RunInRed 16,354 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc4aday 1,887 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Saban would not surprise me hiring Freeze as his OC. If this happens, I hope Freeze manages to get the turds in more trouble than they could ever imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehighfan 1,239 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 14 hours ago, doc4aday said: Saban would not surprise me hiring Freeze as his OC. If this happens, I hope Freeze manages to get the turds in more trouble than they could ever imagine. Unless Emmert is stepping down as head of the ncaa I don't see Freeze getting them into any kind of trouble they wouldn't be able to slither out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBiGGiE 2,488 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Great move for Freeze but I would hate this. Freeze gets to use the "Diplomatic Immunity" of Bammer while his name gets cleared... Saban just needs to hurry up and retire before the prepaid phone market gets too inflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,817 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I swear if he goes to Bama and we don't bang the "HE HIRES PROSTITUTES AND IS A HYPOCRITE" drum while recruiting the same targets I'm going to be pissed. Just imagine what kind of nega-recruiting we would have to fight off if we hired Freeze. On the other hand, does it really matter? They just won a title with freaking DABOL as OC lolol. Pretty sure Hugh Nall could call a winning offense for them right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiger said: I swear if he goes to Bama and we don't bang the "HE HIRES PROSTITUTES AND IS A HYPOCRITE" drum while recruiting the same targets I'm going to be pissed. Just imagine what kind of nega-recruiting we would have to fight off if we hired Freeze. Even worse... he's Gus's buddy. Edit: Meaning, Gus probably won't allow the negative talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,817 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, McLoofus said: Even worse... he's Gus's buddy. Edit: Meaning, Gus probably won't allow the negative talk. What's even worse is that Freeze will march right into a kids living room and tell them how if they went to play for Gus they wouldn't be prepared for the NFL per Saban's orders But we won't point out how the guy telling the family this regularly hired prostitutes and then acted as if he was a godly man in public killing any and all trust-worthy characteristics about the guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,922 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 They're running a freak Rehab Center for wayward coaches over there. This is a huge black eye on their program, why take on this guy when they don't have to? The stuff HF allowed to happen right under his nose in his own program, and his stupidity for carelessly using a company phone to call hookers is a serious character flaw IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUIH1 1,515 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I read Saban is considering Freeze for an analyst position, not OC. Like Sark. wde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,922 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tiger said: What's even worse is that Freeze will march right into a kids living room and tell them how if they went to play for Gus they wouldn't be prepared for the NFL per Saban's orders But we won't point out how the guy telling the family this regularly hired prostitutes and then acted as if he was a godly man in public killing any and all trust-worthy characteristics about the guy The NCAA is completely impotent if they didn't ban him from recruiting as part of his sanctions. WTH does it teach a former HC who watched that Booster/Recruit/Player scheme unfold right before his eyes if he can jump right back on the recruiting trail with a different colored shirt with another team's logo on the pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUsince72 11,084 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, keesler said: The NCAA is completely impotent if they didn't ban him from recruiting as part of his sanctions. WTH does it teach a former HC who watched that Booster/Recruit/Player scheme unfold right before his eyes if he can jump right back on the recruiting trail with a different colored shirt with another team's logo on the pocket? It's like attorney/client privilege. You work for Saban, you get that same warm blanket of protection that his blackmail material on Emmert provides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,817 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 minute ago, keesler said: The NCAA is completely impotent if they didn't ban him from recruiting as part of his sanctions. WTH does it teach a former HC who watched that Booster/Recruit/Player scheme unfold right before his eyes if he can jump right back on the recruiting trail with a different colored shirt with another team's logo on the pocket? Good point. Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't take away his ability to recruit though. IMO this hire would be 100x worse than Sarkisian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,922 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, AUIH1 said: I read Saban is considering Freeze for an analyst position, not OC. Like Sark. wde Well, that's a big difference then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,922 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I've just had no use for Freeze once the NCAA allegations came out in detail. Many folks on here were behind him, and blamed vehemently blamed Bama and Saban for turning him in to the NCAA because he beat them twice. Why in the world would the man take a position on the staff of the very man that blew the whistle on him? Ole Miss was Hugh's dream job, why would he work, and plan and scheme to help the man that ultimately ruined his dream job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc4aday 1,887 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, keesler said: I've just had no use for Freeze once the NCAA allegations came out in detail. Many folks on here were behind him, and blamed vehemently blamed Bama and Saban for turning him in to the NCAA because he beat them twice. Why in the world would the man take