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1. Pettway and KJ probably won't be 100% at any point this season - myriad of factors at play here, so keep your mind open:

  • They won't get enough rest, they're the only backs Gus trusts enough apparently to run against D1 competition
  • D1 competition hits really hard
  • HB dive up the middle first down after any type of running gain
  • They're injury prone 
  • They're VERY injury prone
  • Since they're injury prone in the same exact areas, defenses are probably just gonna scheme to hit them in the legs early in the game and go ahead and limit em since they know Gus won't actually take them out
  • They're just so damn injury prone

2. I love how Kerryon and Pettway's games complement each other when healthy. They're your dream two back set archetypes. Lacy and Yeldon. Royce Freeman and I think Thomas Tyner. Insert converted OSU RB playing QB and OSU RB. Just ideal running threats. A 240 pound bruiser with great first cut speed, strikes fear in a defender, respectable blocker, and falls forward for extra yards. A swift second option with fantastic open space moves and great hole vision. Runs the wildcat excellently. Fantastic receiving option. On paper, they're the best complementary duo you can find

3. We coulda had J-Rob, Roc, Pettway, and Kerryon all together last year. Obviously they all wouldn't have performed to their best abilities, with Gus's awful play calling and the lack of multi back formations. But man, that's just a scary thought. I still think Jovon is our overall best running back prospect since the mid-2000s, or at least that he had the potential to be so. Roc basically is a more souped up Kerryon, just not built to take quite as many hits. Didn't seem to have the injury bug though (more so the dog house bug). Imagine a two back set with Kerryon and J-Rob, Pettway at HB/TE and Roc in the slot. Whew.

4. I think we strongly need to start thinking about the future of the position. Aforementioned points aside, Kam Martin has shown multiple times he deserves touches. Devan Barnett has had all the rave reviews a rookie can possibly have. Malik Miller seems to have a floor of at least being Peyton Barber caliber (no disrespect to PB whatsoever). There might be other guys I'm forgetting, but if we're gonna throw this season away with uncreative running styles and atrocious passing plays, we might as well start getting some youth involved so they dont look shook once their number is called.

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Tiger    1,674

I don't have a problem with anything you said other than Roc Thomas didn't seem to have the injury bug. I don't think Roc went 10 carries in a row without having some sort of ailment forcing him out of the game. I don't even mean 10 carries in a row all at once, I mean total lol. 

Our roster could cause fits for DCs with multi-back sets and our WRs complementing them but I think the Monstars got Gus.

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RunInRed    1,228

Peyton and Roc would have made the dynamics interesting, to say the least.  Still, there's enough talent to make the offense go.

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Southwest    32

Although an epic collapse later on, the 2 back formation that the Aggies were using vs UCLA was scary. I was watching like why haven’t we used that through the years with our speed/power back combos?

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aujeff11    1,160
On 9/11/2017 at 2:49 AM, Dual-Threat Rigby said:

1. Pettway and KJ probably won't be 100% at any point this season - myriad of factors at play here, so keep your mind open:

  • They won't get enough rest, they're the only backs Gus trusts enough apparently to run against D1 competition
  • D1 competition hits really hard
  • HB dive up the middle first down after any type of running gain
  • They're injury prone 
  • They're VERY injury prone
  • Since they're injury prone in the same exact areas, defenses are probably just gonna scheme to hit them in the legs early in the game and go ahead and limit em since they know Gus won't actually take them out
  • They're just so damn injury prone

2. I love how Kerryon and Pettway's games complement each other when healthy. They're your dream two back set archetypes. Lacy and Yeldon. Royce Freeman and I think Thomas Tyner. Insert converted OSU RB playing QB and OSU RB. Just ideal running threats. A 240 pound bruiser with great first cut speed, strikes fear in a defender, respectable blocker, and falls forward for extra yards. A swift second option with fantastic open space moves and great hole vision. Runs the wildcat excellently. Fantastic receiving option. On paper, they're the best complementary duo you can find

3. We coulda had J-Rob, Roc, Pettway, and Kerryon all together last year. Obviously they all wouldn't have performed to their best abilities, with Gus's awful play calling and the lack of multi back formations. But man, that's just a scary thought. I still think Jovon is our overall best running back prospect since the mid-2000s, or at least that he had the potential to be so. Roc basically is a more souped up Kerryon, just not built to take quite as many hits. Didn't seem to have the injury bug though (more so the dog house bug). Imagine a two back set with Kerryon and J-Rob, Pettway at HB/TE and Roc in the slot. Whew.

4. I think we strongly need to start thinking about the future of the position. Aforementioned points aside, Kam Martin has shown multiple times he deserves touches. Devan Barnett has had all the rave reviews a rookie can possibly have. Malik Miller seems to have a floor of at least being Peyton Barber caliber (no disrespect to PB whatsoever). There might be other guys I'm forgetting, but if we're gonna throw this season away with uncreative running styles and atrocious passing plays, we might as well start getting some youth involved so they dont look shook once their number is called.

The RB group needs to get stronger and develop more depth. Have to think we could've used emergency RB Stanton Truitt last game and most definitely a ton next game. 

Third string back doesn't have to be Najee Harris but it needs to be quality enough to be allowed to run against Power 5 competition.

