UCF had eyes on winning. AU had eyes on NFL

[DivisionN 102]

It's the same old story for Auburn. Our guys had people talking contracts with them. Half of them did not give a rip. We lose more unqualified underclassmen than any other team. I think Saban must hire guys to entice our players. I know a lot of our "fans" encourage our players to go pro. Most of them do not make it or could have done better by staying in school. Look at Holland. He just became a starter this year. One more year and he would have been a superstar. Pettway... a year with Johnson and he could have been a star, a first round pick. Now, he  will be doing good to make a team. Davis fakes sick all week to work on his contract. How could we possibly beat UCF with the kind of mentality we see around Auburn? All of them playing not to get hurt and trying to work out their draft status. Auburn should have just stayed home, or taken just the players that were not going pro. Sickens me. Same thing, year after year. Deep teams, such as Bama do not lose as many underclassmen as we do. 

[Southwest 186]

Agree to an extent. Bama loses damn near the whole D year in year out to the draft, next man steps up. This game I still saw no reason why we shouldn't of handled ucf with the players we did have that weren't thinking pro. 

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

Well you have to look at stability. Saban > Gus in that area.

Then you look at injuries. Johnson saw it this year in the end. Average shelf life for a NFL RB is what 5 years or something? Same thing with Pettway. Plus if they are having issues staying out of trouble its best to get out before that impacts.

The fans. I wasn't there but all indications are that nobody else was either for the Peach Bowl which is practically in our backyard. You see Alabama players talk about the passion and support of that fan base all the time. I have no doubt that they would of loaded up the Peach Bowl.

Guy like Davis, honestly he is probably one of those guys that went to college to step to the NFL and that was it. If there was an alternative route he probably would of taken it.

What is the league minimum now a days? Doesn't like a practice squad player earn 7k plus a week both during and in the off seasons?

[BJCrawford 1,568]

4 minutes ago, Texan4Auburn said:

Well you have to look at stability. Saban > Gus in that area.

 You see Alabama players talk about the passion and support of that fan base all the time. I have no doubt that they would of loaded up the Peach Bowl.

You mean like the passion they had for the Utah game a few years back? They would have had no more interest in that game than Auburn fans, especially if the circumstances were the same.

[CleCoTiger 1,957]

Pettway could have been a first round pick?  Running backs in the NFL are a commodity these days. Very, very few are first round picks.

Davis faked being sick? Your source on this is? 

I'm not sure on the exact numbers for AU players who declare early that do or do not make it.  I know that AU has quite a few players at the next level including players like Peyton Barber who left early and defied the expectations of message board gurus who said he was making a mistake.  

Any player that makes it in the NFL for even a single season can, in my opinion, hardly be said to have made a mistake. The NFL minimum is 450k/year.  That minimum will more than pay for a return to school to finish.

Instead of griping (which seems to be de rigueur among some of the folks on the forums these days), how about being grateful for the contributions these players made at AU and wishing them luck at the next level?

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

3 minutes ago, BJCrawford said:

You mean like the passion they had for the Utah game a few years back? They would have had no more interest in that game than Auburn fans, especially if the circumstances were the same.

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Alabama's allotment is long gone, and some Crimson Tide fans have resorted to joining the Crimson Club, Utah's athletic fundraising arm, to get choice seats.

http://blog.nola.com/tpsports/2008/12/so_far_ticket_sales_for_the_su.html

 

[BJCrawford 1,568]

I was mostly referring to the “passion and support of Alabama’s fan base”. To think Alabama fans are a more dedicated fan base is ridiculous.  Most fan bases are dedicated when everything is good. The real fans are the ones whose butts were in the seats during the likes of the Barfield years.  I’m obviously biased, but no way Alabama’s fans can be seen as more dedicated than Auburn’s. Most of them could not find Tuscaloosa on a map. Rant over?

[ClaytonAU 4,606]

“Unqualified” hahahahahah

[JDUBB4AU 5,102]

Best thread of 18 so far . Saban is paying the Illuminati to entice our players to go to the pros to make big money . Bigfoot wouldn’t dance with Evans grandmother that’s why he didn’t come to AU. Loch Ness unplugged the fax when Cyrus kwonjo (whatever his name was) was sending over his NLI. Jimmy Hoffa stole the 2nd half adjustments so we couldn’t finish off LSU . Free porn in the dorm is why KJ hurt his shoulder and couldn’t play in the secc..... 

