Popular Post StatTiger 3,188 Posted April 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2017 Jarrett Stidham: 16-20-0-267yds-0tds (192.1 rating) Malik Willis: 11-18-0-157yds-0td (134.4 rating) Breaking down the numbers (Stidham): Took 15 first down snaps with Auburn calling 13 pass plays on first down. Two of those pass plays result in Stidham running out of the pocket. This translated to 86.6% pass plays called on first down with Stidham. Of his 20 pass attempts, 7 were intermediate to deep routes (35%). He produced four 30+ pass play and seven impact plays. The goal is to generate an impact play in the passing game with 1 under every 5 pass attempts. Stidham hit 1 every 2.9 attempts. He threw the ball 11 times on first down and only twice on 3rd down. During five of Malzahn's seven seasons at Auburn, the Tigers threw more passes on third down than first down. It was great to see the offense passing when they "wanted" more so than when they "had to". 11 of his 20 pass attempts were within 5-yards of the line of scrimmage (55%). Stidham would have passed for 300-yards if not for a dropped wheel route. Breaking down the numbers (Willis): He had a passer rating of 114.4 playing with the No. 2 offense vs. the No. 1 defense. He had a pass rating of 144.4 with the No. 1 offense vs. the No. 2 defense. He also took 15 first down snaps, with 9 of the plays being pass plays (60.0%). Chip Lindsey was more conservative with Malik early on and opened it up more during the second half. Of his 18 pass attempts he connected on one play of 30+ yards and five impact plays. He produced an impact play 1 every 3.6 pass attempts with the goal being under 5.0. He attempted 8 passes on first down compared to 3 attempts on third down. 9 of his 18 attempts were within 5-yards of the line of scrimmage (50%). 5 of his 18 attempts were intermediate to deep passes. Overall, Auburn's quarterbacks compiled a pass rating of 177.8 with the goal being 130 or better. Offensive observations: With the quarterbacks not being alive, it was clear there were some impact plays that could have been made by the QB's running the football. Both Stidham and Willis could apply a lot of pressure on opposing defenses, passing and running the football. I really liked the double move routes stemming from the screen packages. The screen game was multiple with quick, bubble and tunnel screens. Auburn set up some nice vertical passes off the screen look. The swing passes to the RB's should be a nice addition in 2017. I saw it at least two times, where a WR ran a shallow crossing route and a RB released up the middle, crossing over with the WR. It worked to perfection both times. The defense over the middle (LB's) committed to the WR on the cross as the RB delayed his release, crossing over in the opposite direction. This was a great addition to the passing game and an easy read for the QB. Last season, the obvious issue on first down was the 80% run plays called. Compounding the issue was the same up the middle runs frequently called. During A-Day, we saw a lot of sweeps with at least 1 pulling guard. There were two delay draw plays on 1st down that targeted the perimeter on first down. Mixing up the run plays on first down will make he offense difficult to defend. The WR stack formations opened up a lot of passing options. There were multiple shallow clearing and rub routes yesterday. Lindsey targeted the middle of the field regularly, which was GREAT to see. Not sure if it were a designed play or if Will Hastings made an adjustment on his own but his 33-yard pass play was a thing of beauty. It began as a stacked route with Hastings faking a screen. He broke off the fake screen, and ran towards the middle of the field on a shallow route. Stidham looked vertical initially and checked down to Hastings coming over the middle. The 4-yard pass turned into a 33-yard gain. It will be huge if the WR's are permitted to adjust their routes based on the opposing coverage. It was clear Stidham did a great job of moving through his progressions with viable "checkdown" passes available in the pass offense. Willis did not do it as much but did come off his primary target several times. I thought he played well for a true freshman. Stidham and Willis combined for 19 pass attempts on first down for 155-yards. Kam Martion dropped a wheel-route on 1st down that would have netted at least 33 yards. Final Observations: The A-Day game is a glorified scrimmage and the offense should look productive under these circumstances but there was plenty to like simply based on formations and schemes. I would imagine Lindsey and Gus Malzahn kept it vanilla but there were some obvious additions to the offense. Watching Nate Craig-Myers, Marquis McClain and Darius Slayton attacking the ball with their hands at the highest point was something to watch for moving forward. Three pass plays to the TE's was nice to see. Lindsey stated his primary goal as the OC is to get the ball to his playmakers. I thought he did a great job of attempting this during A-Day. Speaking of playmakers, I believe Kam Martin could be a huge playmaker in 2017 as a runner and receiver out of the backfield. It will be interesting to see how Lindsey utilizes Martin this season. With just the 4 returning RB's, I see the position being a strength in 2017, not to mention the two freshman coming in. If they can stay healthy for the most part, Auburn should be solid. It will be interesting to see what the coaches decide to do with Willis in 2017. Stidham, White and Barrett should be more then enough to work through the season as long as everyone remains healthy. I would hate to see Willis burning an entire year for minor "mop up" duty. It would be logical to red shirt Willis in 2017 but he certainly looks like an "up and comer". Though this feature was directed towards he offensive side of the football, I had to mention the play of Daniel Thomas at safety. He plays the run very well and doesn't shy away from contact. I believe he forced two fumbles during A-Day and the defense needs playmakers like that. War Eagle! 