thaitopher 807 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, bigbird said: Why 2/10 for Wison? Perception. Ohio State's offense is a disaster this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AubTigers 25 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Chip Kelly Gary Patterson(He was my #1 choice the last two times so might as well add him for a third) Jeff Brohm DJ Durkin Mike MacIntyre Justin Fuente Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburntiger1987 759 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, thaitopher said: Brent vennables - 8/10 Kevin Wilson - 2/10 Pat Narduzzi - 5/10 Paul Chryst - 6/10 Chad Morris 4/10 PJ Fleck 6/10 Dan Mullen 9/10 not sure why the Mullen love. I'd rather keep Gus than hire him. He's slimy, peaked, and will get out coached more so than most on that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, bigbird said: My first two calls would be to Vennables or Wilson The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Venables. I know the defense wouldn't take a step back and I'm pretty sure he'd be hands off with the O. Look at what Kirby is building at UGA. I think Venables may be Kirby-like, which would be a huge upgrade from what we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strychnine 1,802 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, auburntiger1987 said: not sure why the Mullen love. I'd rather keep Gus than hire him. He's slimy, peaked, and will get out coached more so than most on that list Mullen has done more at Mississippi State than anyone they hired in the last 50 years. A winning record there is not easy to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburntiger1987 759 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Strychnine said: Mullen has done more at Mississippi State than anyone they hired in the last 50 years. A winning record there is not easy to come by. I can agree on what he has done at state can not be ignored. I just dont know how much translation to Au it could have. I'm sure he will have more freedom at MSU, how would he handle a leash? Can he sustain positive results when a winning record isnt just appreciated but he is demanded to show even 9-10 win seasons and Championships? Can we all get past his sliminess and the Cam mess? Maybe i just hold a grudge too long and let it cloud my judgement. who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc4aday 1,887 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 On 9/11/2017 at 1:47 PM, SaturdayGT said: I really wish this would happen. While coach Steele has done a great job, he is not the HC we need. He was awful when he was the HC at Baylor years ago. He is happy where he is and will likely retire in a few years once he gets enough credits in the teacher retirement system of Al. However, whoever is chosen the next HC, he should keep the defensive staff intact except maybe a position coach and nothing more. The only offensive staffer would be Larry Porter. After him, clean house with the next HC. Who knows though, a new HC may want a clean slate or bring his staff over with him. I like the following men: 1. Brent Venables (Clemson DC blue chip hire) 2. Dave Aranda (LSU DC blue chip hire) 3. PJ Fleck (Minnesota Blue chip hire) He will come if we are willing to pay him what he is worth. 4. Justin Fuentes (VaTech HC another Blue chip hire) These are some bright young talented coaches who would do well at Auburn much like Dye & Tubs and possibly better. These are the only 3 I am interested in. I think we would do great with any of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike4AU 1,739 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I think Mullen is a much better coach than Gus. That said, he signed a 4 year extension with MSU in Feb 2017 and will make $4.5 this year. I just don't see AU even thinking about paying him more than that, plus a big buyout to come to AU. Some of the names mentioned in this thread (e.g., Urban, Shaw, Riley, Jimbo, Harbaugh, etc.) make me question the intelligence of some folks. Those guys have it made where they are and would consider a move to Auburn as a step down. Moreover, let's face it, there is no way they would take a job with JJ being the boss. Changes will have to be made in the AD to attract a really good coach, even an up and comer coach. We have a problem on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auhud08 596 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 What i like about venables- hes faced bama 2x now and i havent seen bama "figure him out". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadtownTiger 363 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 2 hours ago, NorthGATiger said: For many reasons this could be the correct hire. He would hire an OC to run the offense since he is a defensive guy. As a defensive guy he has first hand knowledge of what gives him the most problems defending. He, like most good coaches probably has a list of who he thinks the really good OC's are while facing them for years. As a DC he knows what he wants to do and also has an idea of who could implement what he wants. The hire could be like the Chizik hire where he hires a Gus type coach and leaves him alone. Hopefully Brett would be able to field good defenses and not end up crapping the bed like Gene did. For the reasons stated above I think if I were making the hire I would go to someone with a DC background. Hiring an offensive minded coach just leaves too much meddling in the offense and playcalling. Like we have now. You and I have wildly different recollections of how that went down. WDE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadtownTiger 363 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, Auhud08 said: What i like about venables- hes faced bama 2x now and i havent seen bama "figure him out". 