shabby 1,956 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 So here's the topic. What must Auburn accomplish in order to have a legitimate chance to beat these two top tier teams. Let's get the obvious out of the way first. Gus can't meddle. Let's assume Gus stays out of the way and let's the coordinators do their job. Long shot I know but just go with it. Assuming that is done, what other fixes are needed to beat these teams. Offense: Mid routes created for receivers Greater percentages of passes on first down. Stidham keeps more on the read option No more Pettway adjust to the blitz Better run blocking Half time adjust ments- could we make some please??? Defense More Blitzes (4 man rush aint generating the necessary pressure) Please don't respond to this thread with anything Malzahn. we get it. What is amazing is how good this team could actually be. They should have a legit shot in these games if improvement is made in some areas. What are your areas??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUBwins 10,064 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I think have Pettway move back to a full back/H-back type role. His bursts at the LOS last year is how he got into the secondary so much last year and made him a successful TB. He has lost that step this year. Keep him in the backfield with KJ. KP getting the occasional FB/HB carries will not be as predictable and may give him the opportunity to get past the LOS. Right now when he is in there, he is getting the ball just like how the Saints used Adrian Peterson before trading him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaitopher 807 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, shabby said: So here's the topic. What must Auburn accomplish in order to have a legitimate chance to beat these two top tier teams. Let's get the obvious out of the way first. Gus can't meddle. Let's assume Gus stays out of the way and let's the coordinators do their job. Long shot I know but just go with it. Assuming that is done, what other fixes are needed to beat these teams. Offense: Mid routes created for receivers Greater percentages of passes on first down. Stidham keeps more on the read option No more Pettway adjust to the blitz Better run blocking Half time adjust ments- could we make some please??? Defense More Blitzes (4 man rush aint generating the necessary pressure) Please don't respond to this thread with anything Malzahn. we get it. What is amazing is how good this team could actually be. They should have a legit shot in these games if improvement is made in some areas. What are your areas??? One thing - give Chip Lindsey TOTAL control of the offense and time to craft his own plays to this effect. If this happens then MAYBE we could beat both Bama and UGA, but that won't happen or it already would have happened by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarDamnEagleWDE 12,737 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Have to fire Gus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said: Have to fire Gus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jAUSon 2,836 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Yeah get Gus gone. Would actually solve everything. And because this team has so much talent- it might be solved overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTim 3,456 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 This thread makes fear that Pigs will actually fly....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael X 74 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Beat thuGA and the Updykes? If we beat them both, I'll do a lap around my town's Courthouse Square wearing nothing but an Auburn flag as a cape... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDE_OxPx_2010 5,287 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, Michael X said: Beat thuGA and the Updykes? If we beat them both, I'll do a lap around my town's Courthouse Square wearing nothing but an Auburn flag as a cape... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumterAubie 3,031 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 This OP is folly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,062 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said: Have to fire Gus. Ooooor do this to him at every halftime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1auburn1 1,110 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 A violent stomach flu hitting the opposing teams' locker rooms... or Gus hits his head and remembers how to coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 hours ago, jAUSon said: Yeah get Gus gone. Would actually solve everything. And because this team has so much talent- it might be solved overnight. Assuming you might be serious....there is little history out there to prove that....and like as not, the team would totally collapse.. I recall Brother Oliver a while back...and also what happened at South Carolina when Steve was eased out. Basically when you fire a coach in mid season you have written off the season. Blame it on talent maybe in those cases....but when I school gives up on the coach it's also giving up on team. It's a real stretch to think that having some interim coach like Steele or whoever ....would increase the prospects for beating anyone left on our schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabby 1,956 Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 welp so much for a thoughtful discussion of areas improvements that could lead to victory. Everyone talks about how talented our team is but suddenly it's an impossibility for Auburn to win these two games. SMH. I get it Gus sucks can we move past that and actually discuss something productive. the first half team we saw in Baton Rouge could hang with any team in the nation. Let's don't act like the possibility of success isn't there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jAUSon 2,836 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, AU64 said: Assuming you might be serious....there is little history out there to prove