end the hot seat talk

[Eagle Eye 7]

Giving the player forward progress in certain circumstances is kind of complicated, because in that play he actually was still trying to gain yardage and ended up losing yardage.  If they would have spotted the ball after all that player did, it would not have been a first down.

[TigerFanAU 586]

5 hours ago, DyeCampAlum said:

I’ll happily admit it. I thought Gus would need to be fired, and now it’s clear he shouldn’t be.

We've certainly turned a corner since the LSU loss. I hope it broke Gus's heart like it did ours. At the least I hope he realized he can't sit on leads in this league, or in big games, its just took risky and the teams are so talented. If Gus really did take the LSU to hearth, then I do not want another coach. I hope Gus turned over a new leaf and will be our coach for several years to come. I hope bringing in a new AD will make things easier for him as well.

[Eagle Eye 7]

One thing I noticed was for being ranked #1, Georgia probably should have been more disciplined from what they showed against us.  I do not expect Alabama to help us out so much.

[auburn4ever 1,266]

There's still a lot of football yet to be played. Anything can happen between now and Jan.

[REInvestingTiger 2]

On 11/12/2017 at 2:05 PM, Mikey said:

What planet are you living on? From StatTiger's current game report card: " Auburn under Gus Malzahn is now 7-3 against ranked opponents, when the Tigers are ranked in the top-10."

After your gentlemanly question about which planet I was from, I went back and pulled the information myself. We are actually 9-20 against TOP 20 teams from 2012-2017 to-date and 3-14 against LSU, Georgia, and Alabama, which I consider our biggest three rivals.  (I was lazy didn't look up the info, took from another poster, and tried to use my memory, etc = fail. Figured then it would come back to bite me and it did. However, didn't appreciate the smart @ss response from you Mikey. So here is documentation.) 

And actually - based on Wikipedia, Tigers are 7-6 against Top 20 teams when Tigers are ranked in the Top 10, and 4-4 against Top 10 teams when Tigers are ranked in the Top 10 as of today.  

Bottom line: I personally don't like the winning percentage, especially against what I consider our three biggest rivals. If you don't agree with me fine...but, keep it civil.  

Info from Wikipedia here:

2012	DATE	GAME TIME	Opp - RANK	AU RANK	WHERE		W/L		AU	OPP	Attendance
	1-Sep	6:00 p.m.	vs. No. 14 Clemson*	No. 25	Georgia Dome • Atlanta, GA (Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game)	ESPN		L	19	26	75,211
	22-Sep	6:00 p.m.	No. 2 LSU		Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, AL (Tiger Bowl)	ESPN		L	10	12	86,721
	10-Nov	7:00 p.m.	No. 6 Georgia		Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, AL (Deep South's Oldest Rivalry)	ESPN2		L	0	38	86,146
	24-Nov	2:30 p.m.	at No. 2 Alabama		Bryant–Denny Stadium • Tuscaloosa, AL (Iron Bowl)	CBS		L	0	49	101,821
					TOP 20 W/L:		0	4	LSU, GA, AL		0-3
2013
	21-Sep	6:45 p.m.	at No. 6 LSU		Tiger Stadium • Baton Rouge, LA (Tiger Bowl)	ESPN		L	21	35	92,368
	19-Oct	2:30 p.m.	at No. 7 Texas A&M	No. 24	Kyle Field • College Station, TX	CBS	W		45	41	87,165
	16-Nov	2:30 p.m.	No. 25 Georgia	No. 7	Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, AL (Deep South's Oldest Rivalry)	CBS	W		43	38	87,451
	30-Nov	2:30 p.m.	No. 1 Alabama	No. 4	Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, AL (Iron Bowl)	CBS	W		34	28	87,451
	7-Dec	3:00 p.m.	vs. No. 5 Missouri	No. 3	Georgia Dome • Atlanta, GA (SEC Championship Game)	CBS	W		59	42	75,632
	6-Jan-14	7:30 p.m.	vs. No. 1 Florida State*	No. 2	Rose Bowl • Pasadena, CA (BCS National Championship Game)	ESPN		L	31	34	94,208
					TOP 20 W/L:		3	2	LSU, GA, AL		0-3
2014
	18-Sep	6:30 p.m.	at No. 20 Kansas State*	No. 5	Bill Snyder Family Football Stadium • Manhattan, Kansas	ESPN	W		20	14	53,046
	4-Oct	6:00 p.m.	No. 15 LSU	No. 5	Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, Alabama (Tiger Bowl)	ESPN	W		41	7	87,451
	11-Oct	2:30 p.m.	at No. 3 Mississippi State	No. 2	Davis Wade Stadium • Starkville, Mississippi	CBS		L	23	38	62,945
	1-Nov	6:00 p.m.	at No. 4 Ole Miss	No. 3	Vaught–Hemingway Stadium • Oxford, Mississippi	ESPN	W		35	31	62,090
	15-Nov	6:15 p.m.	at No. 16 Georgia	No. 9	Sanford Stadium • Athens, Georgia (Deep South's Oldest Rivalry)	ESPN		L	7	34	92,746
	29-Nov	6:45 p.m.	at No. 1 Alabama	No. 15	Bryant–Denny Stadium • Tuscaloosa, Alabama (Iron Bowl)	ESPN		L	44	55	101,821
	1-Jan-15	11:00 a.m.	vs. No. 17 Wisconsin*	No. 19	Raymond James Stadium • Tampa, Florida (Outback Bowl)	ESPN2		L	31	34	44,023
					TOP 20 W/L:		3	4	LSU, GA, AL		1-2
2015
	19-Sep	2:30 p.m.	at No. 8 LSU	No. 18	Tiger Stadium • Baton Rouge, LA (Tiger Bowl)	CBS		L	21	45	102,321
	31-Oct	12:00 p.m.	No. 19 Ole Miss		Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, AL	ESPN		L	19	27	87,451
	14-Nov	11:00 a.m.	Georgia		Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, AL (Deep South's Oldest Rivalry)	CBS		L	13	20	82,451
	28-Nov	2:30 p.m.	No. 2 Alabama		Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, AL (Iron Bowl)	CBS		L	13	29	87,451
					TOP 20 W/L:		0	4	LSU, GA, AL		0-3
2016
	3-Sep	8:00 p.m.	No. 2 Clemson*		Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, Alabama (Rivalry)	ESPN		L	13	19	87,451
	17-Sep	6:00 p.m.	No. 17 Texas A&M		Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, Alabama	ESPN		L	16	29	87,175
	24-Sep	5:00 p.m.	No. 18 LSU		Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, Alabama (Tiger Bowl)	ESPN	W		18	13	87,451
	22-Oct	5:00 p.m.	No. 17 Arkansas	No. 21	Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, Alabama	ESPN	W		56	3	87,451
	12-Nov	2:30 p.m.	at Georgia	No. 8	Sanford Stadium • Athens, Georgia (Deep South's Oldest Rivalry)	CBS		L	7	13	92,746
	26-Nov	2:30 p.m.	at No. 1 Alabama	No. 16	Bryant–Denny Stadium • Tuscaloosa, Alabama (Iron Bowl)	CBS		L	12	30	101,821
	2-Jan	7:30 p.m.	vs. No. 7 Oklahoma	No. 17	Mercedes-Benz Superdome • New Orleans (Sugar Bowl)	ESPN		L	19	35	54,077
					TOP 20 W/L:		2	4	LSU, GA, AL		1-2
2017 YTD
	9-Sep	6:00 p.m.	No. 2 Clemson		Memorial Stadium			L	6	14
	14-Oct	2:30 P.m.	No. 20 LSU		Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, Alabama (Rivalry)			L	23	27
	11-Nov		No. 1 Georgia		Jordan–Hare Stadium • Auburn, Alabama (Rivalry)		W		40	17
					TOP 20 W/L:		1	2	LSU, GA, AL		1-1
				TOTAL	Against TOP 20		9	20	LSU, GA, AL		3-14
									AU	OPP	Attendance
					AVG	LSU Score			25	23	91,262
						Georgia Score			18	27	88,308
						Alabama Score			21	38	96,073

[Mikey 16,576]

@REInvestingTiger I'll stick with StatTiger's 7-3 when we're ranked in the top ten, which is rather important since all of those are by definition "big games". Just for giggles, 9-20 is a long, long way and much better than that other-worldly 3-11 you posted. Again, 3-11 on what planet?

