Great Day for Sessions

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

It was great day in Congressional testimony today for Jeff Sessions. Hr took off the gloves and stood his groung with some a-hole senators. I'm really proud of him.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/18/sessions-clashes-with-franken-over-russia-claim-give-me-break.html

[TexasTiger 12,828]

3 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said:

It was great day in Congressional testimony today for Jeff Sessions. Hr took off the gloves and stood his groung with some a-hole senators. I'm really proud of him.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/18/sessions-clashes-with-franken-over-russia-claim-give-me-break.html

Gets testy when caught in a lie, don't he?

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

Just now, TexasTiger said:

Gets testy when caught in a lie, don't he?

He told no lies Franken...I mean Tex

[TexasTiger 12,828]

2 hours ago, Proud Tiger said:

He told no lies Franken...I mean Tex

They've all been caught in lies about Russia for some reason. Odd.

[HVAU 673]

2 hours ago, Proud Tiger said:

He told no lies Franken...I mean Tex

You are amazingly loyal and supportive in the face of overwhelming, damning evidence.  Numerous lies have been told by Sessions, Trump children, Kushner, other surrogates and Trump himself, when it comes to Russian conversations.  Will it add up to collusion or consequences?  None here know, but there are lies in abundance.

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

2 hours ago, HVAU said:

You are amazingly loyal and supportive in the face of overwhelming, damning evidence.  Numerous lies have been told by Sessions, Trump children, Kushner, other surrogates and Trump himself, when it comes to Russian conversations.  Will it add up to collusion or consequences?  None here know, but there are lies in abundance.

What lies has Sessions told? If you refer to the case with Franken awhile back any body would clearly see Sessions misunderstood the question. He later admitted such and corrected his answer. Did you even watch today's testimony. Sessions was very careful in answering the questions often for them to be repeated/clarified so that didn't happen again. Tell me anything he said today that is a lie.

I know Jeff personally. He is an honorable man so it's not amazing that I like him. he almost got fired for doing the righ thing in excusing himself from any Russian investigation.

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

2 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

They've all been caught in lies about Russia for some reason. Odd.

We would all like to see the truth about the Russian stuff but doubtful we will considering the news about Mueller's involvement in Hillary's uranium deal and donations to the Clinton Foundation. He should now do the honorable thing and resign.

[HVAU 673]

On the Uranium One deal, I'm going to reserve my opinion until this latest round of information is well digested.  The CFIUS had, if I recall correctly, eight separate, independent agencies involved in the approval of the sale.  The sale involved a foreign company (Canadian) owning and operating mines in the US being sold to another foreign entity (Russian).  

So far, I've seen no connection to Mueller in any reputable sources.

As regards the Clintons, all accounts indicating funding being funneled to the foundation show that it was done in an indirect manner.  In other words, millions of dollars were paid to an American entity, that money was dispersed to various influential functionaries, the foundation being one.  Does this mean the Clintons were knowingly accepting bribes?  I don't know.  It's certainly possible, but they are a very savvy political family, and I imagine if they were engaged in wrongdoing they structured it in a way in which they'd have plausible deniability.

Back to the Trumps, unfortunately for them, they haven't been so savvy in their communications with the Russians, and they've been caught in many lies.

On Sessions, I don't know him.  I don't agree with him in his support of Trump, his stance on for profit prison, his adherence to an outdated mindset when it comes to the drug war, his actions regarding voter rights, his positive attitude on civil asset forfeiture, etc.  He, unlike Trump, is political savvy enough to cover his lies in plausible deniability, which is exactly what occurred in the Franken exchange.

[HVAU 673]

1 hour ago, Proud Tiger said:

We would all like to see the truth about the Russian stuff but doubtful we will considering the news about Mueller's involvement in Hillary's uranium deal and donations to the Clinton Foundation. He should now do the honorable thing and resign.

Can you provide a link to your references indicating Mueller benefited from the Uranium One deal?  I'd like to see what connections you're referring to.

[SaltyTiger 7,782]

6 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Gets testy when caught in a lie, don't he?

 

4 hours ago, HVAU said:

You are amazingly loyal and supportive in the face of overwhelming, damning evidence.  Numerous lies have been told by Sessions, Trump children, Kushner, other surrogates and Trump himself, when it comes to Russian conversations.  Will it add up to collusion or consequences?  None here know, but there are lies in abundance.

