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Just now, CleCoTiger said:

If it was linked to recruiting, Ole Miss is in even more trouble with the NCAA. However, at the presser they were explicit in stating that this had nothing to do with the NCAA or its infraction case against Ole Miss. They were also explicit in saying that the reason Freeze resigned and gave up any buyout was because of a pattern of personal behavior that emerged. Both of those things are kind of hard to square with your take.

Full transcript of the press conference is here:  http://olemiss.247sports.com/Article/Full-Transcript-Of-The-Hugh-Freeze-Resignation-Press-Conference-104513581

Already taking a knee on this!! JUST GIVE ME THE L on this one fam!!! lol

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4 minutes ago, milehighfan said:

So, Matt Luke gets the unenviable task of leading this team. Didn't he played QB at Ole Miss at one time?

believe he was one of the hog mollies.

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So I guess the REC showed Ole Miss what happens when you beat>:D with illegally recruited players. Only >:D is allowed to recruit, sign and play illegally recruited players.

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I feel really bad for the Ole Miss fan base. Possibly my favorite SEC school to visit. 

 

Praying for his family.  I can't even imagine how they feel right now.  I hate seeing people enjoy this because that is just messed up. 

Malzahn has got to pick better friends. 

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7 hours ago, auburnphan said:

called an escort from school phone on accident, led to finding a bunch of other issues

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/hugh-freeze-resigns-ole-miss-school-discovered-call-escort-service-234821463.html

"Tuohy's Escorts, this is Leigh Ann speaking."

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Not that i would know or anything, but you mean to tell me it never crossed his mind or was suggested to use a burner phone? 10-20$ trac phone could of saved you 4 million...

 

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6 hours ago, CleCoTiger said:

If it was linked to recruiting, Ole Miss is in even more trouble with the NCAA. However, at the presser they were explicit in stating that this had nothing to do with the NCAA or its infraction case against Ole Miss. They were also explicit in saying that the reason Freeze resigned and gave up any buyout was because of a pattern of personal behavior that emerged. Both of those things are kind of hard to square with your take.

Full transcript of the press conference is here:  http://olemiss.247sports.com/Article/Full-Transcript-Of-The-Hugh-Freeze-Resignation-Press-Conference-104513581

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4 hours ago, GordoAU said:

I feel really bad for the Ole Miss fan base. Possibly my favorite SEC school to visit. 

 

Praying for his family.  I can't even imagine how they feel right now.  I hate seeing people enjoy this because that is just messed up. 

Malzahn has got to pick better friends. 

Not trying to preach but just an opinion. Maybe Malzahn should keep his friends and work on influencing them positively instead. See Mark 2:17, On hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” 

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Hate to see this from a man who calls himself a Christian and he probably is and we all sin daily but this causes much pain to his family.  I will pray for him and his family for sure but it's easy to keep your nose clean when you have a desire to do so.  

I'll end this with this.

Real Eyes

Realize

Real Lies

 

 

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8 hours ago, keesler said:

There's no one to blame in this whole OleMess saga but OleMess.  No one made them commit Academic Fraud, no one forced their track & field program to cheat, no one caused the WBB program to cheat and land on probation, no one forced their Asst Athletic Director to create an extensive network of over a dozen Boosters with over 3 dozen players and recruits, no one made Hugh Freeze sit in a recruits home with a Booster in attendance, and no one forced Hugh Freeze into a pattern of immoral contact with escort services on his freaking company issued phone.  WTH Hugh, are you a complete idiot?

OleMiss folks have tried to lay the blame on Mullen and MSU,  folks have pointed finger at uat and Saban,  now Houston Nutt has made an appearance in the blame game.  

I've said it before, and I'll say it again......The Institution known as OleMiss has NO Control of a damn thing within their athletics.  .The NCAA camped out for damn near 5 years, and OleMiss admitted that they cheated while under the NCAA investigation.  WTH Freeze/Bjork are you both totally brain dead? 