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTim 3,454 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Thanks and WDE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUMASTERS 555 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 It was great to see the offense passing when they "wanted" more so than when they "had to". Can I get an amen; agreed with almost everything else you said in the post, but it looked to me like Kam Martin had a less than stellar day (fumbled, missed wheel route), but I know he has potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFE12 9,188 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) It's always boggled my mind that we haven't done the normal plays like crossing routes/slants, passing to te's, swing passes to hb's, wr's adjusting their routes...this is all stuff that need to be incorporated and I'm glad this stuff is finally. This is one of the reasons that sammie coates has had a hard time adjusting in the nfl among other reasons. KJ and Kam will be something special catching the ball and playmaking and bubba is certain to surprise us. I wanted more passes to sal cannella but I think he will be one of the prime redzone targets that we've needed for so long. Oh boy it's feeling like 2014 hype-wise again for me...there is just NO way that we underachieve even with the hard schedule. Edited April 9, 2017 by WFE12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUIH1 1,515 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Good stuff as always Stat. The proof will be in the pudding when the real games start. wde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaitopher 807 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 If Stidham gets hurt in a critical game I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Willis' redshirt gets burned. With SW out much of the offseason I have this lingering concern that he will never be 100% again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lala 327 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Awesome stat! It was incredible watching them throw the ball. It is funny you talking about it being vanilla and it was more open than I can remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,222 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 33 minutes ago, thaitopher said: If Stidham gets hurt in a critical game I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Willis' redshirt gets burned. With SW out much of the offseason I have this lingering concern that he will never be 100% again. Not happening 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,222 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 @StatTiger how does this team measure up with regards to the 20 start stat you present? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle79 3,569 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 4 hours ago, WFE12 said: It's always boggled my mind that we haven't done the normal plays like crossing routes/slants, passing to te's, swing passes to hb's, wr's adjusting their routes...this is all stuff that need to be incorporated and I'm glad this stuff is finally. What pictures would you put on the posters on the sideline to call those plays...lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFE12 9,188 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, oracle79 said: What pictures would you put on the posters on the sideline to call those plays...lol? Idk ,wish i had something witty for you but I don't lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehighfan 1,234 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 All I've got to see us just a few highlights but I sure did like what I saw from Stidham. But I was wondering why Barrett played very, very little? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80Tiger 886 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 4 hours ago, milehighfan said: All I've got to see us just a few highlights but I sure did like what I saw from Stidham. But I was wondering why Barrett played very, very little? I think it is somewhat of the fact that he did not play much, is the answer. At the moment there looks to be 4 QB's better than he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linayus 676 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 If Stidham is not the starter, it will be because of injury (or suspension if he breaks a team rule or something). He just looks too comfortable already to say he'd be behind Sean on the depth chart. I know Sean didn't play but he did come out and warm up with the QBs and looked good throwing the ball. I don't think there will be any doubts he can fill in as needed during the season, barring further injuries. As for who is behind Sean at the #3 spot.. well, Woody, I guess? Malik looks better but I hope they redshirt him to preserve his eligibility. Just from what I observed, Woody may never step on the field except in blowout games. I won't be surprised to hear of him applying for a transfer after this season (especially if we land the QB recruits we want for 2018). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan adams 333 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 17 hours ago, thaitopher said: If Stidham gets hurt in a critical game I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Willis' redshirt gets burned. With SW out much of the offseason I have this lingering concern that he will never be 100% again. Sean White's time as QB should be done at Auburn. By no means am I dissing on him, but I don't think he is even our second-best option at QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaitopher 807 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, logan adams said: Sean White's time as QB should be done at Auburn. By no means am I dissing on him, but I don't think he is even our second-best option at QB. If he is 100% healthy I would have to disagree. If not, I would probably agree with you. The only player I could potentially see passing up an injured SW would be Malik Willis, but the coaching staff is probably hesitant to burn his redshirt. WB looks far far from being able to play a meaningful snap at QB - if I had to predict his career I would say he eventually changes positions or transfers - but maybe not, hope I am wrong. Edited April 10, 2017 by thaitopher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, logan adams said: Sean White's time as QB should be done at Auburn. By no means am I dissing on him, but I don't think he is even our second-best option at QB. gotta disagree....a healthy SW is a very good QB who could play at most SEC schools. Sure you have to cherry pick the games he's played in to see what he is capable of, since he has been injured to one extent or another in most of the games he has started. He has some seriously good stats despite his health problems. JMO but he is a very solid #2 at the least...and while I'm a big fan of Willis, a red shirt season would do wonders for is future. As for Woody.....i'm thinking his QB career at AU is over. Seems to be a good kid but not SEC ready. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80Tiger 886 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, AU64 said: gotta disagree....a healthy SW is a very good QB who could play at most SEC schools. Sure you have to cherry pick the games he's played in to see what he is capable of, since he has been injured to one extent or another in most of the games he has started. He has some seriously good stats despite his health problems. JMO but he is a very solid #2 at the least...and while I'm a big fan of Willis, a red shirt season would do wonders for is future. As for Woody.....i'm thinking his QB career at AU is over. Seems to be a good kid but not SEC ready. While not completely in disagreement, if JS went down with an injury and we were still in the thick of the conference race, I would not be surprised to see Willis getting some opportunities. While it was just a spring game, he looked dynamic. And while he is a just a freshman, he actually has more time in the Chip Lindsey offense than SW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,646 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 24 minutes ago, AU64 said: gotta disagree....a healthy SW is a very good QB who could play at most SEC schools. Sure you have to cherry pick the games he's played in to see what he is capable of, since he has been injured to one extent or another in most of the games he has started. He has some seriously good stats despite his health problems. JMO but he is a very solid #2 at the least...and while I'm a big fan of Willis, a red shirt season would do wonders for is future. As for Woody.....i'm thinking his QB career at AU is over. Seems to be a good kid but not SEC ready. have to agree with 64. If Stidham is the starter and we have a healthy SW. we have the best #2 QB in the conference or nation for that matter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Defiant 133 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) I believe that Sean White is a good SEC quarterback. What everyone must realize is that a Quarterback needs a scheme to match his talents and Sean is a pro style QB. The scheme that we have been running for the past two years has had terrible WR routes, just deplorable. We were basically running a version of the Deleware Wing T/triple option. What you have to be impressed with is that on first down almost 4 out of 5 times, we ran the ball. Sean had to make most of his throws when opposing defenses expected the pass, and he had the highest QBR in the league ladies and gentlemen! The kid was and is good, in this scheme he would be better, dare I say pre-injury very close to Stidham. Coach Lindsay's scheme is what a college level offensive scheme should look like in the modern era. It should have viable reads so that when the NFL caliber rushers in the