Dream on guys. Proud of Jeff for clashing with old Al

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

29 minutes ago, HVAU said:

Can you provide a link to your references indicating Mueller benefited from the Uranium One deal?  I'd like to see what connections you're referring to.

I don't have an update link but it was all over the news last night following the release of new documents by the FBI. It first surfaced last August in the Assange stuff in this link:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/18/george-soros-transfers-18-billion-to-his-liberal-philanthropic-foundation.html

But the newly released papers clearly show he was on a board that approved the sale and has had some questionable association with the Clinton Foundation. Maybe more wwill surface shortly.

[SaltyTiger 7,782]

4 hours ago, HVAU said:

  Numerous lies have been told by Sessions, Trump children, Kushner, other surrogates and Trump himself, when it comes to Russian conversations.  Will it add up to collusion or consequences?  None here know, but there are lies in abundance.

What lies have been told. This is a statement. Need a link saying lie proven.

[HVAU 673]

10 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said:

I don't have an update link but it was all over the news last night following the release of new documents by the FBI. It first surfaced last August in the Assange stuff in this link:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/18/george-soros-transfers-18-billion-to-his-liberal-philanthropic-foundation.html

But the newly released papers clearly show he was on a board that approved the sale and has had some questionable association with the Clinton Foundation. Maybe more wwill surface shortly.

You mean one of these boards?

 

Composition of CFIUS

 

The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury.

The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices:

1. Department of the Treasury (chair)
2. Department of Justice
3. Department of Homeland Security
4. Department of Commerce
5. Department of Defense
6. Department of State
7. Department of Energy
8. Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
9. Office of Science & Technology Policy

The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities:

1. Office of Management & Budget
2. Council of Economic Advisors
3. National Security Council
4. National Economic Council
5. Homeland Security Council

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation.

Source: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Pages/cfius-members.aspx

 

[SaltyTiger 7,782]

4 minutes ago, HVAU said:

You mean one of these boards?

 

Composition of CFIUS

 

The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury.

The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices:

1. Department of the Treasury (chair)
2. Department of Justice
3. Department of Homeland Security
4. Department of Commerce
5. Department of Defense
6. Department of State
7. Department of Energy
8. Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
9. Office of Science & Technology Policy

The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities:

1. Office of Management & Budget
2. Council of Economic Advisors
3. National Security Council
4. National Economic Council
5. Homeland Security Council

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation.

Source: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Pages/cfius-members.aspx

 

Soros and Harvey on no board. They give money.......to hell with boards

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

1 minute ago, HVAU said:

You mean one of these boards?

 

Composition of CFIUS

 

The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury.

The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices:

1. Department of the Treasury (chair)
2. Department of Justice
3. Department of Homeland Security
4. Department of Commerce
5. Department of Defense
6. Department of State
7. Department of Energy
8. Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
9. Office of Science & Technology Policy

The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities:

1. Office of Management & Budget
2. Council of Economic Advisors
3. National Security Council
4. National Economic Council
5. Homeland Security Council

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation.

Source: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Pages/cfius-members.aspx

 

I don't recall which board was being referred to but it some small board looking at the deal. As I say maybe more will surface soon but it seemed to be a big deal in the new last night resulting from the release yesterday of some FBI papers, the same ones showing Comey was working on writing his conclusions about the Hillary e-mail fiasco BEFORE the FBI even interviewed her.  Anyhow I can't add anything else now.  I had cataract surgery this morning so I have patch on one eye and the other is blurry.

[HVAU 673]

2 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

What lies have been told. This is a statement. Need a link saying lie proven.

The Kush: 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/us/politics/jared-kushner-russians-security-clearance.html

After being caught in the lie:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341844-kushner-updated-disclosure-to-add-more-than-100-foreign-contacts

The Kids:

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-testimony-chris-coons-statute-lying-congress-2017-9

A little help from their friends:

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/16/from-russia-with-love-memo-tries-fails-to-exculpate-donald-trump-jr/

Real estate forays: 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/4/16418766/ivanka-trump-donald-jr-indictment

Sessions:

His lies fall under the plausible deniability already discussed.  

Trump himself:

Well I don't have the time to document all of his lies tonight, but I'm sure you can go to his Twitter feed anyone you like for quick run down.