a position on the staff of the very man that blew the whistle on him? Ole Miss was Hugh's dream job, why would he work, and plan and scheme to help the man that ultimately ruined his dream job? I just had a thought..........Maybe Freeze goes to bammer and does his dead level best to make them lose and get into NCAA trouble as pay back for costing him his dream job! I like Cam Cameron as the turds next OC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,817 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Can't wait for a Finebaum caller to say: Saban wants to bring Freeze on staff and hand the reigns to him when NS retires because he holds him in such high regard for beating him twice. Read that in a cigarette stenched, toothless-induced lisp for full effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToraGirl 5,498 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, Tiger said: Can't wait for a Finebaum caller to say: Saban wants to bring Freeze on staff and hand the reigns to him when NS retires because he holds him in such high regard for beating him twice. Read that in a cigarette stenched, toothless-induced lisp for full effect. Does the toothless wonder know the word "regard"? That might be challengething. Someone with skills better than I can impose the right faces here. I got a mental picture of something "freezing over." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFlyer99 647 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 10 hours ago, keesler said: I've just had no use for Freeze once the NCAA allegations came out in detail. Many folks on here were behind him, and blamed vehemently blamed Bama and Saban for turning him in to the NCAA because he beat them twice. Why in the world would the man take a position on the staff of the very man that blew the whistle on him? Ole Miss was Hugh's dream job, why would he work, and plan and scheme to help the man that ultimately ruined his dream job? $$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehighfan 1,239 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 17 hours ago, keesler said: The NCAA is completely impotent if they didn't ban him from recruiting as part of his sanctions. WTH does it teach a former HC who watched that Booster/Recruit/Player scheme unfold right before his eyes if he can jump right back on the recruiting trail with a different colored shirt with another team's logo on the pocket? If Freeze is hired at bama in whatever capacity let's remember who is still running the ncaa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 18 hours ago, keesler said: I've just had no use for Freeze once the NCAA allegations came out in detail. Many folks on here were behind him, and blamed vehemently blamed Bama and Saban for turning him in to the NCAA because he beat them twice. Why in the world would the man take a position on the staff of the very man that blew the whistle on him? Ole Miss was Hugh's dream job, why would he work, and plan and scheme to help the man that ultimately ruined his dream job? Because he wants to redeem his career. And he may want to learn how to cheat and not get caught. You underestimate Freeze's ambition. He's a risk taker and he's going into the lion's den as a necessity. Saban wants Freeze there so he can demand that Hugh keep what he knows about Saban's recruiting all to himself as part of the career revival deal. It's a win-win for both of them. keesler of course the nickster turned in Ole Miss because Freeze was out-coaching and out-recruiting him, and it was showing on the field. The point that made people upset was the hypocrisy of bammer pointing a finger at anyone else. It's absolutely sickening. The failings of Hugh Freeze in his personal life is a separate issue from the recruiting violations. I don't think anyone excused that behavior or blamed anyone but Hugh Freeze for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, Tigerbelle said: The failings of Hugh Freeze in his personal life is a separate issue from the recruiting violations. I don't think anyone excused that behavior or blamed anyone but Hugh Freeze for it. Agreed in part, but I think you hit the nail on the head earlier. 16 minutes ago, Tigerbelle said: You underestimate Freeze's ambition. He's a risk taker. This is Freeze in a nutshell to me. Ambitious and willing to take bug risks to fuel that ambition. The personal problems come from the same vein, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Barnacle said: Agreed in part, but I think you hit the nail on the head earlier. This is Freeze in a nutshell to me. Ambitious and willing to take bug risks to fuel that ambition. The personal problems come from the same vein, IMO. They absolutely do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Barnacle said: Agreed in part, but I think you hit the nail on the head earlier. This is Freeze in a nutshell to me. Ambitious and willing to take bug risks to fuel that ambition. The personal problems come from the same vein, IMO. Agreed. I don't think folks always realize what kind of single-mindedness it takes for most of these guys to succeed at the level they do. And most of them aren't quite the pillars of morality that we sometimes hold them up to be. Even Gus wanted to sign Jonathan Taylor until the Ray Rice stuff happened. These guys want to win more than the average joe wants anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, McLoofus said: Agreed. I don't think folks always realize what kind of single-mindedness it takes for most of these guys to succeed at the level they do. And most of them aren't quite the pillars of morality that we sometimes hold them up to be. Even Gus wanted to sign Jonathan Taylor until the Ray Rice stuff happened. These guys want to win more than the average joe wants anything. It's the same way I view members of Congress. Most of these guys are talented, but none of them would have gotten here without unrelenting ambition. It shouldn't surprise any of us to find out what goes in behind closed doors, but damn if they don't sell themselves in a way that has us believing something else. Marcus Aurelius hired a servant to walk behind him and every time a citizen or follower would bow or praise him, the servant would whisper in Aurelius' ear, "You're just a man, you're just a man." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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