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DAG    2,608

Should've never lost Stanton Truitt.

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15 hours ago, aujeff11 said:

The RB group needs to get stronger and develop more depth. Have to think we could've used emergency RB Stanton Truitt last game and most definitely a ton next game. 

Third string back doesn't have to be Najee Harris but it needs to be quality enough to be allowed to run against Power 5 competition.

Yeah losing Stanton was very left field, but doesn't Eli Stove serve the same purpose? He isnt as jukey but 

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15 hours ago, Southwest said:

Although an epic collapse later on, the 2 back formation that the Aggies were using vs UCLA was scary. I was watching like why haven’t we used that through the years with our speed/power back combos?

Yeah they ran it down their throats for 3 quarters via traditional 1994 type NFL running game. It was remarkable, especially when u factor in they're supposed to be the air raid offense while we're run heavy. Last game we looked like a hapless talentless MAC team airing the ball out for entire drives 

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Southwest    32

No way am I an OC but a Kam&Kam backfield would be pretty unstoppable. Use a lot of motions and misdirection etc. Sprinkle in Eli from time to time but guess that’s not our identity

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aujeff11    1,160
9 minutes ago, Southwest said:

No way am I an OC but a Kam&Kam backfield would be pretty unstoppable. Use a lot of motions and misdirection etc. Sprinkle in Eli from time to time but guess that’s not our identity

That's what I'm saying 

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1913-14    157

Well it will be the Martin/Miller/ Barrett show this week...glad to see it...

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milehighfan    429

Maybe Auburn would consider moving McClain to RB. He's got the size, the speed and the strength, but one thing not working in his favor...he has Gus for a head coach.

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abw0004    781
On 9/11/2017 at 3:49 AM, Dual-Threat Rigby said:

1. Pettway and KJ probably won't be 100% at any point this season - myriad of factors at play here, so keep your mind open:

  • They won't get enough rest, they're the only backs Gus trusts enough apparently to run against D1 competition.
  • D1 competition hits really hard
  • HB dive up the middle first down after any type of running gain
  • They're injury prone.  All big time RB's can be hit with injuries (Chubb, Fournette, etc.)
  • They're VERY injury prone.  I would agree on KJ, KP not so much as PF can happen while you sleep to anyone
  • Since they're injury prone in the same exact areas, defenses are probably just gonna scheme to hit them in the legs early in the game and go ahead and limit em since they know Gus won't actually take them out.  I would expect to see Miller and Martin more and I trust Miller being the bowling ball RB, always have.
  • They're just so damn injury prone.  Luckily we have depth.

2. I love how Kerryon and Pettway's games complement each other when healthy. They're your dream two back set archetypes. Lacy and Yeldon. Royce Freeman and I think Thomas Tyner. Insert converted OSU RB playing QB and OSU RB. Just ideal running threats. A 240 pound bruiser with great first cut speed, strikes fear in a defender, respectable blocker, and falls forward for extra yards. A swift second option with fantastic open space moves and great hole vision. Runs the wildcat excellently. Fantastic receiving option. On paper, they're the best complementary duo you can find.  They still have time to do this, only in week 3.

3. We coulda had J-Rob, Roc, Pettway, and Kerryon all together last year. Obviously they all wouldn't have performed to their best abilities, with Gus's awful play calling and the lack of multi back formations. But man, that's just a scary thought. I still think Jovon is our overall best running back prospect since the mid-2000s, or at least that he had the potential to be so. Roc basically is a more souped up Kerryon, just not built to take quite as many hits. Didn't seem to have the injury bug though (more so the dog house bug). Imagine a two back set with Kerryon and J-Rob, Pettway at HB/TE and Roc in the slot. Whew.  Roc just was not ready for D-1 play and his 5* status got to him.  J-Rob always had issues, even before at JC.  He almost quit Auburn after the first year because he didn't start.  Also, if those two stayed, KP would still be at H-Back and may have never had been converted as he was only converted out of necessity.  It was almost a blessing those two guys left, so KP could shine.  I also like our recruiting.  Asa looks like he will be very good for us.

4. I think we strongly need to start thinking about the future of the position. Aforementioned points aside, Kam Martin has shown multiple times he deserves touches. Devan Barnett has had all the rave reviews a rookie can possibly have. Malik Miller seems to have a floor of at least being Peyton Barber caliber (no disrespect to PB whatsoever). There might be other guys I'm forgetting, but if we're gonna throw this season away with uncreative running styles and atrocious passing plays, we might as well start getting some youth involved so they dont look shook once their number is called.  I always liked Peyton Barber.  Never understood why many didn't see his full value.  He is also doing well in the NFL.  He came back last semester to finish school at Auburn.  Also, Auburn has the longest streak I believe in 1,000 yard rushers.  I think we will be fine in this position.  You could even go as far to call us RBU.  Horton does an outstanding job in coaching and recruiting these guys (in my opinion).  He also manages to find 3*'s and make them into 5* players (although we always land two 4* RB in each class it seems with a 5* every now and then).

My (minor) touch-ups.

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AURaptor    634

Neither should even play a down vs Mercer.  

* Kam Martin not having 1 carry vs Clemson doesn't make any sense. Both he and Miller should carry the bulk of the run game vs Mercer. 

 

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