The blame for this current dumpster fire lays entirely on Ole Miss.

Well stated K.....all the stuff you detailed is probably just what is known or made public.   If there was ever a situation where "lack of institutional control" applied...well other than UNC.....this is it and if the NCAA had courage of it's supposed convictions the athletic program would be taking a couple year hiatus.

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8 hours ago, GwillMac6 said:

I personally do not think he was cheating on his wife. I think it all pertained to recruiting and was for recruits. Not that it makes it right (it doesn't). Of course this is a total guess on my part. But hey if he was cheating well.... I will own it and admit my opinion was wrong. LIKE IT USUALLY IS! haha

I don't know anything other than what everyone else knows. I don't know if he was cheating on his wife or not, but they would not be pulling out the "Moral turpitude" clause for recruiting violations. If he was calling escorts for his recruits, that's unconscionable and a firing offense, but the "turpitude" big stick is generally for personal behavior.

Regardless, he be gone. Like my Momma always said, "Stupid is as stupid does".

 

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A few observations on this.

First, I understand Houston Nutt was suing and by suing was able to gain access to records under disclosure. However, using the records for some other purpose than the subject of the lawsuit seems unethical. Also, it seems the university, which is the defendent in Nutt's lawsuit, was involved, which suggests a deal between the university and Nutt. Also one news organization reported Nutt's lawyer threatened Ole Miss via email with the public release of the information, stating a "phone call Coach Freeze made that would be highly embarrassing for all of you and extremely difficult to explain." That definitely strikes me as unethical, but it might be normal when trying to negotiate a settlement, in the sense that all of that information would come out in court. But again, Hugh Freeze's sexual picadillos are irreverent to Nutt's lawsuit. Nor is Hugh Freeze's self-promotion of his Christianity, and his visible hypocrisy relevant to Nutt's lawsuit.

Not to defend Freeze, but this was based on call records, which showed a 1 minute call to a number associated with an escort service. Did that phone record show the time of the call to the second, and if only the minute, how long would a 5-second call be presented in that record?

Third, how did Nutt's lawyers looking through several years of phone records know to try to correlate the numbers with known escort services? There has to be more smoke there. There had to be rumors, evidence, or perhaps private investigators with information on Freeze.

Given Freeze resigned, I think there is fire here. If it was a misdialed number, he probably would have held on, let Ole Miss fire him, and sue.

Regarding a possible misdial, there would likely be a call immediately following to a similar number. My guess is that is not there.

But if it was to an escort service, there would likely be more than one, one-minute call--but perhaps those other calls were done on a personal phone.

Ole Miss said they Freeze resigned due to a "pattern of personal misconduct". That suggests it was more than just one call. Again, I wonder if there is a quid-pro-quo between Nutt and Ole Miss which said they would only release information regarding one call in return for some settlement and to give Freeze an out without too much damage.

Questions: Is Nutt's vendetta against Ole Miss or Hugh Freeze? Is a settlement coming between Ole Miss and Nutt (I would bet strongly on this).

Regardless, Freeze can overcome the personal foibles (see Bobby Petrino). The NCAA violations are a bigger challenge. However Houston Nutt is now toxic. No one will want this guy anywhere near their program ever again. I think there are reasons Nutt was known to have personality conflicts with those around him, and never found his way back into coaching after Ole Miss fired him.

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I think that I'm at a point were I can not feel bad for athletes and coaches who risk millions of dollars for doing what appears to be the dumbest things.    

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19 minutes ago, meh130 said:

A few observations on this.

First, I understand Houston Nutt was suing and by suing was able to gain access to records under disclosure. However, using the records for some other purpose than the subject of the lawsuit seems unethical. Also, it seems the university, which is the defendent in Nutt's lawsuit, was involved, which suggests a deal between the university and Nutt. Also one news organization reported Nutt's lawyer threatened Ole Miss via email with the public release of the information, stating a "phone call Coach Freeze made that would be highly embarrassing for all of you and extremely difficult to explain." That definitely strikes me as unethical, but it might be normal when trying to negotiate a settlement, in the sense that all of that information would come out in court. But again, Hugh Freeze's sexual picadillos are irreverent to Nutt's lawsuit. Nor is Hugh Freeze's self-promotion of his Christianity, and his visible hypocrisy relevant to Nutt's lawsuit.

