AU64 10,122 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, boisnumber1 said: Nope. They wont even get a sniff from any reputable coach with experience. Not a chance. Agree....the problems at OM are not over....bet there are more penalties to come and until the school does some housekeeping of influential boosters a new coach could never be sure what was going on behind the scenes. A corrupt program right now...and who wants to risk a career involved with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTiger 3,896 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, lutzcammed said: I bet they have allready put in a call to ole les.. I'll bet they haven't and they never will. Miles is too old and with more penalties likely coming, he's not going to step in that mess and be the face of a program pushing through major sanctions. Ole Miss isn't going to get to pick from the upper echelon of collegiate coaches. They also aren't going to hire a coach now anyway. They've already appointed an interim coach that will likely get them through this season, then re-evaluate the situation and also see what the NCAA does to them before they even think about hiring a permanent coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,924 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 hour ago, WarTiger said: I'll bet they haven't and they never will. Miles is too old and with more penalties likely coming, he's not going to step in that mess and be the face of a program pushing through major sanctions. Ole Miss isn't going to get to pick from the upper echelon of collegiate coaches. They also aren't going to hire a coach now anyway. They've already appointed an interim coach that will likely get them through this season, then re-evaluate the situation and also see what the NCAA does to them before they even think about hiring a permanent coach. Agree 100%. OM has no idea what sanctions they will be dealing with after the NCAA lays down the hammer. From what I hear Luke will be a good interim and he will rely heavily on McGriff's leadership, guidance, character, and personality to see them through this season. McGriff will do wonders for player/team morale, he will be the glue that holds those guys together. I will say this, IMHO Ross Bjork needs to be canned immediately along with several others in their AD. The things that were over looked, and allowed to transpire within his athletics is repugnant. THREE sports on probation, multiple coaches fired due to infractions in multiple sports with his own Asst AD at the core of the Booster/recruit/player network. He failed to do the simplest of things, monitor the phone records of his top recruiters (Freeze/Farrar.) There was zero Compliance in that AD, which is abhorrent under any Athletic Director. Does anyone think for a millisecond that Jay Jacobs would be retained under those circumstances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82be 14,403 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 57 minutes ago, WarTiger said: I'll bet they haven't and they never will. Miles is too old and with more penalties likely coming, he's not going to step in that mess and be the face of a program pushing through major sanctions. Ole Miss isn't going to get to pick from the upper echelon of collegiate coaches. They also aren't going to hire a coach now anyway. They've already appointed an interim coach that will likely get them through this season, then re-evaluate the situation and also see what the NCAA does to them before they even think about hiring a permanent coach. And it's a good opportunity for Matt Luke. It won't be easy but if he can hold this team together with any semblance of order and be competitive it will only help him down the line. Not an enviable position but the door has been opened for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Interesting comments by Tubbs today suggesting that they need to clean house . Apparently he has a connection to Matt Luke and is going to help him figure out where the program needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumterAubie 3,031 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Kinda gives a new meaning to Hotty Toddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutzcammed 469 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 21 hours ago, WarTiger said: I'll bet they haven't and they never will. Miles is too old and with more penalties likely coming, he's not going to step in that mess and be the face of a program pushing through major sanctions. Ole Miss isn't going to get to pick from the upper echelon of collegiate coaches. They also aren't going to hire a coach now anyway. They've already appointed an interim coach that will likely get them through this season, then re-evaluate the situation and also see what the NCAA does to them before they even think about hiring a permanent coach. I definitely didn't say I think he would show any interest. but I kinda picture them going into full panic mode. I would. and a call by the ole miss athletic director saying Les would you be .......inteterupted by a no thank you. well it wouldn't be out of reason for them to gauge his Interest. although on the other side. I'm sure your right. I'm wrong more often than not I never thought Ed orgeron would land his newest gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creed 1,629 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 22 hours ago, GwillMac6 said: Cutcliffe went 7-4 and 7-6 with eli as his starting QB before they went 10-3 his senior season. EHHHHHH. Well if football was an individual sport I could see your