bigbird

Pettway is a mess

Recommended Posts

I do wish AU had a little better mental health service, but it’s about on par with other normal universities. Nothing specialized but good counseling available. Certain players probably could use something a little more in depth regarding MH.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites




1 hour ago, aujeff11 said:

Y’all keep picking on Lionheart and I will take his side on this issue. We haven’t bonded as partners in crime in a while so bring it on big boys.

Exhibit A:  Manziel had a minor ankle injury in college and now he’s bipolar! 

?

When some people act irresponsibly which Manziel does they have two choices. They can own up and grow up or they can look for someone or something else to blame. Too many people choose the latter. 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
56 minutes ago, djg0017 said:

I do wish AU had a little better mental health service, but it’s about on par with other normal universities. Nothing specialized but good counseling available. Certain players probably could use something a little more in depth regarding MH.

Agreed. Every part of our society could stand better mental health resources, not just universities. 

  • Like 1
  • Love 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, djg0017 said:

I do wish AU had a little better mental health service, but it’s about on par with other normal universities. Nothing specialized but good counseling available. Certain players probably could use something a little more in depth regarding MH.

I could have used it but those damn Dream Police kept showing up in my head

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Tiger said:

This is exactly how Montavious Atkinson showed up on his first day at AU

 

11Ktcev.jpg

My man crush!

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I must be new 'cause I didn't know a football injury led to a cocaine habit.

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 2
  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, lionheartkc said:

You know, E, I'll take all the abuse people want to give on that people want to give me on this, but I definitely don't appreciate that comment from you. 

I'm sorry but I wouldn't have said it if you hadn't posted numerous naive posts over the years. This is the 2nd subject you have been naive on this month alone.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

FTR, I'm not picking on Lion. I think a lot of him. That's why I posted I was so shocked in my 1st reply. The disheartening thing here is he attacked the work of our medical staff including 1 prominent member of this board & I know that person took the accusations from Lion very seriously.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, passthebiscuits said:

Another issue at hand, and one that has indirectly been pointed out, is how Gus uses a medical concern to cover over a personal struggle. Is that right/wrong/indifferent? I think that’s a worthy debate. For example, and let’s use a hypothetical here, if a guy has...I don’t know an injury to the AC joint and may be out for a few weeks, then the med staff clears him, and then the coach says that he’s not going to be able to play because the player has a “shoulder fracture” (which, I’m sorry, doesn’t make a whole lot of sense)...should the coach be more forthcoming? Is the coach just protecting his player? Is it important to know the details of the player’s personal struggles?

It is a very thoughtful question and definitely requires a thoughtful answer. I can only offer what I believe and why I believe it. Whether it is a personal issue or medical one, we are not entitled to the specifics. But I don’t like the idea of ‘protecting’ the player. Who was protected here? The truth came out, and almost always does. If a player is injured, the coach simply needs to say they are injured. No details are required. But if they are out because of breaking rules, to say other wise is not holding them accountable, and every other player on the team is watching. So for me, specifics are not necessary, but the truth is. Long term, I believe it is best for the player and program. All that said, I wish nothing but the best for all our players. 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 2/12/2018 at 10:15 PM, ellitor said:

tenor.gif

Dr. Goodlet, nor none of the medical staff, is responsible for a kid choosing to do his best Cheech & Chung impersonation on a daily basis.

The situation with Pettway is far more than just the Cheech and Chong stuff. Marijuana never stopped (modern era) an NFL team from drafting a star athlete, that can help a team win and therefore, make money.

Other head-cases, have and will stop NFL teams from drafting a player.

Keep in mind the NFL drafted Duke, they drafted Johnny Manzel and others. This gives you a little insight on the severity of this particular head-case.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, AU-24 said:

The situation with Pettway is far more than just the Cheech and Chong stuff. Marijuana never stopped (modern era) an NFL team from drafting a star athlete, that can help a team win and therefore, make money.

Other head-cases, have and will stop NFL teams from drafting a player.

Keep in mind the NFL drafted Duke, they drafted Johnny Manzel and others. This gives you a little insight on the severity of this particular head-case.