[Gowebb11 9,308]

Vintage JABA

When AU has few players draft worthy: “our coaches can’t get elite talent”

When AU has Top 10 classes and players leave early to the NFL: “our players don’t care and are only worried about going pro”

?

[abw0004 10,106]

5 hours ago, DivisionN said:

It's the same old story for Auburn. Our guys had people talking contracts with them. Half of them did not give a rip. We lose more unqualified underclassmen than any other team. I think Saban must hire guys to entice our players. I know a lot of our "fans" encourage our players to go pro. Most of them do not make it or could have done better by staying in school. Look at Holland. He just became a starter this year. One more year and he would have been a superstar. Pettway... a year with Johnson and he could have been a star, a first round pick. Now, he  will be doing good to make a team. Davis fakes sick all week to work on his contract. How could we possibly beat UCF with the kind of mentality we see around Auburn? All of them playing not to get hurt and trying to work out their draft status. Auburn should have just stayed home, or taken just the players that were not going pro. Sickens me. Same thing, year after year. Deep teams, such as Bama do not lose as many underclassmen as we do. 

I really don't think you watch enough football or understand it...  I know that sounds mean, and I don't mean for it to, but the last few posts make absolutely zero sense. 

[aujeff11 6,243]

 

6 hours ago, CleCoTiger said:

Any player that makes it in the NFL for even a single season can, in my opinion, hardly be said to have made a mistake. The NFL minimum is 450k/year.  That minimum will more than pay for a return to school to finish.

Obviously making 450k in one year is nice for a 21yo but leaving for the draft and staying in the league for a year can be considered a mistake long term. More instruction could’ve been given in the college ranks, skills could’ve been more fine-tuned, and another year of workouts could’ve given the player a better chance of NFL longevity. I can imagine the added pressure of making rosters is already a tall task, so it would be even taller of a task if not physically ready for the NFL. CFB still provides that no pressure environment for those projected fourth and fifth round juniors that are unsure if they are already.

Also, if you flame out in a year, you have to pay out of pocket to finish the degree( assuming they do), and have to worry about finishing the degree and cannot get right to work. Lastly, those players might make 450k a year but they more than likely bought a new car, possibly took care of family and/ or old debts, and were probably already depleting the funds as the year went along. I guess every situation is different and some like Peyton needed to leave for the draft for the good of his family, but generally, I’m still of the belief that staying in school is the best option past the second round. 

[AU64 10,122]

6 hours ago, BJCrawford said:

You mean like the passion they had for the Utah game a few years back? They would have had no more interest in that game than Auburn fans, especially if the circumstances were the same.

Yep..no need to compare everything to the bammers.....our failure stands on its own.

Several teams went through the motions against teams that felt they wanted to prove something to fans ....or to themselves...and it showed.

[AURealist 2,185]

3 hours ago, JDUBB4AU said:

Best thread of 18 so far . Saban is paying the Illuminati to entice our players to go to the pros to make big money . Bigfoot wouldn’t dance with Evans grandmother that’s why he didn’t come to AU. Loch Ness unplugged the fax when Cyrus kwonjo (whatever his name was) was sending over his NLI. Jimmy Hoffa stole the 2nd half adjustments so we couldn’t finish off LSU . Free porn in the dorm is why KJ hurt his shoulder and couldn’t play in the secc..... 

Alert the media.

"Auburn University fans, the world's foremost leaders in rationalization technology, have dug deep to develop yet another new ground-breaking excuse. Lead developer DivisionN..."

[WDE0007 166]

It seems I'm in the minority, but I fully support the players leaving early to get their coins. Carlton has a promising stock: all the distinctions he earned throughout the season. KJ has a promising stock: SEC Offensive Player of the Year. Holland may have benefited from an extra year, I'll give yall that. But in the end this isn't about what's best for the team or best for the fans. This is about what's best for him. Kam Pettway leaving early has everything to do with supporting his family: he has a daughter and wife. Though I'm sure not being able to stay out of the dog house played some part in it too, but that's not the point I'm going for.

If I had the opportunity to go make an NFL MINIMUM (MINIMUM!!!!!) of $450,000, I sure as heck would go after my dream of being in the pros. That minimum salary is more than I'll ever make. As a 21-year-old, I would take that chance. Besides, with all the connections they made through Auburn Football, if their NFL career doesn't work out, they can always come back and be part of the coaching staff. Just look at our current staff roster--a good majority of them were former players in recent years.