previous point concerning who is their best coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strychnine 1,802 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 4 hours ago, WarTiger said: Ole Miss isn't going to get to pick from the upper echelon of collegiate coaches. They also aren't going to hire a coach now anyway. They've already appointed an interim coach that will likely get them through this season, then re-evaluate the situation and also see what the NCAA does to them before they even think about hiring a permanent coach. While they have never really been able to pick from the upper echelon of collegiate coaches, this seems like it would push them into plumbing the depths of FCS or even high schools. Giving a promotion to an FBS coordinator or position coach is likely best-case scenario. They might strike gold under such circumstances, but I think the odds are against them. A sane coach looking to move up in (or into) the FBS world would be unwise in attempting to helm a program like Ole Miss, under sanctions, in the SEC West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUld fAUx@ 2,584 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 19 hours ago, gr82be said: And it's a good opportunity for Matt Luke. It won't be easy but if he can hold this team together with any semblance of order and be competitive it will only help him down the line. Not an enviable position but the door has been opened for him. Vegas, it would seem, sees a chance: From BetOnline, published at https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/newest-odds-smu-coach-chad-morris-favorite-land-ole-miss-job/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-HANDLEY-TIGER 205 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 If escorts were hired for minors does this open Ole Miss up to lawsuits from the families of recruits? I would be mad as hell if this would have been offered to my son! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,955 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, AU-HANDLEY-TIGER said: If escorts were hired for minors does this open Ole Miss up to lawsuits from the families of recruits? I would be mad as hell if this would have been offered to my son! Would you be even more mad at your son for accepting ? I am all for ole miss getting punished hardcore for their actions but I hope parents don't see $$$ based on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 9,310 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 On 7/21/2017 at 2:10 PM, WarTiger said: I'll bet they haven't and they never will. Miles is too old and with more penalties likely coming, he's not going to step in that mess and be the face of a program pushing through major sanctions. Ole Miss isn't going to get to pick from the upper echelon of collegiate coaches. They also aren't going to hire a coach now anyway. They've already appointed an interim coach that will likely get them through this season, then re-evaluate the situation and also see what the NCAA does to them before they even think about hiring a permanent coach. What makes it even more grim for Ole Miss, is that there is a decent chance they will be competing with Texas A&M and Tennessee for a new coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-HANDLEY-TIGER 205 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 1 hour ago, DAG said: Would you be even more mad at your son for accepting ? I am all for ole miss getting punished hardcore for their actions but I hope parents don't see $$$ based on that. Of course but when you were 16 or 17 did you make the best choices? And to have a grown man offer your child inappropriate temptations , am I the only one who thinks that is lower than ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Gowebb11 said: What makes it even more grim for Ole Miss, is that there is a decent chance they will be competing with Texas A&M and Tennessee for a new coach. The possible timing is the only similarity.....OM is going to be in all kinds of NCAA trouble and I'm betting that boosters and school administrators have not heard the last of this either. Someone will have a major rebuilding job...similar to what Penn State faced....JMO. Luke apparently brings no baggage and predates the Freeze era....might be the best candidate to bring some credibility back to the athletic program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerfangs 269 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 21 hours ago, AU-HANDLEY-TIGER said: If escorts were hired for minors does this open Ole Miss up to lawsuits from the families of recruits? I would be mad as hell if this would have been offered to my son! Is this hypothetical? I don't have children, but agree that a person with his notoriety could easily tempt 17 year olds. I really hope they didn't offer the kids prostitutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick.AU 13,279 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcivE09 582 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Les is the best possibly option for Ole Miss at the moment and Ole Miss is the best Les could hope for even with sanctions. This would keep both the coach and school relevant with ZERO expectations. Pulling off a win against any team outside of Miss St in the SEC West would make a huge splash - and Les is the man to do just that to someone. If anything it would be EXTREMELY entertaining to watch! As crazy as the guy could be with calls at LSU - could you imagine what he would do with free reign he would be sure to get at Ole Miss?