homersapien 11,354 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Here you go Rapture. You were constantly bitching about Obama's extravagant travel expenses. How does that look now? He has spent 21 days of his 80-day presidency at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, at an estimated cost of $21.6 million. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-travel-tab-dwarfs-obamas_us_58ec5dbde4b0df7e2044b2fe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,765 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Trump is working. Getting things done. Barry played golf and raised money for Democrats. Nothing more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mims44 1,864 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Can we do like the football forum and merge all the "Trump spends money" threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 31 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: Trump is working. Getting things done. Barry played golf and raised money for Democrats. Nothing more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,471 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 hour ago, SaltyTiger said: Trump is working. Getting things done. Barry played golf and raised money for Democrats. Nothing more Bulls**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,121 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 More fake news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,471 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 44 minutes ago, AURaptor said: More fake news They offered figures. If you dispute the figures, prove otherwise. If not, stop throwing out "fake news" as a synonym for "things I don't like." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordoAU 87 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 This is a dumb thing to complain about on both sides. Maybe we should look at how the economy is doing to judge a president?? That sounds reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 2 hours ago, GordoAU said: This is a dumb thing to complain about on both sides. Maybe we should look at how the economy is doing to judge a president?? That sounds reasonable. It wouldn't be an argument if Trump hadn't started it in the first place. Trump made it a point to call out Obama on vacation spending and supporters echoed those concerns, so the chickens are coming home to roost. See the article below for a more detailed breakdown, including some of Trump's earlier tweets knocking Obama. http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/10/politics/donald-trump-obama-travel-costs/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordoAU 87 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: It wouldn't be an argument if Trump hadn't started it in the first place. Trump made it a point to call out Obama on vacation spending and supporters echoed those concerns, so the chickens are coming home to roost. See the article below for a more detailed breakdown, including some of Trump's earlier tweets knocking Obama. http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/10/politics/donald-trump-obama-travel-costs/index.html Still do not care. I always thought it was dumb when Republicans complained about it with Obama and it is dumb now that people complain it about Trump. Hell people complained about it with Bush too. This stuff does not matter and sure Trump used it to make Obama look bad but that's a norm for politicians to do to try and get elected. Trump and Obama often did business during these so called "vacations". I look at economy, social issues, and defense for my judging of a president. People need to stop being petty over trivial things and both sides are just as bad. It's annoying and start focusing on things that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,121 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 5 hours ago, TitanTiger said: They offered figures. If you dispute the figures, prove otherwise. If not, stop throwing out "fake news" as a synonym for "things I don't like." I can't prove otherwise because the SS don't reveal how much security costs, so they just dreamed up those #'s in the first place. ' This is the essence of fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Raptor. New United Airlines Spokesperson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,121 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, AUUSN said: Raptor. New United Airlines Spokesperson. Does that you the criminal doctor who traded drugs for gay sex ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaltyTiger 7,765 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 end of the day Barry vacationed 8 long years on the tax payers tab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,813 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 10 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: Trump is working. Getting things done. Barry played golf and raised money for Democrats. Nothing more One of the stupidest post ever on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,471 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 10 hours ago, AURaptor said: I can't prove otherwise because the SS don't reveal how much security costs, so they just dreamed up those #'s in the first place. ' This is the essence of fake news. They weren't dreamed up numbers when you folks were bitching about Obama's travel costs. All of the sudden it's some inscrutable, incalculable figure we can't possibly know. Hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,360 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,121 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 hour ago, TitanTiger said: They weren't dreamed up numbers when you folks were bitching about Obama's travel costs. All of the sudden it's some inscrutable, incalculable figure we can't possibly know. Hypocrite. Not hypocritical at all. You act as if CNN and other news agencies haven't declared war on this administration. They are not above fake news. You blindly accept their assumptions and calculations with no pause to think that they might be fixing the numbers? Gullible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,471 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 58 minutes ago, AURaptor said: Not hypocritical at all. You act as if CNN and other news agencies haven't declared war on this administration. They are not above fake news. You blindly accept their assumptions and calculations with no pause to think that they might be fixing the numbers? Gullible You and your ilk lambasted Obama over all the money spent on his and his family's travel expenses. You trusted the numbers then just fine. All of the sudden because it's someone of your tribe on the receiving end of that critique, it's "blindly accepting assumptions" and "fixing the numbers." Hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strychnine 1,802 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 hour ago, TitanTiger said: They weren't dreamed up numbers when you folks were bitching about Obama's travel costs. All of the sudden it's some inscrutable, incalculable figure we can't possibly know. Hypocrite. It stands to reason that the Mar-a-Lago weekends would be quite expensive and burdensome to the local community. Air Force One and at least one C-17 are carrying Trump and the motorcade vehicles, with an additional C-17 if they are also transporting a helicopter to serve as Marine One. Multiple shifts worth of Secret Service agents, in sufficient quantity to secure both the President and the premises, have to be transported, fed, and housed. The military officer carrying the football has to be fed and housed, as do the crews of the aforementioned Air Force One, accompanying C-17's, and vehicles and helicopters they are carrying. Local law enforcement in the surrounding area has to increase shift staffing, most likely with overtime. An estimated cost of several million dollars per trip is quite reasonable. Aircraft operating costs alone are likely hitting or exceeding the million dollar mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,471 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, Strychnine said: It stands to reason that the Mar-a-Lago weekends would be quite expensive and burdensome to the local community. Air Force One and at least one C-17 are carrying Trump and the motorcade vehicles, with an additional C-17 if they are also transporting a helicopter to serve as Marine One. Multiple shifts worth of Secret Service agents, in sufficient quantity to secure both the President and the premises, have to be transported, fed, and housed. The military officer carrying the football has to be fed and housed, as do the crews of the aforementioned Air Force One, accompanying C-17's, and vehicles and helicopters they are carrying. Local law enforcement in the surrounding area has to increase shift staffing, most likely with overtime. An estimated cost of several million dollars per trip is quite reasonable. Aircraft operating costs alone are likely hitting or exceeding the million dollar mark. No, no, no. It's the librul media cooking up numbers they can't possibly know or understand to pick on President Cheeto. Eight years worth of data used to scrutinize Obama's travel expenses has somehow magically become the hidden knowledge only the gods know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,121 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Obama took many trips to Hawaii, even almost every Christmas. One year he took 4 trips , just to come back to sign a photo op bill then hopped on AF 1 right after & fly back to Hawaii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strychnine 1,802 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 23 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: No, no, no. It's the librul media cooking up numbers they can't possibly know or understand to pick on President Cheeto. Eight years worth of data used to scrutinize Obama's travel expenses has somehow magically become the hidden knowledge only the gods know. Personally, I would like to see an effort to reduce the President's domestic travel expenses. I take no issue with any President's vacation time, as I know the job is a 24/7/365 on-call type of job, but the cost of domestic travel is ridiculous and I think a lot of it unnecessary. That said, Air Force One could likely be replaced for many trips with a C-37A or even a C-40 equipped to transport the President, family, and even guests. A 747-200 is substantial overkill for a 2.5 hour flight to a leisure destination. Is it really necessary to transport helicopters and motorcade vehicles for such trips, or would it make more sense for the Secret Service to rent SUV's locally and secure them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,471 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, AURaptor said: Obama took many trips to Hawaii, even almost every Christmas. One year he took 4 trips , just to come back to sign a photo op bill then hopped on AF 1 right after & fly back to Hawaii. And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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