox News's "Justice with Judge Jeanine."

"I think the president, Tuesday night, felt like he lost," said Zeldin, who along with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) has questioned the Obama administration over OneVoice's funding and nonprofit status. 

--This report was updated at 9:18 p.m.

 

http://thehill.com/policy/international/236565-netanyahu-pollster-obama-role-in-election-larger-than-reported

 

 

The undeniable point in all of this is that yes, Obama MEDDLED in another country's election. FAR more than Russia did with our election, and with far more ' ducks on the ground ', as it were as well. 

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5 hours ago, AURaptor said:

 How am I an easy mark? Nothing I posted was inaccurate. 

The Moonie Times headline was an outright lie. Ignore the alt-news spin, read the senate report.

 

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18 minutes ago, Bigbens42 said:

The Moonie Times headline was an outright lie. Ignore the alt-news spin, read the senate report.

 

And all the other headlines?? You're intentionally missing the point