bigbird 60,291 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Steele Garner TWill Lindsey Brown Porter Woodson Horton Grimes Burns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUsince72 11,084 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 30 minutes ago, ellitor said: Again. He landed 20% of our class mostly by himself including 4 4* kids. Not sure what else you want from a 1st year coach who is recruiting new territories where he doesn't have many already established relationships w/ the HS coaches in his territory. Having T-Will at 7 is a joke. He is the best recruiter on staff & to this point has proven to be as good of a developer we have on staff. Should be no worse than #3 on anyone's list. Williams was 2nd on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKEEL75 2,566 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, bigbird said: Steele Garner TWill Lindsey Brown Porter Woodson Horton Grimes Burns Why do you feel Burns is at the bottom of this list? He had record break WRs this year and brought in an incredible class. I respect your opinion and was just curious why you thought he was the worst on the staff. If it is just a matter of someone has to be at the bottom then I get that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, LKEEL75 said: Why do you feel Burns is at the bottom of this list? He had record break WRs this year and brought in an incredible class. I respect your opinion and was just curious why you thought he was the worst on the staff. If it is just a matter of someone has to be at the bottom then I get that too. Not to step on Bird's answer, but one thing to consider with ranking the coaches is that someone has to be last. It doesn't mean they did a bad job, just that they were out done by the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKEEL75 2,566 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, lionheartkc said: Not to step on Bird's answer, but one thing to consider with ranking the coaches is that someone has to be last. It doesn't mean they did a bad job, just that they were out done by the others. If that is all it is then I get that. Just wondering if @bigbird had some other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,291 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, LKEEL75 said: If that is all it is then I get that. Just wondering if @bigbird had some other reason. To me, Burns isn't there yet. He had a lot of help on the recruiting front and our receivers we're very inconsistent both in route running and catching. I think all of that lends itself to being out done by others either in the field or on the trail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, bigbird said: To me, Burns isn't there yet. He had a lot of help on the recruiting front and our receivers we're very inconsistent both in route running and catching. I think all of that lends itself to being out done by others either in the field or on the trail. Follow-up question. Since you are a DB guy and probably know more about him than most around here, tell us what excites you enough about Woodson to rank him above Horton, Grimes, and Burns. Details, please, so we can all get excited about him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye 7 2,535 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I’m not saying that recruiting stars are completely worthless but you are taking opinions from sportswriters that don’t coach D1 football. They mostly base their opinions on what offers players get. That said if you really think their is a great deal of difference between any of the top 15 classes then you just are not paying attention. Some positions draw low marks, kickers , OGs and TEs for example. Doesn’t help your position with the ranking but sure won’t win ballgames without them. Also passpro QBs and OTs get more stars but I don’t think they would fit in our offense. So any team getting top 15 classes definitely have the talent to win in college football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corchjay 5,311 Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 6 hours ago, ellitor said: Again. He landed 20% of our class mostly by himself including 4 4* kids. Not sure what else you want from a 1st year coach who is recruiting new territories where he doesn't have many already established relationships w/ the HS coaches in his territory. Having T-Will at 7 is a joke. He is the best recruiter on staff & to this point has proven to be as good of a developer we have on staff. Should be no worse than #3 on anyone's list. I can't have my own opinion? I have to share the same opinion of you? nah Maybe he will be everything we want him to be but development at his position we have not seen this year. Actually Cox may have improved slightly and Harris appeared to get a little worse in blocking. Recruiting is very important but you also have to have development. Something we have heard over and over on this board about QB play. 4 star kids are now the standard for AU not the exception. So by meeting the standard of what we are supposed to praise him for. Plus his areas are littered with talent. Just would like to see results before we base everything off recruiting. T-will gets as much help as any coach on the staff. So don't come with the all the development is because of T-Will. Steele made his job much easier simplifying the defense. Plus when I see improvement on shallow crossing routes and pick plays I'll start praising the development. Tell me again who missed the tackle in the Clemson game to allow the QB to score on the QB run? Who got out of position on the swift run in the SEC championship game? Who got out flanked against bama to start the 3rd qtr on the mulitple runs to the left. Trust me I love T-will and definitely give him credit where credit is due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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