SEC hit the edge, the QB can seamlessly drop the ball into a check off so he can avoid getting pounded. That didn't happen for Sean very much last year, have you thought maybe If he had a scheme that would help him out HE WOULDN'T BE SO INJURY PRONE. How about you all stand back there while Miles Garrett is coming and Gus calls a play where two wide receivers are on fly routes and the other is running a deep post! What about that third down play during the Texas A&M game where on third and long we do the reverse fake and Sean gets creamed. ABSOLUTELY IDIOTIC PLAY-CALLING FOR A PRO STYLE QB.. This scheme that Coach Lindsay has already implemented is ten times better. We actually have detailed routes, we have drags patterns, we have crossing patterns, shallow rubs and we utilize every eligible receiver! If the linemen can gel and be on top of their blocking assignments this scheme is a Qbs dream. I am excited because I SEE DEVELOPMENT, ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT for the first time with the wide receivers and QBs in three years on offense. This will always baffle me though, Gus Malzahn has been called a "offensive genius." I will never understand his mode of thought these past two years, hell maybe he was going through a midlife crisis (insert snarky comment about his Suicide door BMW here) but his schemes were so incredibly simplistic and not much above Pop Warner schemes you see in your community YMCA. If you are a person who is excited out of their mind about Jarrett Stidham, that's great. HOWEVER, pump your brakes if you think he is the next Jon Stauback! The dude went against the second defense, we should probably be more impressed by what Malik Miller did against the 1s, but who knows how good the 1s are as a unit. You will never truly know what kind of QB or football player you have unless you let them go live 1s vs. 1s with no orange jerseys. IRON SHARPENS IRON BOYS Edited April 10, 2017 by The Defiant Because of grammar 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcivE09 582 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Pretty much how I have felt about SW. The kid makes good choices and I never had to hold my breath when he was throwing the ball. He has 2 knocks that, unfortunately, are not good qualities for an SEC QB - injury prone and trouble with throws over 20-25 yards. There are a lot of "what ifs" had he been given the opportunity to throw to a more diverse set of routes and kept out of obvious pass situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, AUcivE09 said: Pretty much how I have felt about SW. The kid makes good choices and I never had to hold my breath when he was throwing the ball. He has 2 knocks that, unfortunately, are not good qualities for an SEC QB - injury prone and trouble with throws over 20-25 yards. There are a lot of "what ifs" had he been given the opportunity to throw to a more diverse set of routes and kept out of obvious pass situations. This may be the first time in his career at AU that an offense is well suited for Sean. If he is healthy, I think he would be a dangerous quarterback running the offense we saw on Saturday. Stidham has better prospects but if he were hurt I would not worry much if Sean were sent in.JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUld fAUx@ 2,584 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, AUcivE09 said: Pretty much how I have felt about SW. The kid makes good choices and I never had to hold my breath when he was throwing the ball. He has 2 knocks that, unfortunately, are not good qualities for an SEC QB - injury prone and trouble with throws over 20-25 yards. There are a lot of "what ifs" had he been given the opportunity to throw to a more diverse set of routes and kept out of obvious pass situations. 5 minutes ago, AU64 said: This may be the first time in his career at AU that an offense is well suited for Sean. If he is healthy, I think he would be a dangerous quarterback running the offense we saw on Saturday. Stidham has better prospects but if he were hurt I would not worry much if Sean were sent in.JMO Mr. White has carried his skills to the table. Iff [sic] he's still broken, we (alas) broke him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 16,796 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 3 hours ago, AU64 said: gotta disagree....a healthy SW is a very good QB who could play at most SEC schools. Sure you have to cherry pick the games he's played in to see what he is capable of, since he has been injured to one extent or another in most of the games he has started. He has some seriously good stats despite his health problems. JMO but he is a very solid #2 at the least...and while I'm a big fan of Willis, a red shirt season would do wonders for is future. As for Woody.....i'm thinking his QB career at AU is over. Seems to be a good kid but not SEC ready. Woody is as ready as sw was as a redshirt freshman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 16,796 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Now that's a qb and an offense! Like I've always been saying you have to be able to stretch the field and isn't it amazing how the wr's get better when they get more attempts and targets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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