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Brad had two options when it came down to it: 1. fight the child pornography charge in court or 2. plea to the lesser charges that he would likely be found guilty of even if he had won his case in court. To have the entire case thrown out in court would be nearly impossible. He saved the system, himself, and his family time and frustration by pleading out.

It happens every single day.

As for his actions and intent - only he truly knows that but based on his character, I'd say it was going to be a prank and things went overboard. Hopefully he has learned his lesson and moved on.

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On 1/29/2018 at 1:37 PM, DAG said:

No! If I am innocent, I am not taking a plea deal . Period. Definitely not just to stop whatever crap the media is going to spew, because now he has taken a plea and the assumption is he is guilty.

Unfortunately sometimes plea deals or settlements are the easiest way out and the least amount of damage.  This happens in business all of the time.  For example, someone can try to sue you for $60,000 and you can be completely innocent.  But your E&O insurance looks at the court costs of fighting it, and realizes that it is cheaper to settle for $30,000 than incur $40,000 in legal fees.

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47 minutes ago, abw0004 said:

Unfortunately sometimes plea deals or settlements are the easiest way out and the least amount of damage.  This happens in business all of the time.  For example, someone can try to sue you for $60,000 and you can be completely innocent.  But your E&O insurance looks at the court costs of fighting it, and realizes that it is cheaper to settle for $30,000 than incur $40,000 in legal fees.

Apples to oranges. I’ve worked in large corporations and it’s cheaper to pay out versus go through a lengthy fight , even if you have the case to win. However, a corporation such as mine wouldn’t balk, if one of their employees were accused of being negligent and killing someone, unless they felt the case was not winnable. In this case, you have a guy who clearly took pics of a juvenile in a bathroom. He was smart to take a plea because he freaking did it. However, if I did not do something like that, you aren’t going to get me to plead out. Not the same thing as fighting a fendor bender with an insurance company and choosing the cheaper route.

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From what I read on another board, he recorded a video of a boy using the bathroom because he thought the noises he was making was funny. Bad thing was he had already got in trouble previously for trying to take pictures of female students under their desks. He had been terminated from his job as a substitute teacher.

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Also, no grown man should be taking pics of anybody in the bathroom. Friend or stranger, it is just flat out weird. If you are one of those folks shrugging your shoulder and acting as if this was harmless and escalated, you are a weirdo too. I have some really good frat brothers and we never took dang pictures of us naked or whatever in the bathroom. That is how you get open handed slapped. That is just creep stuff, unless you are some actual pervert. 

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3 minutes ago, DAG said:

Also, no grown man should be taking pics of anybody in the bathroom. Friend or stranger, it is just flat out weird. If you are one of those folks shrugging your shoulder and acting as if this was harmless and escalated, you are a weirdo too. I have some really good frat brothers and we never took dang pictures of us naked or whatever in the bathroom. That is how you get open handed slapped. That is just creep stuff, unless you are some actual pervert. 

Evidently he wasn't taking pics of anyone in the bathroom.  He used the video function on his phone to record the noises some kid was making in the stall next to him because he thought it was funny.

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4 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

Evidently he wasn't taking pics of anyone in the bathroom.  He used the video function on his phone to record the noises some kid was making in the stall next to him because he thought it was funny.

So he was recording someone in the bathroom, clearly using the restroom.  Again, this is weird as freak. Why? Bathroom is a private area. Keep your phone to yourself. Especially if you are a grown ass man. Clearly, whoever he showed it to thought it was weird too or else he wouldn’t have been in this position.

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Just now, DAG said:

So he was recording someone in the bathroom, clearly using the restroom.  Again, this is weird as freak. Why? Bathroom is a private area. Keep your phone to yourself. Especially if you are a grown ass man. Clearly, whoever he showed it to thought it was weird too or else he wouldn’t have been in this position.

I didn't say it was an ok thing to do.  But there's a big difference in being an insensitive jerk vs being a pervert.

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5 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

Evidently he wasn't taking pics of anyone in the bathroom.  He used the video function on his phone to record the noises some kid was making in the stall next to him because he thought it was funny.

And based on the article , he has had two occasions of him being a peeping Tom with female acquaintances. Guy needs help. He got some issues.

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3 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

I didn't say it was an ok thing to do.  But there's a big difference in being an insensitive jerk vs being a pervert.

A jerk? You are a weirdo for doing something like that. Being a jerk is me calling you a prick. Video recording you “making noises” in a private stall is just weird. Like I said , if you can’t find the disctinction in that then you are probably a damn weirdo yourself. And this is a grown man with juveniles mind you.

