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8 hours ago, GordoAU said:

Definitely not trying to bash Hastings at all. Just looking at him stand by other receivers he doesn't look like he's in the same league.  Nothing to do with skin color! haha I thought it was a just question. 

Plenty of people think he's not athletic strictly because of his skin color. Those same people still think that Jeremy Johnson is more mobile than Sean White. It's odd that the assumption persists even after both kids have proven otherwise. Neither of them are Eli Stove or Nick Marshall, but not many athletes are. 

But yeah, Will is definitely a small dude. About the same size as Ryan Davis. 

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15 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Plenty of people think he's not athletic strictly because of his skin color. Those same people still think that Jeremy Johnson is more mobile than Sean White. It's odd that the assumption persists even after both kids have proven otherwise. Neither of them are Eli Stove or Nick Marshall, but not many athletes are. 

But yeah, Will is definitely a small dude. About the same size as Ryan Davis. 

He's tiny. His helmet looks like it's going to tip him over. But, I don't really care about that. Guys like him learn very quickly how to protect themselves. He is sure handed, and gets in and out of his breaks better than anyone else on our team that I've watched. He catches the ball. He will help us, and that's all that matters. 

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I honestly think Hastings and Ryan Davis will be the heroes of the receiving corps whenever we play a team with a really solid secondary. They may be 3rd option for the pass, but having that third option open and capable of making a defender miss will be huge for our passing game when our deep threats are covered. They are also going to be invaluable for quick passes... Hastings actually might be best for those, since he has a knack for getting free early.

Then, once the D starts adjusting to cover the short pass, we hit Kyle Davis or Craig-Myers for 40+ yards.

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11 minutes ago, lionheartkc said:

I honestly think Hastings and Ryan Davis will be the heroes of the receiving corps whenever we play a team with a really solid secondary. They may be 3rd option for the pass, but having that third option open and capable of making a defender miss will be huge for our passing game when our deep threats are covered. They are also going to be invaluable for quick passes... Hastings actually might be best for those, since he has a knack for getting free early.

Then, once the D starts adjusting to cover the short pass, we hit Kyle Davis or Craig-Myers for 40+ yards.

What is really beautiful is that Chip might finally start using the quick outs, drag routes and such that will take advantage of everything you just described. The single most frustrating aspect of Gus's offense for me the last 3 years has been the absence of that stuff. 

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14 minutes ago, auburn4ever said:

IMO, Will is a darn good WR and I'm glad he's an Auburn Tiger.

damn straight a4e....

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Ppl being over dramatic . Will Hastings looks the part of a complementary receiver . As long as he continuously moving the sticks on short yardage plays and being the final outlet , he will be fine. I think ppl want him to be likened to MJ/Scottie pippen when he is more like Steve Kerr . That is fine . You need complementary players on championship teams . We just need to make sure the Michael Jordans and Scottie Pippens of our WR core play up to those standards .

 

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20 hours ago, oracle79 said:

 Probably not a great blocker because of size and strength mismatch with DB's (I haven't watched that specifically so just a guess based what it takes to block).  

Does Auburn have any current receivers who would be considered good to great blockers? I am struggling to come up with a name.

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I like Hastings. On The play where he ad libbed and broke off a route to come back for a crossing route was awesome.

I don't like the comparisons to new England receivers because even though they are short, they are built.

I do think of he gets hurt, then Ryan Davis or Eli Stove or Iggy could play that role.

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14 minutes ago, Randman5000 said:

I like Hastings. On The play where he ad libbed and broke off a route to come back for a crossing route was awesome.

I don't like the comparisons to new England receivers because even though they are short, they are built.

I do think of he gets hurt, then Ryan Davis or Eli Stove or Iggy could play that role.

They are also white. 

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13 minutes ago, Randman5000 said:

I don't like the comparisons to new England receivers because even though they are short, they are built.

Well, they do play in the NFL. I mean, I hear what you're saying, but relative to the defenses they're facing, Hastings isn't *that* much smaller.

And, again, the fact that he's small doesn't really mean much. In fact, as that Tray Matthews quote says, being smaller has advantages, too- maybe even enough to offset the perceived disadvantages. It might be one reason why the greatest dynasty in NFL history keeps going back to their "type". 

 

 

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I like him. Lot's of weapons on this team and I consider him to be one of them. Kid is sharp and fast. Have to assume these coaches will put in the right players any day now, considering the pressure to do so. I believe whichever guys (this year) we see as 1's and 2's will be the right picks.

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43 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Well, they do play in the NFL. I mean, I hear what you're saying, but relative to the defenses they're facing, Hastings isn't *that* much smaller.