[Randman5000 4,226]

Beat bama or hot seat!!!!! No gusbus for me

[Randman5000 4,226]

On 11/13/2017 at 2:33 PM, Eagle Eye said:

One thing I noticed was for being ranked #1, Georgia probably should have been more disciplined from what they showed against us.  I do not expect Alabama to help us out so much.

Yep, they aren't going to get personal foul penalties or dropping kicks. We are going to have to earn it.

The mere fact that Georgia players were trying to fight us Just tells me how frustrated we made them. Pure beat down!

[WarTim 3,456]

Oh yes, the notion has been nuked. 

[Mikey 16,576]

6 hours ago, Randman5000 said:

Beat bama or hot seat!!!!! No gusbus for me

Can you name a replacement? It must be a coach that might be willing to come here, has five or more years experience at a power 5 school and holds a better winning percentage than Gus. Otherwise, we would be stepping into unknown waters.

[lionheartkc 6,150]

10 hours ago, Randman5000 said:

The mere fact that Georgia players were trying to fight us Just tells me how frustrated we made them.

I thought it was just their culture. I can remember several years where they won and still took cheap shots.

[gr82b4au 5,568]

The only way that Gus is going to leave is if he wants to leave to go to Arkansas. He may very well decide that AU is too difficult of a job and jump ship. I don't think that is his MO but maybe it is. It would be home and a lot less pressure. Plus I am sure they would pay him well. 

But right now I think he has more important things on his mind. 

 

 

[Gowebb11 9,314]

2 hours ago, gr82b4au said:

The only way that Gus is going to leave is if he wants to leave to go to Arkansas. He may very well decide that AU is too difficult of a job and jump ship. I don't think that is his MO but maybe it is. It would be home and a lot less pressure. Plus I am sure they would pay him well. 

But right now I think he has more important things on his mind. 

 

 

I agree that he has other things on his mind. In fact my guess is this is vintage agent/pay raise stuff. It’s interesting to me that everyone is talking about how the Arky job is less pressure, while they are in the process of firing their third coach in 10 years. Pressure is everywhere in college football. The expectations were set unrealistically high for Bert because he had won a Rose Bowl. Imagine what they will be for a guy who has an SEC title and played for a National Championship. And Gus would be going there with a depleted roster, and minus Steele, Garner, TWill, Stidham, KJ, etc... None of this makes sense. 

[Randman5000 4,226]

14 hours ago, Mikey said:

Can you name a replacement? It must be a coach that might be willing to come here, has five or more years experience at a power 5 school and holds a better winning percentage than Gus. Otherwise, we would be stepping into unknown waters.

I think we could take our pick. I'm huge fan of Scott Frost if we outbid Nebraska. I like Dino Babers as well. I like Vtechs coach. But that's not the point.....Im just saying, just because he finally beat Georgia just doesn't fix things over night.  He helped him self alot. We all saw what we are capable of, and if we aren't living up to that potential then there's something wrong. And that probably on the Head Coach. I think we can live up to our potential but to give this guy a raise or whatever because he finally beat Georgia is reactionary. SEC champ or bust IMO. I'm not satisfied and Auburn fans shouldn't be satisfied with just beating Georgia with what we saw. That being said ...'I like where we are at'

[Mikey 16,576]

1 hour ago, Randman5000 said:

I think we could take our pick. I'm huge fan of Scott Frost if we outbid Nebraska.

Scott Frost: 15-7 record at a lightweight school and that's all of it. He's probably qualified to be Gus's OC should Lindsey leave but that's Frost's limit at this stage of his career.

[Randman5000 4,226]

3 minutes ago, Mikey said:

Scott Frost: 15-7 record at a lightweight school and that's all of it. He's probably qualified to be Gus's OC should Lindsey leave but that's Frost's limit at this stage of his career.

You don't like to read do you? Or are you just stubborn?

[Mikey 16,576]

Just now, Randman5000 said:

You don't like to read do you? Or are you just stubborn?