 

 

[SaltyTiger 7,782]

1 minute ago, HVAU said:

The Kush: 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/us/politics/jared-kushner-russians-security-clearance.html

After being caught in the lie:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341844-kushner-updated-disclosure-to-add-more-than-100-foreign-contacts

The Kids:

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-testimony-chris-coons-statute-lying-congress-2017-9

A little help from their friends:

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/16/from-russia-with-love-memo-tries-fails-to-exculpate-donald-trump-jr/

Real estate forays: 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/4/16418766/ivanka-trump-donald-jr-indictment

Sessions:

His lies fall under the plausible deniability already discussed.  

Trump himself:

Well I don't have the time to document all of his lies tonight, but I'm sure you can go to his Twitter feed anyone you like for quick run down.

 

 

I said proof HVAU. are you having a problem tonight? I do know how to Google articles.

[HVAU 673]

3 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said:

I don't recall which board was being referred to but it some small board looking at the deal. As I say maybe more will surface soon but it seemed to be a big deal in the new last night resulting from the release yesterday of some FBI papers, the same ones showing Comey was working on writing his conclusions about the Hillary e-mail fiasco BEFORE the FBI even interviewed her.  Anyhow I can't add anything else now.  I had cataract surgery this morning so I have patch on one eye and the other is blurry.

I'm not denying that the kickbacks and bribes surrounding the Russian deal are a big deal.  I've yet to see anything connecting Mueller in any significant fashion.

 

The CFIUS, as stated before, is a large regulatory body.  The transaction was multinational in that more than just mining properties in the US were being transferred, and the company being sold want even an American company.  Any role played by Mueller was most likely minor.  The Clintons may have played a more central role, but they would only be influencers, again, due to the number of agencies required to sign off on the deal. 

[HVAU 673]

1 minute ago, SaltyTiger said:

I said proof HVAU. are you having a problem tonight? I do know how to Google articles.

Ok.  Apparently you lack the ability to read them.

Maybe I should have behaved like your beloved Donald.  Let me try again...

@HVAU I have tapes, very incriminating tapes, very bad, very bad, of the Trump adminstration telling lies, so sad, very, very sad.  They better hope I don't decide to release them...it would be hugely, bigly bad for the Dishonest Trumps.

#dishonesttrumps #magabagasackofturds #absurdtwitterpolitics

 

 

 

[TexasTiger 12,828]

10 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

I said proof HVAU. are you having a problem tonight? I do know how to Google articles.

But don't know how to recognize a lie.

[SaltyTiger 7,782]

1 minute ago, HVAU said:

Ok.  Apparently you lack the ability to read them.

Maybe I should have behaved like your beloved Donald.  Let me try again...

@HVAU I have tapes, very incriminating tapes, very bad, very bad, of the Trump adminstration telling lies, so sad, very, very sad.  They better hope I don't decide to release them...it would be hugely, bigly bad for the Dishonest Trumps.

#dishonesttrumps #magabagasackofturds #absurdtwitterpolitics

 

 

 

No Sir A$$clown, I have the ability to read, expected that response from you. I asked you to offer proof. Do you understand? You typed it. I do not have a "beloved Donald". 

[HVAU 673]

You're ridiculous.  Nobody here has proof of anything related to Obama, Clinton, Trump, Sessions, etc.  They have what they've read and what they've heard.  You're no different and your previous comments are simply a BS rhetorical device.

[SaltyTiger 7,782]

4 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

But don't know how to recognize a lie.

Yes Tex, I do fish and talk with other  fisherman daily......................

goodnite

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

11 hours ago, HVAU said:

  I've yet to see anything connecting Mueller in any significant fashion.

 

Here ya go. Maybe you still won't see it as significant. Time will tell but looks significant to me when a Special Counsel is supposed to be squeaky clean.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/18/gregg-jarrett-clinton-cover-up-brought-to-by-same-guys-who-are-investigating-trump.html

[HVAU 673]

2 hours ago, Proud Tiger said:

Here ya go. Maybe you still won't see it as significant. Time will tell but looks significant to me when a Special Counsel is supposed to be squeaky clean.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/18/gregg-jarrett-clinton-cover-up-brought-to-by-same-guys-who-are-investigating-trump.html

There is nothing other than Mueller, Rosenstein, et al deciding not to act on information.  Your assumption that that decision was made nefariously is premature.

From another perspective you could say that without the FBI, under Mueller's direction, investigating the matter none of this would be known even now.  

It can cut either way.  The calls from the right for Mueller's resignation over this are probably just a play to protect Trump, someone who has as much Russian smoke swirling around him as do those involved in Uranium One bribery schemes.