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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/3/15910508/america-the-diminished

What Trump has wrought.

We are diminished when our president lies, and even more so when we begin taking his habitual lying for granted....

We are diminished when our president uses cyberbullying as a communications strategy, spending his mornings picking childish fights on Twitter and coming up with insulting nicknames for his enemies.....

We are diminished when our president spends his time and energy — and thus the nation’s time and energy — on the wrong issues.....

We are diminished when the president knows nothing about the issues he faces, and does not try to learn more.....

We are diminished when our political leaders excuse or ignore behavior they know is wrong.....

We are diminished when the people who need America’s mercy and protection most are harmed in service of lies and bigotry......

We are diminished when the rest of the world comes to doubt our leadership and reliability.....

We are diminished when our president has little respect for the institutions and norms that have protected our country.......  

 

Read the full article - providing backup to these statements - at: 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/3/15910508/america-the-diminished

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Wow, another hard hitting Vox piece...that's some major fact filled journalism for you...how about this:

  • We are diminished when a grown men and women can't accept the results of an election.
  • We are diminished when because of their constant derangement, they endlessly look for grand conspiracies and deflections that allow them to ignore that their own pathology is to explain for their circumstances 
  • We are diminished when grown men and women called the Press use terms like cyber-bullying as if they are 13 year old school girls to describe what is happening to them in response to their childish haranguing...
  • We are diminished when the press makes a mockery of the amendment that was put in place to protect them and thinks only they have a right to the protections of that amendment
  • We are diminished when the bystander class thinks their opinions matter more than the people actually doing the living and dying and suffering from the governments failed policies and the press's complicity in them
  • We are diminished when a party runs the worst candidate in the history of presidential candidates (well, since Mondale and Dukakis anyway) and spends over $1b trying to promise my children's future away in exchange for votes to elect said pathetic candidate
  • We are diminished when grown men and women see the world thru rose colored glasses and think citizens of other nations deserve our tax dollars more than our own children
  • We are diminished when an entire political party will slander and defame honorable men and women in pursuit of their agenda to ignore our constitution
  • We are diminished when our own citizens think our foreign policy should place the interests of other nations above those of our own  
  • And lastly, we are diminished when an entire political establishment cares so little about the citizens that it is supposed to server that it calls them names, tries to cast them as the problem and blames them for said establishments moral bankruptcy and complete abandonment of principles
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16 minutes ago, japantiger said:

Wow, another hard hitting Vox piece...that's some major fact filled journalism for you...how about this:

  • We are diminished when a grown men and women can't accept the results of an election.

Who hasn't "accepted the results" of the election?

You seem to be confused between the difference of accepting the results and being happy about them.

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15 minutes ago, japantiger said:

Wow, another hard hitting Vox piece...that's some major fact filled journalism for you...how about this:

  • We are diminished when a grown men and women can't accept the results of an election.
  • We are diminished when because of their constant derangement, they endlessly look for grand conspiracies and deflections that allow them to ignore that their own pathology is to explain for their circumstances 
  • We are diminished when grown men and women called the Press use terms like cyber-bullying as if they are 13 year old school girls to describe what is happening to them in response to their childish haranguing...
  • We are diminished when the press makes a mockery of the amendment that was put in place to protect them and thinks only they have a right to the protections of that amendment
  • We are diminished when the bystander class thinks their opinions matter more than the people actually doing the living and dying and suffering from the governments failed policies and the press's complicity in them
  • We are diminished when a party runs the worst candidate in the history of presidential candidates (well, since Mondale and Dukakis anyway) and spends over $1b trying to promise my children's future away in exchange for votes to elect said pathetic candidate
  • We are diminished when grown men and women see the world thru rose colored glasses and think citizens of other nations deserve our tax dollars more than our own children
  • We are diminished when an entire political party will slander and defame honorable men and women in pursuit of their agenda to ignore our constitution
  • We are diminished when our own citizens think our foreign policy should place the interests of other nations above those of our own  
  • And lastly, we are diminished when an entire political establishment cares so little about the citizens that it is supposed to server that it calls them names, tries to cast them as the problem and blames them for said establishments moral bankruptcy and complete abandonment of principles

We've been diminished by many things. We are most diminished when we defend, excuse and embrace someone who embodies the worst of us. One can rationally critique the shortcomings of the media, Democrats, liberals, the establishment, etc. without minimizing the shortcomings of the current President or deflecting from them.