And, again, the fact that he's small doesn't really mean much. In fact, as that Tray Matthews quote says, being smaller has advantages, too- maybe even enough to offset the perceived disadvantages. It might be one reason why the greatest dynasty in NFL history keeps going back to their "type". 

 

 

The only concern I have with his size is durability. But, durability is a crap shoot anyway, and like I mentioned earlier, small guys are usually pretty good at protecting themselves. Surprised people are still talking about this, honestly. 

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1 hour ago, alexava said:

They are also white. 

Yeah notice no T.Y. Hilton comparisons . Freaking stereotypes .

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1 hour ago, McLoofus said:

Well, they do play in the NFL. I mean, I hear what you're saying, but relative to the defenses they're facing, Hastings isn't *that* much smaller.

And, again, the fact that he's small doesn't really mean much. In fact, as that Tray Matthews quote says, being smaller has advantages, too- maybe even enough to offset the perceived disadvantages. It might be one reason why the greatest dynasty in NFL history keeps going back to their "type". 

 

 

Greatest dynasty in NFL history? New England won 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, and 6 overall?

 

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4 hours ago, McLoofus said:

Well, they do play in the NFL. I mean, I hear what you're saying, but relative to the defenses they're facing, Hastings isn't *that* much smaller.

And, again, the fact that he's small doesn't really mean much. In fact, as that Tray Matthews quote says, being smaller has advantages, too- maybe even enough to offset the perceived disadvantages. It might be one reason why the greatest dynasty in NFL history keeps going back to their "type". 

 

 

That much.. those receivers out weigh him by 30 pounds.

But I do understand  being short and quick as an advantage.

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4 hours ago, alexava said:

They are also white. 

We know that. It's a dumb comparison at this point in time. Hope that is what you mean. 

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8 minutes ago, Randman5000 said:

That much.. those receivers out weigh him by 30 pounds.

But I do understand  being short and quick as an advantage.

Wes Welker doesn't outweigh him by 30 pounds. Neither does Antonio Brown. Trindon Holliday weighs less. I didn't realize Edelman was as big as he is, though. 

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We comparing Will Hastings to AB and RB/Special team specialist Trindon Holliday now ? Haha 

 

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50 minutes ago, Randman5000 said:

We know that. It's a dumb comparison at this point in time. Hope that is what you mean. 

I don't know what you mean but the constant comparisons to all short white recievers are noted. We got it. 

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I don't think anyone made this point:  we are months away from the season...  I think if W Hastings did great, that is awesome.  Will it motivate the other receivers to step it up and close the game on Hastings and Nate Craig-Myers?   It better because the ball is going to be tossed around with some accuracy.

Will Hastings get injured?  Maybe, but Wes Welker and Cole Beasley (75 receptions last yr with Cowboys) seem to have a role with good teams.  And any receiver can  get injured.   

Hastings productivity is great.  This should motivate others!   And yes, he is elusive and hard to cover.  Maybe he should slide before contact after he gains a bunch of yards.  Sounds dumb, but no fumbles....

 

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Not going to do a bunch of research to list names but I see lots of Hastings type/sized guys playing that slot...and frankly, Stove is not that much bigger or heavier.  Just seems that quick guys like that have a knack for finding an opening in the defense..... and I bet all of them have the attitude that they have to "work harder."

I did note that the Baylor team has a handful of WRs about Hastings size...165-185 pounds so maybe Stidham likes throwing to guys like him ?.  

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I get so tired of stereotypes....first Hastings is very athletic, second nobody knows anything about him having a high football iq or being any better at route running than anybody else....to be honest don't really know about his hands yet because he is always catching short passes. But if he's playing it's because he's good enough to be out there. 

As far as disdain for him I've never saw that. Now I had a problem with them throwing a fade route to him in the redzone.....I don't care how big of a fan you are he's not that type of guy. Line him up and get a safety or linebacker on him yes. Fade to the corner??? Stupid. 

Oh and let's be real jf3 fumbles twice what does this board do?? That in itself should tell you he's not one of the more "hated" on players....

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1 hour ago, AU64 said:

Not going to do a bunch of research to list names but I see lots of Hastings type/sized guys playing that slot...and frankly, Stove is not that much bigger or heavier.  Just seems that quick guys like that have a knack for finding an opening in the defense..... and I bet all of them have the attitude that they have to "work harder."

I did note that the Baylor team has a handful of WRs about Hastings size...165-185 pounds so maybe Stidham likes throwing to guys like him ?.  

It's mainly because of mismatches. You're going to have your best corners on the outside with the best wr's unless the small guy is such a big time player the defense matches him up with their best corner every play....

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59 minutes ago, cole256 said:

It's mainly because of mismatches. You're going to have your best corners on the outside with the best wr's unless the small guy is such a big time player the defense matches him up with their best corner every play....

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