 

[JDUBB4AU 5,102]

15 minutes ago, AURealist said:

Alert the media.

"Auburn University fans, the world's foremost leaders in rationalization technology, have dug deep to develop yet another new ground-breaking excuse. Lead developer DivisionN..."

Haaaaaaaa I love it 

[DAG 33,955]

6 hours ago, BJCrawford said:

I was mostly referring to the “passion and support of Alabama’s fan base”. To think Alabama fans are a more dedicated fan base is ridiculous.  Most fan bases are dedicated when everything is good. The real fans are the ones whose butts were in the seats during the likes of the Barfield years.  I’m obviously biased, but no way Alabama’s fans can be seen as more dedicated than Auburn’s. Most of them could not find Tuscaloosa on a map. Rant over?

Suuuuuureeeeeee

[BigSammyK 171]

You can always come back and get a degree. You cannot always guarantee a half-million dollar salary. Go get the money while it's available, especially in a sport like football where players have such a short shelf life.

[ArgoEagle 1,767]

I believe we all just need to accept the fact that our whole season ended during the Iron Bowl when #15 for Bama hit KJ on the sideline and injured him to the point to where we had no chance in the SECCG. We were staring a trip to the playoffs in the face until that happened. After all our hopes and dreams were crushed in that game, there was nothing left to look forward to but a concillation game with an undefeated team from a who cares conference who had everything to play for, while the 2 teams we had just recently beaten were playing for all the marbles. I don't see any way that the most motivational coaches there are could have convinced our players there was anything we could gain out of winning this game, except maybe a little pride. I don't see where we can put this loss on the coaches or the players. Just chalk this loss up to the unfortunate bad luck and the circumstances that followed it.

[aujeff11 6,243]

9 minutes ago, BigSammyK said:

You can always come back and get a degree. You cannot always guarantee a half-million dollar salary. Go get the money while it's available, especially in a sport like football where players have such a short shelf life.

Hate to compare to Bama again but:

Ryan Anderson, Tim Williams, Jonathon Allen, and OJ Howard all say hi. All four could’ve left their junior and been at least a mid round pick. They stayed, and got an even bigger contract the next year.

[aubiefifty 16,705]

9 hours ago, DivisionN said:

It's the same old story for Auburn. Our guys had people talking contracts with them. Half of them did not give a rip. We lose more unqualified underclassmen than any other team. I think Saban must hire guys to entice our players. I know a lot of our "fans" encourage our players to go pro. Most of them do not make it or could have done better by staying in school. Look at Holland. He just became a starter this year. One more year and he would have been a superstar. Pettway... a year with Johnson and he could have been a star, a first round pick. Now, he  will be doing good to make a team. Davis fakes sick all week to work on his contract. How could we possibly beat UCF with the kind of mentality we see around Auburn? All of them playing not to get hurt and trying to work out their draft status. Auburn should have just stayed home, or taken just the players that were not going pro. Sickens me. Same thing, year after year. Deep teams, such as Bama do not lose as many underclassmen as we do. 

you got a link on Davis playing sick to work on his contract or are you just pulling this out of your behind just to make him look bad because you are upset he did not play? if you got a link i will shut up but if you do not how about you quit smearing kids with no proof? I am pretty sure thereis a rule about smearing kids on this site.

[AUApostle 7,648]

56 minutes ago, aujeff11 said:

Hate to compare to Bama again but:

Ryan Anderson, Tim Williams, Jonathon Allen, and OJ Howard all say hi. All four could’ve left their junior and been at least a mid round pick. They stayed, and got an even bigger contract the next year.

Maybe our players don't trust Gus' process.

[cole256 17,039]

I look forward to this post every year....this is sort of related to the post I made....one of the mindbending things. Want success but angry guys go to the NFL when they are successful....

[fishepa 1,899]

48 minutes ago, cole256 said:

I look forward to this post every year....this is sort of related to the post I made....one of the mindbending things. Want success but angry guys go to the NFL when they are successful....

I'm not necessarily angry about it, just envious of teams that have better players that decide to stay.

[aubaseball 2,583]

2 hours ago, aujeff11 said:

Hate to compare to Bama again but:

Ryan Anderson, Tim Williams, Jonathon Allen, and OJ Howard all say hi. All four could’ve left their junior and been at least a mid round pick. They stayed, and got an even bigger contract the next year.

This is exactly what I’m saying.   All these guys I believe either wound up 1st rounder or high 2nd.    Hugh difference in money.   Plus they where playing for another national championship