channonc 466 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Hey all, Just wanted to drop in to apologize for my long hiatus in posting in this forum. After the election, it was a bit crazy in my world. But now that some of my clients are getting used to the truly unpredictableness of DC these days it is a bit better. I hope to get back to posting more in here and rejoining the (hopefully civil) debate. War Eagle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Can you say what business you are speaking of? Welcome back. Not much going on here to debate about anymore though. Everyone agrees and gets along ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonc 466 Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 I work in DC as one of those “L” words. (Not a lawyer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Oh no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,147 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Welcome back! You've been missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I was hoping you would say you're a therapist. I was going to ask if you could take on another patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just don’t tell me you rep the NRA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,704 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, alexava said: Just don’t tell me you rep the NRA. This is meant to be a curiosity question and not an argument starter: How much of the blame should go to the NRA and how much should go to the slimeballs who take their money? I'd probably say 25-75%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Grumps said: This is meant to be a curiosity question and not an argument starter: How much of the blame should go to the NRA and how much should go to the slimeballs who take their money? I'd probably say 25-75%. They are equal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,419 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Welcome back oh breath of fresh air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,894 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 18 hours ago, channonc said: I work in DC as one of those “L” words. (Not a lawyer). Welcome back! BTW, my nephew is right there with you. Only get to see him a few times a year, but eagerly await the opportunities to visit. His stories are epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,704 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 59 minutes ago, alexava said: They are equal It seems to me that trying to buy someone's vote is not as bad as receiving money for their vote. If the politicians who are supposed to represent us would be ethical then it would not matter what influence people were trying to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,704 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 18 hours ago, channonc said: I work in DC as one of those “L” words. (Not a lawyer). Welcome back! I don't think you will find that the forum has changed much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Grumps said: It seems to me that trying to buy someone's vote is not as bad as receiving money for their vote. If the politicians who are supposed to represent us would be ethical then it would not matter what influence people were trying to buy. I am torn on that one. but a bit hypocritical too. if i agree with the cause i would donate myself. i know, i know. If i was a congressman i would accept money but not let it change my positions. (or i hope not.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 16 hours ago, alexava said: I am torn on that one. but a bit hypocritical too. if i agree with the cause i would donate myself. i know, i know. If i was a congressman i would accept money but not let it change my positions. (or i hope not.) I would hope an honorable politician would sit down with a lobbyist, listen to what they propose, and, only upon confirmation that the desires of the lobbying group align with the principles of the politician, accept campaign contributions. I know that's a bit utopian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,704 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 hours ago, HVAU said: I would hope an honorable politician would sit down with a lobbyist, listen to what they propose, and, only upon confirmation that the desires of the lobbying group align with the principles of the politician, accept campaign contributions. I know that's a bit utopian. It is a bit utopian, but still seems possible. It is because politicians are human that campaign finance laws need to be MUCH better. It is obvious why politicians won't make laws that would stop their ability to receive money for corrupt reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 27 minutes ago, Grumps said: It is a bit utopian, but still seems possible. It is because politicians are human that campaign finance laws need to be MUCH better. It is obvious why politicians won't make laws that would stop their ability to receive money for corrupt reasons. The SCOTUS failed to provide a check on the legislative branch with the Citizens United. We are now starting to see the results of allowing corporations to blur the line between business operations and electioneering operations, funding campaigns of politicians with very limited oversight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,789 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/16/2018 at 7:40 PM, channonc said: Hey all, Just wanted to drop in to apologize for my long hiatus in posting in this forum. After the election, it was a bit crazy in my world. But now that some of my clients are getting used to the truly unpredictableness of DC these days it is a bit better. I hope to get back to posting more in here and rejoining the (hopefully civil) debate. War Eagle! Would you have been able to keep posting had Hillary won that election.....15 months ago? just asking channonc. apologies accepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NolaAuTiger 3,295 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/16/2018 at 9:00 PM, channonc said: I work in DC as one of those “L” words. (Not a lawyer). Legislator or lobbyist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonc 466 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 5:58 PM, SaltyTiger said: Would you have been able to keep posting had Hillary won that election.....15 months ago? just asking channonc. apologies accepted No offense taken. Probably, but not for the reasons you think. Work has significantly increased since the election on unexpected ways and I just haven’t had the time to post. I’m hoping that I can now find a bit more time that will allow me to be more active again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonc 466 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 On 2/19/2018 at 9:09 AM, NolaAuTiger said: Legislator or lobbyist? Yes. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NolaAuTiger 3,295 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, channonc said: Yes. ? Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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