Nick Marshall

[DAG 33,968]

Our favorite son Nick Marshall has been suspended for the first four games of the NFL season r/t Peformance enhancement drugs. I am going to give him the benefit of a doubt and take his word that it was an accident. Got to be smarter though.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19159552/new-york-jets-cornerback-nick-marshall-banned-four-games-violating-league-ped-policy

[AUBwins 10,074]

Being a guy that is trying to secure playing time, this hurts. Then again, if he was already a bench player than maybe not as big a deal

[GwillMac6 20,666]

I totally and wholeheartedly am ok with this. He is a fringe NFL Roster guy so try to gain every possible advantage you can to try and gain a edge to be a better player who sticks in the league. Do not blame him one bit. He is not a star player he had nothing to lose by this. He was probaly going to be cut before the season anyways.

[Randman5000 4,226]

2 hours ago, GwillMac6 said:

I totally and wholeheartedly am ok with this. He is a fringe NFL Roster guy so try to gain every possible advantage you can to try and gain a edge to be a better player who sticks in the league. Do not blame him one bit. He is not a star player he had nothing to lose by this. He was probaly going to be cut before the season anyways.

Isn't Aderall on their list of PEDs? Could just getting into pills maybe. 

[GwillMac6 20,666]

2 minutes ago, Randman5000 said:

Isn't Aderall on their list of PEDs? Could just getting into pills maybe. 

I believe so. I remember someone actually getting suspended for that awhile ago actually. good find.

[Mikey 16,575]

3 hours ago, GwillMac6 said:

I totally and wholeheartedly am ok with this. He is a fringe NFL Roster guy so try to gain every possible advantage you can to try and gain a edge to be a better player who sticks in the league. Do not blame him one bit. He is not a star player he had nothing to lose by this. He was probaly going to be cut before the season anyways.

So, it's ok to cheat if that helps you land a job? You can be ok with this, I'm not.

[GwillMac6 20,666]

17 minutes ago, Mikey said:

So, it's ok to cheat if that helps you land a job? You can be ok with this, I'm not.

I am totally ok with using HG, PEDs, steroids or whatever in baseball, basketball or football. Just makes for a better product. I want the best of the best AT their best. And to answer your question.... YES! No shame in admitting that for me. I know a lot of people will disagree but o well! They usually do anyways! haha. WOOOOO!!!!

[passthebiscuits 6,844]

Was told from source that it was to try to bulk up. Tifwiw. Still, can't imagine what it's like to have your very livelihood on making a job and taking a ped may help...not saying it's right, just saying it ain't that easy to make that decision. Would hope that this helps develop NMs character and he uses the lesson for good.

[Mikey 16,575]

5 hours ago, passthebiscuits said:

Was told from source that it was to try to bulk up. Tifwiw. Still, can't imagine what it's like to have your very livelihood on making a job and taking a ped may help...not saying it's right, just saying it ain't that easy to make that decision. Would hope that this helps develop NMs character and he uses the lesson for good.

He was supposed to use the lesson for character development when he got caught with weed in his possession back at Auburn. I'm not sympathetic. What's the future in football look like for someone that has to cheat simply to keep a place on the roster? I can't think it's very promising anyway. Doping up and getting caught just speeds up the departure from pro football.

[Gowebb11 9,314]

Between brain injures and steroids, the line between the NFL and WWE continues to merge. 

[alexava 6,973]

I worry being a fringe player is the reason NOT to get nabbed for this. I hope he gets another shot. But I didn't think athleticism was what was holding him back anyway. Honing skills at a position he has plenty of talent to play should be the focus. 

[alexava 6,973]

10 hours ago, Randman5000 said:

Isn't Aderall on their list of PEDs? Could just getting into pills maybe. 

Where did it indicate Aderral?

[AU64 10,122]

10 hours ago, Mikey said:

So, it's ok to cheat if that helps you land a job? You can be ok with this, I'm not.

Thank you...thought I was going to have to burst the bubbles...that cheating is OK if you have to do so to beat out a team mate for playing time...

[jluvah 664]

12 hours ago, GwillMac6 said:

I am totally ok with using HG, PEDs, steroids or whatever in baseball, basketball or football. Just makes for a better product. I want the best of the best AT their best. And to answer your question.... YES! No shame in admitting that for me. I know a lot of people will disagree but o well! They usually do anyways! haha. WOOOOO!!!!

Man, what is this world coming to???

[AUIH1 1,515]

9 hours ago, passthebiscuits said:

Was told from source that it was to try to bulk up. Tifwiw. Still, can't imagine what it's like to have your very livelihood on making a job and taking a ped may help...not saying it's right, just saying it ain't that easy to make that decision. Would hope that this helps develop NMs character and he uses the lesson for good.

NIck has been having character development issues since he signed with uga coming out of HS.  I am a huge fan of Nick in terms of his play as our QB in 2013 and 2014, but good decision making in terms of how he conducts himself off of the field has not been one on his strong points.

 

wde

[WarTiger 3,901]

13 hours ago, GwillMac6 said:

I am totally ok with using HG, PEDs, steroids or whatever in baseball, basketball or football. Just makes for a better product. I want the best of the best AT their best. And to answer your question.... YES! No shame in admitting that for me. I know a lot of people will disagree but o well! They usually do anyways! haha. WOOOOO!!!!