IMO, it has nothing to do with severity , johnny football was as big as it got when it comes to headcases but he had supreme talent . Ricky Williams was also a head case . I am sure KP has his own demons in his closet, but let’s face it, even prior to this season he was a later round guy. You can’t have issues and be at the cusp of potentially being able to get into the league. Also Duke didn’t get drafted. He did get a training camp invite which is what KP will probably get.

Edited by DAG

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Gowebb11 said:

It is a very thoughtful question and definitely requires a thoughtful answer. I can only offer what I believe and why I believe it. Whether it is a personal issue or medical one, we are not entitled to the specifics. But I don’t like the idea of ‘protecting’ the player. Who was protected here? The truth came out, and almost always does. If a player is injured, the coach simply needs to say they are injured. No details are required. But if they are out because of breaking rules, to say other wise is not holding them accountable, and every other player on the team is watching. So for me, specifics are not necessary, but the truth is. Long term, I believe it is best for the player and program. All that said, I wish nothing but the best for all our players. 

Not disagreeing or debating but would you rather hear: it’s an injury,  a personal issue, or a mental condition? Possibly saying it’s an injury, seems to protect the player a little more.

Possibly these issues, could be considered an injury anyway? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, DAG said:

IMO, it has nothing to do with severity , johnny football was as big as it got when it comes to headcases but he had supreme talent . Ricky Williams was also a head case . I am sure KP has his own demons in his closet, but let’s face it, even prior to this season he was a later round guy. You can’t have issues and be at the cusp of potentially being able to get into the league. Also Duke didn’t get drafted. He did get a training camp invite which is what KP will probably get.

He's a mess," an AFC regional scout told NFL.com. "They were done with him over there and he's got too many character flags to be drafted. I thought he might be a late pick last year, but not anymore."

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, AU-24 said:

He's a mess," an AFC regional scout told NFL.com. "They were done with him over there and he's got too many character flags to be drafted. I thought he might be a late pick last year, but not anymore."

 

He is a mess . Johnny football was a mess too. But he got drafted . The honey badger got completely kicked off the team and still got drafted in the third round. If you have enough talent, you will get drafted despite whatever off the field issues you have. If KP issues were that detrimental , he would’ve gotten escorted off the team like SW:

Edited by DAG

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, AU-24 said:

He's a mess," an AFC regional scout told NFL.com. "They were done with him over there and he's got too many character flags to be drafted. I thought he might be a late pick last year, but not anymore."

 

Guess this thread's gonna get all serious now...

The key to the statement is probably how literal the speaker is stating "character flags".

Mental health issues are one thing but if they just feel like he's got insurmountable problems within his actual character, that's a whole different discussion.

I would think these professionals are very careful about their choices of words.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Btw, I don’t think he is some head case. I think he is in love with weed though 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We see one short snippet from one AFC scout that points negatively to KP's personal issues.  I  believe KP still gets drafted.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
45 minutes ago, DAG said:

Btw, I don’t think he is some head case. I think he is in love with weed though 

Feel free to “think” as you please; but facts are facts.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, keesler said:

We see one short snippet from one AFC scout that points negatively to KP's personal issues.  I  believe KP still gets drafted.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It’s a lot more than one short snippet.

I would hope that everyone wishes him the best in all situations, and truly hope he turns his life around!

As far as all the nonsense on the thread, I assure you it’s not Gus, it’s not Dr. Andrews, it’s not the psychologist or psychiatrist he gets to talk to, (free of charge to him) it’s not the Russians:

IT’s HIM!

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, keesler said:

We see one short snippet from one AFC scout that points negatively to KP's personal issues.  I  believe KP still gets drafted.

Ditto. Nice thread.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, AU-24 said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It’s a lot more than one short snippet.

I would hope that everyone wishes him the best in all situations, and truly hope he turns his life around!

As far as all the nonsense on the thread, I assure you it’s not Gus, it’s not Dr. Andrews, it’s not the psychologist or psychiatrist he gets to talk to, (free of charge to him) it’s not the Russians:

IT’s HIM!

 

its-always-russia-russia-russia.jpg

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now