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1 minute ago, DAG said:

And based on the article , he has had two occasions of him being a peeping Tom with female acquaintances. Guy needs help. He got some issues.

Understand that as well.  But this is a far cry from "child porn" that he was originally charged with.  He needs to get straightened out on appropriate use of his phone and personal boundaries for sure.

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1 minute ago, DAG said:

A jerk? You are a weirdo for doing something like that. Being a jerk is me calling you a prick. Video recording you “making noises” in a private stall is just weird. Like I said , if you can’t find the disctinction in that then you are probably a damn weirdo yourself.

Dude, calm down for a sec.

The kid was going to the bathroom and probably grunting and farting and such.  It's crude, gross, an invasion of privacy for a little bathroom humor for sure but it's not in the same class as taking photos or video of someone naked who's unaware of you doing so.  It's not the same as child porn. 

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10 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

Dude, calm down for a sec.

The kid was going to the bathroom and probably grunting and farting and such.  It's crude, gross, an invasion of privacy for a little bathroom humor for sure but it's not in the same class as taking photos or video of someone naked who's unaware of you doing so.  It's not the same as child porn. 

Rich? This guy is telling me to calm down. I never said it was the same as child porn. I said if you have to take out your phone to record someone grunting , farting in a private stall, you are a weirdo. That is weird crap. Looking at female students under the desk is also weird. I also think having a foot fetish is weird as freak too. It’s not child porn though. Like I said, I don’t know where the heck some of you guys grew up with or hung out with, but the people I surrounded myself with never would even think to do something like that, especially as a grown man. That just wouldn’t fly. What I look like recording what another  person is doing on the crapper? That is weird as hell and clearly other people think so too.

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The bathroom thing, in my mind, means that Lester is clearly lacking in the "normal, healthy, adult behavior" department. But it doesn't make him bad or evil. Just, as DAG says, weird.

Upskirt pics of high school girls? His students? That's bad. That's evil. That might not be statutory rape or child porn but it's in the same zip code. That's really, really bad. 

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"At the end of the day, the family's concerned about getting him some counseling," attorney Max Richardson told Tyler Estep of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, "because he's obviously gotten carried away with his phone."

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/01/brad_lester_avoids_further_jai.html

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57 minutes ago, AUld fAUx@ said:

"At the end of the day, the family's concerned about getting him some counseling," attorney Max Richardson told Tyler Estep of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, "because he's obviously gotten carried away with his phone."

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/01/brad_lester_avoids_further_jai.html

That's good lawyerin' right there. He didn't explicitly blame it on the phone, but he's certainly suggesting that there wouldn't be a problem without one.

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If he was doing this to female students and had been fired for the above mentioned thing then I would bet money that this is not the last time we hear of Brad Lester being connected to something appalling.

Sounds like he needs his ass kicked to be honest and that still may not teach him as this type of deviant behavior is rooted deep in the brain as I see it

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1 hour ago, McLoofus said:

That's good lawyerin' right there. He didn't explicitly blame it on the phone, but he's certainly suggesting that there wouldn't be a problem without one.

Not competent to judge the lawyerin' or the settled judgement (latter in terms of retained crimes and whether imposed punishments "fit").

I do find Mr. Lester's revealed behavior neither appropriate, harmless, nor excusable.

I do note (in a link in a link provided by Mr. alexava above) that the settlement included some behavior-mod incentives:

“If he violates the law or his probation [during the remaining years of his sentence], he could be resentenced for up to 20 years in prison,” Assistant District Attorney Drew Unger, who prosecuted the case, said Wednesday.

http://www.myajc.com/news/local-govt--politics/auburn-gwinnett-football-star-avoid-prison-peeping-tom-case/6jM4529AOpC1x3bdNdtw8K/

ETA - Damn' spell-check!

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Just curious why this thread has stayed in the football forum.  I have started threads in the past about ex-players and they are typically moved within the hour.  Even the Tre Mason threads are moved out of here.

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Lester is a pervert and a creep.  That has been demonstrated without a doubt.  There are no excuses for his behavior.  He needs help, but he is still a pervert and a creep. Thank goodness he no longer represents AU other than being a former football player.  His actions deserve nothing but scorn and rejection.  He is not an AU man.

wde

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39 minutes ago, AUIH1 said:

Lester is a pervert and a creep.  That has been demonstrated without a doubt.  There are no excuses for his behavior.  He needs help, but he is still a pervert and a creep. Thank goodness he no longer represents AU other than being a former football player.  His actions deserve nothing but scorn and rejection.  He is not an AU man.

wde

Tell us what you really think.  Lol.

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