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15 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

This sport has been played for well over 100 years now. Some things that work and some things that don't work have been figured out. It's not a ridiculous question to ask. If you don't know the answer, just say so.

 

Here is how the Iowa Hawkeyes handled special teams in 2016

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4th Down — Critical Questions

So if last season was an OK special teams effort, why has Kirk Ferentz blown up this thing?

Last season, Chris White, who has since departed Iowa, had kick return, kickoff and field goal team duties. Tight ends coach LeVar Woods handled punt returns and linebackers coach Seth Wallace handled punt team

http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/college/football/four-downs-iowas-2017-special-teams-20170801

 

LSU Special Teams for 2017

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New LSU football coach Ed Orgeron announced Tuesday at a pre-spring practice press conference that he will have something much more than the dreaded co-coordinators for special teams. He will have special teams coached by committee — a big committee. It will be a “Party of Five” musical chairs if you will. A barbershop quartet … plus one.

“OK, on special teams, we will split up the duties between each assistant coach,” Orgeron began, which would mean nine coaches on special teams. But he trimmed that down to a quintet.

“And our guys are excited,” he said. “Tommie Robinson will lead one (special teams). Dennis Johnson will lead a couple others. Corey Raymond will lead some. Mickey Joseph is going to lead some. Jeff Grimes will lead some.”

First, there was the LSU-dubbed “Chinese Bandits” platoon in the 1958 national championship season, but that was only three units.

“There will be an outstanding, cohesive effort between our staff,” Orgeron promised.

If you say so.

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15 hours ago, corchjay said:

I’m glad we have someone else over the ST.  Porter is hopefully the answer because all aspects of the special teams were really bad last year.  Carlton has a good year but could have been great without 4 blocked kicks.   I don’t dislike Porter just think it’s time to earn his pay.  

Amen!

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6 minutes ago, aufan57 said:

This would've been an appropriate response a few posts ago but you got salty for some reason

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6 minutes ago, Tiger said:

This would've been an appropriate response a few posts ago but you got salty for some reason

Link to interview with Arizona State Special Teams Coordinator. He will have assistant coaches working with special teams. Not an uncommon practice. One coach cannot handle all the duties.

https://247sports.com/college/arizona-state/Article/QA-with-ASU-special-teams-coach-Shawn-Slocum-115667957

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18 minutes ago, aufan57 said:

Link to interview with Arizona State Special Teams Coordinator. He will have assistant coaches working with special teams. Not an uncommon practice. One coach cannot handle all the duties.

https://247sports.com/college/arizona-state/Article/QA-with-ASU-special-teams-coach-Shawn-Slocum-115667957

That guy was there when CCL was there, and an "associate head coach" to boot. (Maybe just a title to lure him away from the NFL, or maybe it means something.) Perhaps a transfer of knowledge or even just some osmosis is happening. Maybe even an ongoing dialogue. 

 

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5 hours ago, corchjay said:

Still kind of by committee...

 

Horton will coach punt returns, Porter will handle punters and kickoff returns, and linebackers coach Travis Williams will coach kickoffs, the person familiar with the decision told Auburn Undercover.

 

4 hours ago, Tiger said:

Does any other school take this approach? Dividing special teams into 3 separate coaches?

 

2 hours ago, AUWALT said:

I see no problem with different coaches handling the different parts of Special teams. 

Example: Kickoffs and Kickoff returns are two totally different animals  

Truly clueless here, with regards to what is smart and to what is usually done, but

it would seem that an ST coordinator or (if there were such a thing) even an ST specialist is (with such disparate skills to manage) is, inherently,

a camel designer.

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Whether 'tis nobler in reality to have a committee instead of just one guy, I do like the idea of 1) Travis Williams enhancing his footprint on this program and 2) giving Porter the chance to have a footprint at all. While we might disagree as to reasons and meaning- and putting recruiting aside- it's true that we haven't had many conversations about the effect his coaching has had on the team. When the punt and kick return teams suck or improve this season, and when the *TEs do or don't improve, then we'll have a little more information on him. 

*Even if the talent available at TE doesn't improve, one would expect a certain amount of natural progression from the guys returning. 

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8 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Whether 'tis nobler in reality to have a committee instead of just one guy, I do like the idea of 1) Travis Williams enhancing his footprint on this program and 2) giving Porter the chance to have a footprint at all. While we might disagree as to reasons and meaning- and putting recruiting aside- it's true that we haven't had many conversations about the effect his coaching has had on the team. When the punt and kick return teams suck or improve this season, and when the *TEs do or don't improve, then we'll have a little more information on him. 

*Even if the talent available at TE doesn't improve, one would expect a certain amount of natural progression from the guys returning. 

Even I can understand that, and dig it.

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1 hour ago, McLoofus said:

I do like the idea of 1) Travis Williams enhancing his footprint on this program

And I like the idea of someone who has instilled some serious targeted aggression into our linebacker squad teaching our special teams to take out the guy with the ball.

1 hour ago, AUld fAUx@ said:

2) giving Porter the chance to have a footprint at all.

And letting Horton get back to focusing on what made him a star coach on our team... making any and everyone who starts at running back for us a household name.  After all, the lack of development below Kam and Kerryon could very well have been influenced by the fact that almost everything was broken in his other job.

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25 minutes ago, lionheartkc said:

And I like the idea of someone who has instilled some serious targeted aggression into our linebacker squad teaching our special teams to take out the guy with the ball.

And letting Horton get back to focusing on what made him a star coach on our team... making any and everyone who starts at running back for us a household name.  After all, the lack of development below Kam and Kerryon could very well have been influenced by the fact that almost everything was broken in his other job.

I really hope I've posted this right, but I think that web-ghosty thing of misquoting us is, again, rearing its head?

 

Apparently didn't get it right, but a valuable contribution by @McLoofus was attributed to me in a valuable response from @lionheartkc. A glitch?

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1 hour ago, lionheartkc said:

After all, the lack of development below Kam and Kerryon could very well have been influenced by the fact that almost everything was broken in his other job.

Huge reach and highly doubtful.

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7 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Huge reach and highly doubtful.

You can't imagine Gus being on his butt to fix special teams, as the "coordinator"? I sure can. Unless that was just a title with no real job to go with it. 

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1 hour ago, lionheartkc said:

You can't imagine Gus being on his butt to fix special teams, as the "coordinator"? I sure can. Unless that was just a title with no real job to go with it. 

Yes, but in no way would that effect the development of the RBs.

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9 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Yes, but in no way would that effect the development of the RBs.

I'm just thinking, splitting time between the two jobs, he would have to dedicate himself to the guys who are seeing the field and getting them ready for the next game more than the 3rd, 4th, and 5th string guys who he would have more time for if he wasn't splitting duties, but hey... I don't coach so I'm just speculating about the whole finite amount of time to get a lot of things done (a current theme in my life).

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