Not to defend Freeze, but this was based on call records, which showed a 1 minute call to a number associated with an escort service. Did that phone record show the time of the call to the second, and if only the minute, how long would a 5-second call be presented in that record?

Third, how did Nutt's lawyers looking through several years of phone records know to try to correlate the numbers with known escort services? There has to be more smoke there. There had to be rumors, evidence, or perhaps private investigators with information on Freeze.

Given Freeze resigned, I think there is fire here. If it was a misdialed number, he probably would have held on, let Ole Miss fire him, and sue.

Regarding a possible misdial, there would likely be a call immediately following to a similar number. My guess is that is not there.

But if it was to an escort service, there would likely be more than one, one-minute call--but perhaps those other calls were done on a personal phone.

Ole Miss said they Freeze resigned due to a "pattern of personal misconduct". That suggests it was more than just one call. Again, I wonder if there is a quid-pro-quo between Nutt and Ole Miss which said they would only release information regarding one call in return for some settlement and to give Freeze an out without too much damage.

Questions: Is Nutt's vendetta against Ole Miss or Hugh Freeze? Is a settlement coming between Ole Miss and Nutt (I would bet strongly on this).

Regardless, Freeze can overcome the personal foibles (see Bobby Petrino). The NCAA violations are a bigger challenge. However Houston Nutt is now toxic. No one will want this guy anywhere near their program ever again. I think there are reasons Nutt was known to have personality conflicts with those around him, and never found his way back into coaching after Ole Miss fired him.

Nutt's attorney requested the phone records of a specific time frame (a very small period of a week or two) and found the single call to the escort service.  Leads me to believe that Nutt had prior knowledge of Freeze's indiscretions.

Nutt & Co. gave a heads up to OleMiss (Bjork) and told them the ish was about to hit the fan publicly and it would cause OM serious embarrassment.  OM approached Freeze about the one phone call and he told them it was a "mistake", a mis-dial, he didn't know who he was calling, etc.  OM chose to review his phone records over a much broader time frame and found a "pattern" of improprieties on those records.  So upon finding the pattern of personal misconduct and with knowledge that the employee they have vehemently defended and stood behind in the wake of severe NCAA allegations lied to them, they had no recourse but to force a resignation or terminate him with cause due to his immoral actions.  Freeze pissed away over $15mm buyout, and still faces a potential Show Cause from the NCAA along with a FTM tag.

Now, who gave the smoking gun intelligence to Nutt?  Could it have been a spurned Barney Farrar?  Barney was made the scapegoat in all of the NCAA allegations, Barney said he thought "they were all in it together" and OM kicked him to the curb.  Barney even mentioned that "some" OM folks in high places weren't owning up and taking their fair share of the blame.  In any event, Nutt's attorney has now requested Freeze's phone records from as far back as Jan 2012 ~ so it appears this latest is just the tip of the iceberg. 

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10 hours ago, GwillMac6 said:

I personally do not think he was cheating on his wife. I think it all pertained to recruiting and was for recruits. Not that it makes it right (it doesn't). Of course this is a total guess on my part. But hey if he was cheating well.... I will own it and admit my opinion was wrong. LIKE IT USUALLY IS! haha

The dude was making calls to escorts on "recruiting trips" in Tampa.  Come on ... 

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8 minutes ago, Tiger said:

got a good kick out of this: 

 

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LOLLL

Don't laugh too much. It doesn't say the next Head Coach, just Coach. 

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1 minute ago, McLoofus said:

Part of why I'm taking no delight in this.

True good point

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