that....and like as not, the team would totally collapse.. I recall Brother Oliver a while back...and also what happened at South Carolina when Steve was eased out. Basically when you fire a coach in mid season you have written off the season. Blame it on talent maybe in those cases....but when I school gives up on the coach it's also giving up on team. It's a real stretch to think that having some interim coach like Steele or whoever ....would increase the prospects for beating anyone left on our schedule. This situation is VERY unique. I can't think of an historic comparison to what we have here, and you're right, midseason dump is generally a bad idea. But I do 100% believe this team has a better chance against UGA, TAMU, and Bama without CGM. This isn't a regular "bad coach" scenario. CGM is going to force some more losses into this team of winners, whether you agree or not. Serious we should fire the coach now? No. Plus it's not up to me. Would the team play better the remainder of this season with an interem HC? Yes. 100% But, as you alluded, there's a couple of games on there in which it likely won't make a dang who the coach is, saddly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUBwins 10,064 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 hours ago, WarTim said: This thread makes fear that Pigs will actually fly....... I hope Steele game planned for that on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeriderga 134 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 How to beat Bama and Georgia? The 1980's Pat Dye takes over as coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weagl1 1,781 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 To beat UGA and Bammer: 1- Get everyone well 2- Actually have a game plan the uses our strengths on offense and attacks their weaknesses 3- Actually make halftime adjustments if said offensive game plan is not working and assume they are doing the same with their defense 4- Do not run the ball on first down 17 times in a row especially if that is not working 5- Show up for the second half There are a lot of things our coaching staff on offense could do that would give us a chance. Unfortunately they are probably not capable of doing it because the guru has lost his mojo. Our best chance is for everyone on defense to get well and play their best games this season. Get a couple of turnovers in FG range and that might give us a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 9,307 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Slip a heavy dose of Metamucil in Gus's pregame Gatorade and wait for it to kick in. Then when he has to head to the locker room bring CL down to the sideline to call plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytonAU 4,606 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 UGA and Alabama both have to stay on the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehighfan 1,239 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 19 minutes ago, weagl1 said: To beat UGA and Bammer: 1- Get everyone well 2- Actually have a game plan the uses our strengths on offense and attacks their weaknesses 3- Actually make halftime adjustments if said offensive game plan is not working and assume they are doing the same with their defense 4- Do not run the ball on first down 17 times in a row especially if that is not working 5- Show up for the second half There are a lot of things our coaching staff on offense could do that would give us a chance. Unfortunately they are probably not capable of doing it because the guru has lost his mojo. Our best chance is for everyone on defense to get well and play their best games this season. Get a couple of turnovers in FG range and that might give us a chance. Great idea, good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigercj 242 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 7 hours ago, shabby said: So here's the topic. What must Auburn accomplish in order to have a legitimate chance to beat these two top tier teams. Let's get the obvious out of the way first. Gus can't meddle. Let's assume Gus stays out of the way and let's the coordinators do their job. Long shot I know but just go with it. Assuming that is done, what other fixes are needed to beat these teams. Offense: Mid routes created for receivers Greater percentages of passes on first down. Stidham keeps more on the read option No more Pettway adjust to the blitz Better run blocking Half time adjust ments- could we make some please??? Defense More Blitzes (4 man rush aint generating the necessary pressure) Please don't respond to this thread with anything Malzahn. we get it. What is amazing is how good this team could actually be. They should have a legit shot in these games if improvement is made in some areas. What are your areas??? You make an interesting proposal here on ways that we could win out. However, if anything on the offense that you spelled out was going to happen it should have already been there. Defense has got to get better in the secondary which has been shaky the last few games. I wish I could actually go down the road that we could win out but with current staff I just see a bridge out ahead sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubaseball 2,583 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1. Get turnovers 2. Don’t turn the ball over 3. Win the field position battle 4. Throw the ball all over the field 5. Throw the ball to the running backs on delays out of the backfield or swing routes 6. QB has to run the ball 7. DBs have to play the ball more 8. Defense has to get pressure 9. Defense has to stop the run game to under 150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,368 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Bring back Cam, Bo, and Frank Sanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabby 1,956 Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, bigbird said: Bring back Cam, Bo, and Frank Sanders plan b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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