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcivE09 582 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 On 7/22/2017 at 9:16 AM, AUld fAUx@ said: Vegas, it would seem, sees a chance: From BetOnline, published at https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/newest-odds-smu-coach-chad-morris-favorite-land-ole-miss-job/ Why would Chad Morris do this to himself??? The guy could land just about any gig he wants at the moment. Why take this job when aTm could very well be open next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Just now, AUcivE09 said: Why would Chad Morris do this to himself??? The guy could land just about any gig he wants at the moment. Why take this job when aTm could very well be open next year? Why would anyone do this to themselves unless they are either on the sidelines looking in, because they lost their previous position, or they are looking to jump ahead as a head coach before the big schools think they are ready? Not only is any coach who takes the job walking into an NCAA tempest, but the overall administration is under fire, and you can bet that the Rec isn't going to back off until Ole Miss is irrelevant again, since Freeze dared play Saban's own game and beat him at it... twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaitopher 807 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I think this is the perfect job for Les Miles. He isn't going anywhere else. He has great character and probably wouldn't be going anywhere over the next 5 years or so (they will probably be sanctioned for 3 years). As a man who has spent the last 10 years in Louisiana, I have been following his coaching career. He is up there with March Richt in terms of his character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, lionheartkc said: Why would anyone do this to themselves unless they are either on the sidelines looking in, because they lost their previous position, or they are looking to jump ahead as a head coach before the big schools think they are ready? Not only is any coach who takes the job walking into an NCAA tempest, but the overall administration is under fire, and you can bet that the Rec isn't going to back off until Ole Miss is irrelevant again, since Freeze dared play Saban's own game and beat him at it... twice. Yeah I'm with you Lion. Ole Miss is going to struggle under any coach for the next 5 years. I don't care who it is. Ole Miss might be a good job for someone like Chad Morris after that (he'll certainly be a head coach somewhere else in 5 years), but not now. Too much heat from the NCAA. Scholarships lost. Recruits have backed off in a big way, and there will have to be a good bit of trust built back before Ole Miss is fighting for the kinds of kids they were fighting for a year ago. Here's another reality. Whatever bending of NCAA rules that Ole Miss could have gotten away with before, the kind of rule bending that we know happens across the country every day - Ole Miss won't be able to do that anymore. They are going to have to be extremely careful with everything they do now. That will hurt them. I don't believe that Les Miles is interested, even if he says he is. He wants to get back into coaching after this season. This is a great opportunity for him to start getting his name out there again and start stirring the pot. He will not be a coach at Ole Miss. Mark my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, thaitopher said: I think this is the perfect job for Les Miles. He isn't going anywhere else. He has great character and probably wouldn't be going anywhere over the next 5 years or so (they will probably be sanctioned for 3 years). As a man who has spent the last 10 years in Louisiana, I have been following his coaching career. He is up there with March Richt in terms of his character. What do you mean "he isn't going anywhere else"? Also, the Kansas State job will likely be open after this season. I know that Sean Snyder is the heir apparent, but that would be a perfect place for someone like Chad Morris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,924 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 26 minutes ago, lionheartkc said: Why would anyone do this to themselves unless they are either on the sidelines looking in, because they lost their previous position, or they are looking to jump ahead as a head coach before the big schools think they are ready? Not only is any coach who takes the job walking into an NCAA tempest, but the overall administration is under fire, and you can bet that the Rec isn't going to back off until Ole Miss is irrelevant again, since Freeze dared play Saban's own game and beat him at it... twice. The REC are relentless savages. Maybe they'll hack Matt Luke's company phone and start calling hookers like they did to Freeze. Perhaps they can put another plant inside the AD similar to Barney Farrar so he can continue hooking up Boosters with recruits & active players. They may get another Academic Fraud scheme started up to really seal the coffin on OM. They've certainly been on a mission for over 5 yrs to destroy the only team in the conference that beat them twice in a row, so there's no telling what's next on the REC agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Matt Luke is a good guy and good coach. He played for Tubs. That's the connection. Then he worked under Cut as a GA at Ole Miss and as an assistant at Duke. He also coached under Fulmer. He has a good support system of coaches that like him a lot and will do what they can to ease his transition. Luke is and easy guy to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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