WOW. There's no much idiocy here, not sure where to begin.  I mean, really?  These are deemed Illegal by the organization they work for.  They are illegal for a reason.  NO, it does not make for a better product.  They have no place in sports at all.    Not sure how these make them "at their best" when the organization suspends players for it as they should and the penalties for this crap should be stiffer than they currently are.

[GwillMac6 20,666]

3 hours ago, WarTiger said:

WOW. There's no much idiocy here, not sure where to begin.  I mean, really?  These are deemed Illegal by the organization they work for.  They are illegal for a reason.  NO, it does not make for a better product.  They have no place in sports at all.    Not sure how these make them "at their best" when the organization suspends players for it as they should and the penalties for this crap should be stiffer than they currently are.

The dude does NOT abide! haha. Well Thats like your opinion man. I mean baseball was never more popular than during the steroid era. Made for a more entertaining exciting product. It is a huge part of the game that baseball tries to ignore and therefore because of their hard stance like this a lot of all time greats from that era will not get in to the HOF. I have your opinion I have mine. Notice I never bash you for yours and you continually seem to bash me and others for opinions that you do not have. I for one welcome a good healthy debate and love when people disagree it is what makes this place a lot more fun. It does make them at their best because they can avoid and recover from injuries a lot faster than if they are not taking them which is honestly the reason a lot of upper echelon athletes take them. I am all for world class athletes to be at their top of their game and extend their careers and prime longer. You have said yourself you do not like nor watch pro sports so why does it matter to ya one way or another? But its all good fam! I enjoy our back and forth sparring! It keeps me on my toes!!

[Randman5000 4,226]

8 hours ago, alexava said:

Where did it indicate Aderral?

That is why  it was a question. They don't name substances usually. PassTheBiscuits answered it. 

[auburn4ever 1,266]

Why would anyone who's doing all they can to make it big in the NFL mess with enhancement drugs. I'm sorry, but I just don't understand that one little bit.

[PowerOfDixieland 3,226]

16 hours ago, GwillMac6 said:

I mean baseball was never more popular than during the steroid era.

Baseball is an entertaining sport without influence of outside forces, the home run frenzy made it something it isn't.  College baseball went through a similar anomaly with the old BESR bats that gave guys the ability to hit home runs like they were on steroids.  The argument you make implies that the consuming public knew what was going on and went away simply because the PED's went away.  It was just the media frenzy over three guys (Bonds, McGuire and Sosa) that went away.  You're man Kershaw probably wouldn't be as effective if the ban weren't in place and it's awesome to me to watch a guy like that and not wonder what might have been.  He simply has a God given talent that good old fashioned and clean hard work has nearly perfected to the point of dominance.  The problem, which is age old, is that when money is involved the selfish human nature drives people to do things they shouldn't do.  It's the simple reason why laws are in place. 

I'm pretty well convinced the side effects of PED's is what took down the circus that was a certain golfer that wore red on Sunday.  I enjoy golf far more without him.

[GwillMac6 20,666]

2 hours ago, PowerOfDixieland said:

Baseball is an entertaining sport without influence of outside forces, the home run frenzy made it something it isn't.  College baseball went through a similar anomaly with the old BESR bats that gave guys the ability to hit home runs like they were on steroids.  The argument you make implies that the consuming public knew what was going on and went away simply because the PED's went away.  It was just the media frenzy over three guys (Bonds, McGuire and Sosa) that went away.  You're man Kershaw probably wouldn't be as effective if the ban weren't in place and it's awesome to me to watch a guy like that and not wonder what might have been.  He simply has a God given talent that good old fashioned and clean hard work has nearly perfected to the point of dominance.  The problem, which is age old, is that when money is involved the selfish human nature drives people to do things they shouldn't do.  It's the simple reason why laws are in place. 

I'm pretty well convinced the side effects of PED's is what took down the circus that was a certain golfer that wore red on Sunday.  I enjoy golf far more without him.

golf execs enjoy the game far less without ol Eldrick. Ratings are down across the board without him! haha.

[mustache eagle 2,397]

Nick gambled and lost ... he should have worked on his back pedal, hips and film of quarterbacks - not trying to bulk up.

[AU-24 3,063]

On 4/15/2017 at 11:58 AM, jluvah said:

Man, what is this world coming to???

Oh spend a-little time on the political thread, you will see what the world is coming to. 

Yes, it is sad!

[gman87 398]

Since when does cheating make something better? IMO, all athletics should be a function of God given ability and hard work. When you introduce a wild card factor like PEDs that one person may take and another may not, you skew the playing field into an unbalanced and unnatural environment. In a way, I would think it detracts from a sport, not make it better.

[AU64 10,122]

1 minute ago, gman87 said:

Since when does cheating make something better? IMO, all athletics should be a function of God given ability and hard work. When you introduce a wild card factor like PEDs that one person may take and another may not, you skew the playing field into an unbalanced and unnatural environment. In a way, I would think it detracts from a sport, not make it better.

Well stated......

Just to note.....the Pirate's all star CF just got an 80 day suspension for PEDs usage....a still penalty that was approved by the Players Association in their contract....showing that the vast majority of players want to know that they are not playing against "juiced up" opponents.