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18 minutes ago, japantiger said:

Wow, another hard hitting Vox piece...that's some major fact filled journalism for you...how about this:

  • We are diminished when because of their constant derangement, they endlessly look for grand conspiracies and deflections that allow them to ignore that their own pathology is to explain for their circumstances 

Really?   You don't think there as any reason at all to suspect there might have been collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians?

Do you deny the Russians interferred in the election?

Do you deny that Trump himself gave the Russian investigation as the reason he fired Comey?

I think you need to revisit the term derrangement.  I may apply to you.

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21 minutes ago, japantiger said:

Wow, another hard hitting Vox piece...that's some major fact filled journalism for you...how about this:

  • We are diminished when grown men and women called the Press use terms like cyber-bullying as if they are 13 year old school girls to describe what is happening to them in response to their childish haranguing...
  • We are diminished when the press makes a mockery of the amendment that was put in place to protect them and thinks only they have a right to the protections of that amendment

This is confusing.  Are you referring to Trump?  

If not, can you be more specific?

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23 minutes ago, japantiger said:

Wow, another hard hitting Vox piece...that's some major fact filled journalism for you...how about this:

  • We are diminished when the bystander class thinks their opinions matter more than the people actually doing the living and dying and suffering from the governments failed policies and the press's complicity in them


Again, not sure what you are getting at here.   Can you provide an example?

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24 minutes ago, japantiger said:

Wow, another hard hitting Vox piece...that's some major fact filled journalism for you...how about this:

  • We are diminished when a party runs the worst candidate in the history of presidential candidates (well, since Mondale and Dukakis anyway) and spends over $1b trying to promise my children's future away in exchange for votes to elect said pathetic candidate

Are you trying to make an excuse for Trump by blaming the Democrats?

What does that say about Trump?

Not to change the subject, but speaking of your children's future, how do you feel about anthropogenic global warming?

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28 minutes ago, japantiger said:

Wow, another hard hitting Vox piece...that's some major fact filled journalism for you...how about this:

  • We are diminished when grown men and women see the world thru rose colored glasses and think citizens of other nations deserve our tax dollars more than our own children

How much aid are we offering now?  

Do you think all foreign aid is a bad thing?  

Do you think the future of our own children will not be affected - even in the slightest - by global issues?

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31 minutes ago, japantiger said:

Wow, another hard hitting Vox piece...that's some major fact filled journalism for you...how about this:

  • We are diminished when an entire political party will slander and defame honorable men and women in pursuit of their agenda to ignore our constitution

I am not aware of any political "party" slandering and defaming honorable men and women in pursuit of their agenda.

I am aware that Trump has done so, but I don't think he really represents a whole political party, even though his party hasn't really gone out of their way to decry his slander and defamation.

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34 minutes ago, japantiger said:

Wow, another hard hitting Vox piece...that's some major fact filled journalism for you...how about this:

  • And lastly, we are diminished when an entire political establishment cares so little about the citizens that it is supposed to server that it calls them names, tries to cast them as the problem and blames them for said establishments moral bankruptcy and complete abandonment of principles

I agree!  

The obvious example is Republican healthcare and tax policy.  That goes beyond "name calling" and actually hurts most citizens - pretty much everyone who isn't very wealthy which is the great majority.

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10 hours ago, homersapien said:

Who hasn't "accepted the results" of the election?

 

I laughed. Thanks!

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20 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Well, maybe you need to tell us what you mean by "accepted".

I think you and a handful of others (they know who they are) have done a fine job of defining accepted:laugh:

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