I read Frost's career record. 15-7 doesn't take a lot of candle burning. Guys keep coming up with replacement ideas, only the coaches they suggest don't have qualifications nearly as good as Malzahn's were when we hired him. I thought people were tired of providing OJT for head coaches?

I do agree that the UGA game was just one game. Also averaging 43.5 points over a 7 game SEC stretch is just one season. And being the head coach in 1/3 of all the national championship games Auburn has been in over the last 60 years is just one game.

And, and, and,..... I think a lot of Auburn fans don't appreciate what we've got.

[mikeholiday 132]

16 hours ago, Mikey said:

Can you name a replacement? It must be a coach that might be willing to come here, has five or more years experience at a power 5 school and holds a better winning percentage than Gus. Otherwise, we would be stepping into unknown waters.

Easy. Steele or Chip. The further Gus gets from this program the better. 

[Randman5000 4,226]

1 hour ago, Mikey said:

I read Frost's career record. 15-7 doesn't take a lot of candle burning. Guys keep coming up with replacement ideas, only the coaches they suggest don't have qualifications nearly as good as Malzahn's were when we hired him. I thought people were tired of providing OJT for head coaches?

I do agree that the UGA game was just one game. Also averaging 43.5 points over a 7 game SEC stretch is just one season. And being the head coach in 1/3 of all the national championship games Auburn has been in over the last 60 years is just one game.

And, and, and,..... I think a lot of Auburn fans don't appreciate what we've got.

I'm sorry but a Georgia win once every four years does not satisfy me....Prior to this year he reeked of mediocrity. We aren't Mediocre and going 8-5 isn't a successful year imo.. Does he get another year, sure... Ptb Don't have balls. But he's still has alot to prove. He needs a philosophy change and I just don't see that happening. By the way every team in the SEC this year besides Georgia...sucks this year

[Strychnine 1,802]

On 11/13/2017 at 5:33 PM, Eagle Eye said:

One thing I noticed was for being ranked #1, Georgia probably should have been more disciplined from what they showed against us.  I do not expect Alabama to help us out so much.

 

Considering the very similar beating that Notre Dame received, I think Georgia had not really been consistently challenged on the line, or challenged on the road.  Jordan-Hare was rocking.  They were getting beaten out there, and I think it got in their heads.  Auburn's two road losses probably helped Auburn more than any of their steamrolling wins helped Georgia.

[Gowebb11 9,314]

9 hours ago, Randman5000 said:

I think we could take our pick.

Curious, what do you base that on? Only a small percentage of teams ever get their first choice in a coaching hire. Same for second choices. I’m not trying to debate whether to fire or not fire our coach, but I’ve seen an awful lot of coaching searches for huge programs, and most end the hiring of the third, fourth, or fifth choice. Most of the “top tier” candidates are only working you to get a pay raise to stay where they are. Firing Butch Jones at UT is a justified firing. Firing Gus is not nearly as cut and dried in my opinion, especially in a season where we are no worse than 9-3 and 6-2 in the SEC. 

[Mikey 16,576]

6 hours ago, Randman5000 said:

I'm sorry but a Georgia win once every four years does not satisfy me....

Recommending a coach with a 15-7 record at a minor league school is your solution? Got it!

[Mikey 16,576]

7 hours ago, mikeholiday said:

Easy. Steele or Chip. The further Gus gets from this program the better. 

No. The challenge was to identify a coach that would come here and has better credentials as a head coach than Gus. Take a trip back to the drawing board.

[gravejd 3,270]

hot seat talk is done for this year anyway....win out and you don't have to worry about next year either coach. 

[Randman5000 4,226]

2 hours ago, Gowebb11 said:

Curious, what do you base that on? Only a small percentage of teams ever get their first choice in a coaching hire. Same for second choices. I’m not trying to debate whether to fire or not fire our coach, but I’ve seen an awful lot of coaching searches for huge programs, and most end the hiring of the third, fourth, or fifth choice. Most of the “top tier” candidates are only working you to get a pay raise to stay where they are. Firing Butch Jones at UT is a justified firing. Firing Gus is not nearly as cut and dried in my opinion, especially in a season where we are no worse than 9-3 and 6-2 in the SEC. 

We aren't firing Gus. Auburn is too giddy about beating Georgia.