76 points, 850 yards and no turnovers in two games. WDE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 10,995 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1. Petrino 2. Chip Kelley 3. Jeff Brohm 4. Venables 5. PJ That's my list. But for got sake get Jay Jacob's out of the Athletic Department! It's time for a fresh start. Give our next coach Saban control. Especially if it's Petrino or Patterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthGATiger 1,801 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, MadtownTiger said: You and I have wildly different recollections of how that went down. WDE! What I meant was we finished 2nd in the SEC in total offense in 2009, we know what we did in 2010. At least at first it appeared that GC let Gus do his thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnphan 6,050 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Anyone who does not run a gimmicky, sissy ass high school offense and has the ability to adjust a game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,955 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I think what we will have to realize as auburn fans is chances are we will have to bring in a veteran coordinator as a HC . I do not foresee us paying an exuberant amount of money for a veteran HC. I can also see them trying to keep it safe and consistent with KS as a head coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUApostle 7,648 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, DAG said: I think what we will have to realize as auburn fans is chances are we will have to bring in a veteran coordinator as a HC . I do not foresee us paying an exuberant amount of money for a veteran HC. I can also see them trying to keep it safe and consistent with KS as a head coach Why would we not go with a bold hire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGLEATON 1,244 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I now and forever after will like the idea of a Defensive HC... with a good OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadtownTiger 363 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 41 minutes ago, JGLEATON said: I now and forever after will like the idea of a Defensive HC... with a good OC. I regret that I have but one like to use for this post. -Nathan Hale, 1776 WDE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
api1957 1,783 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 My understanding is that GP didn't take the gig years ago was because he really dislikes Jacobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2kid 216 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1) Franklin but doubt he leaves Penn St 2) Venables please please no more Gus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strychnine 1,802 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 2 hours ago, auburntiger1987 said: I can agree on what he has done at state can not be ignored. I just dont know how much translation to Au it could have. I'm sure he will have more freedom at MSU, how would he handle a leash? Can he sustain positive results when a winning record isnt just appreciated but he is demanded to show even 9-10 win seasons and Championships? Can we all get past his sliminess and the Cam mess? Maybe i just hold a grudge too long and let it cloud my judgement. who knows No one can know how well anyone's career translates to Auburn, but it is logical to assume that if he has managed to succeed at a head coach graveyard, then he should be more effective at a program with more resources and a higher level of recruiting. He has, at least, shown us more than our last four head coaches have, prior to coming here. Can he sustain 9-10 win seasons and championships? Who knows. How can you know that about anyone? I think a coach that has demonstrated that he can be more successful than 50 years of predecessors at a difficult place to win is a safer bet than promoting any assistant coach. As for how would he handle a leash, why does there need to be a leash? If Auburn is going to have championship expectations, a leash coming from people incapable of providing them is something to be dispensed with. I think Auburn fans would have their Mullen memory wiped if he was successful, but I do not think it would be the most popular hire. I am not advocating Mullen, but I would not complain if Auburn hired him. If it were up to me, I would most likely hire him over giving the job to an assistant coach looking to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGLEATON 1,244 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, MadtownTiger said: I regret that I have but one like to use for this post. -Nathan Hale, 1776 WDE! "I don't think I've ever run out of likes on a weekday" -Abraham Lincoln, 1862 WDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburntiger1987 759 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Strychnine said: No one can know how well anyone's career translates to Auburn, but it is logical to assume that if he has managed to succeed at a head coach graveyard, then he should be more effective at a program with more resources and a higher level of recruiting. He has, at least, shown us more than our last four head coaches have, prior to coming here. Can he sustain 9-10 win seasons and championships? Who knows. How can you know that about anyone? I think a coach that has demonstrated that he can be more successful than 50 years of predecessors at a difficult place to win is a safer bet than promoting any assistant coach. As for how would he handle a leash, why does there need to be a leash? If Auburn is going to have championship expectations, a leash coming from people incapable of providing them is something to be dispensed with. I think Auburn fans would have their Mullen memory wiped if he was successful, but I do not think it would be the most popular hire. I am not advocating Mullen, but I would not complain if Auburn hired him. If it were up to me, I would most likely hire him over giving the job to an assistant coach looking to move up. I don't see how i can argue against any of that. I do feel though that even though we can agree that there should not be a leash on the head coach, our PTB cannot help themselves and get in the way of several facets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,955 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, AUDevil said: Why would we not go with a bold hire? Because you are going to have to spend $$$$$$$$$ for a bold hire. It is easy to talk about who you want when it isn't your own money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strychnine 1,802 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, auburntiger1987 said: I don't see how i can argue against any of that. I do feel though that even though we can agree that there should not be a leash on the head coach, our PTB cannot help themselves and get in the way of several facets I can understand PTBs/boosters having expectations, and influence if those expectations are not met. What I cannot understand is such people meddling or interfering with the football program, as if they have some form of superior knowledge transcending that of someone that does it for a living. If true, and I am not convinced that it is, then that firmly places all meddling PTBs/boosters among the dumbest collective of human beings currently walking this planet. That said, I do not think any form of meddling was responsible for something like Clemson 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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