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2019 3* RB Tye Edwards


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59 minutes ago, NorthGATiger said:

It is all about not having anyone even remotely ready to go when RB1 is injured because you have stubbornly ran RB1 exclusively like he is superman.  

What options did Gus have? Which RB could Gus have gotten ready to go?  Martin was a pass pro liability that got zero snaps against Clemson because of protection concerns. Why would you insert that player against Georgia or Bama? Barrett was basically a situational WR. Malik Miller? We all agree that there should be better depth at the RB position. Let’s not ignore Gus lost a 1000 yard rusher to suspension though. 

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9 minutes ago, aujeff11 said:

What options did Gus have? Which RB could Gus have gotten ready to go?  Martin was a pass pro liability that got zero snaps against Clemson because of protection concerns. Why would you insert that player against Georgia or Bama? Barrett was basically a situational WR. Malik Miller? We all agree that there should be better depth at the RB position. Let’s not ignore Gus lost a 1000 yard rusher to suspension though. 

Martin has gained weight and is bigger and stronger than last year. You can teach a RB how to properly pass block if they are big and strong enough. If Martin starts the coaching staff must now be confident enough in his pass blocking abilities. Also after watching the Spring game, I believe we have several good RBs besides Martin.

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8 minutes ago, aujeff11 said:

What options did Gus have? Which RB could Gus have gotten ready to go?  Martin was a pass pro liability that got zero snaps against Clemson because of protection concerns. 

So don't call plays that require max pro. Run things that are strengths to your personnel.  Insert KMart and call plays that stress the D as opposed to ones that stress our O.

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19 minutes ago, bigbird said:

So don't call plays that require max pro. Run things that are strengths to your personnel.  Insert KMart and call plays that stress the D as opposed to ones that stress our O.

I’m not sure if Gus and our offensive coaches considered this during the Clemson and the latter UGA game( I would hope so given their salaries,) but I would hope that Gus is making the gameplans based on what gives us the best chance to be successful.

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12 minutes ago, aujeff11 said:

I’m not sure if Gus and our offensive coaches considered this during the Clemson and the latter UGA game( I would hope so given their salaries,) but I would hope that Gus is making the gameplans based on what gives us the best chance to be successful.

That's my biggest gripe/concern.  When option 1 is taken away, we struggle to adjust.  In fact, I'm not sure I've ever seen Gus adjust since he became HC although he used to be great at it as an OC.

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Gus is a great offensive mind just very stubborn since we dominated on the ground in 2013.  Chip is helping with balance but in reality we only struggle with “elite” defensive fronts.  If you don’t have a superstar or quality depth we will absolutely run you off the field.  Most teams can’t match us in depth now but the better teams up front still give us issues which they do all teams.  

To many trickish plays called around the 40 against good defenses as well.  

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1 hour ago, corchjay said:

Gus is a great offensive mind just very stubborn since we dominated on the ground in 2013.  Chip is helping with balance but in reality we only struggle with “elite” defensive fronts.  If you don’t have a superstar or quality depth we will absolutely run you off the field.  Most teams can’t match us in depth now but the better teams up front still give us issues which they do all teams.  

To many trickish plays called around the 40 against good defenses as well.  

Gus likes to blame the lack of execution when running into 8 and 9 men fronts as opposed to exploiting the aggressive fronts.  I really hope JS is right and he is allowed to check out of plays this year. If he is, and he truly has a grasp of the O, then we may finally see our O be as dangerous as it could be.

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2 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Gus likes to blame the lack of execution when running into 8 and 9 men fronts as opposed to exploiting the aggressive fronts.  I really hope JS is right and hr is allowed to check out of plays this year. If he is, and he truly has a grasp of the O, then we may finally see our O be as dangerous as it could be.

He will still run into fronts but I hope the screen game comes along for the running backs to slow the front down.  Which should be a strength of Kam if he can catch the frickin ball.  

Thats also why you don’t see many “intermediate” throws over the middle.  To many people.  That’s why the deep post is available.  

More speed at the tailback spot should help although the smaller quicker backs may not be as effective on 3rd and 2.  It’s a balancing act in a lot of cases but with our QB this year if he stays healthy and our WRs play consistently there is no reason we shouldn’t average around 35-40 attempts per game.

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39 minutes ago, corchjay said:

He will still run into fronts but I hope the screen game comes along for the running backs to slow the front down.  Which should be a strength of Kam if he can catch the frickin ball.  

Thats also why you don’t see many “intermediate” throws over the middle.  To many people.  That’s why the deep post is available.  

More speed at the tailback spot should help although the smaller quicker backs may not be as effective on 3rd and 2.  It’s a balancing act in a lot of cases but with our QB this year if he stays healthy and our WRs play consistently there is no reason we shouldn’t average around 35-40 attempts per game.

Something like more of this?

 

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57 minutes ago, corchjay said:

He will still run into fronts but I hope the screen game comes along for the running backs to slow the front down.  

But it doesn't have to be screens.  We should be abke to use our backs in the passing game without "trickery".  We could also clear the MoF using our backs and TEs opening up slants, drags, and seams to our WR.  Which would make our O much more dynamic and dangerous

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3 hours ago, augolf1716 said:

Something like more of this?

 

Beautifully set up and designed play. Those O linemen should work for the Secret Service with that presidential escort...

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 NCM works so hard to find and get a piece of the MLB.  This is a perfect example of adjusting and attacking a defense. Pre-snap they have 10 players within 5 yards of the LoS. 

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34 minutes ago, bigbird said:

 NCM works so hard to find and get a piece of the MLB.  This is a perfect example of adjusting and attacking a defense. Pre-snap they have 10 players within 5 yards of the LoS. 

NCM is the most important offensive player outside of Stidham this season.  His physical play on the edge sets up a lot.  I think he finds a way to get open more this year as well.  I’m not saying he’s going for 60 plus catches but should and I predict will become our “possession” receiver.  

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4 hours ago, bigbird said:

But it doesn't have to be screens.  We should be abke to use our backs in the passing game without "trickery".  We could also clear the MoF using our backs and TEs opening up slants, drags, and seams to our WR.  Which would make our O much more dynamic and dangerous

If we can hold the pocket longer then 2 seconds maybe we can run some developing pass routes but when you get pressure it’s hard to do.  That’s why against Arkansas Ole Miss of the world our offense looks like a totally different animal.  Plays can develop.  

DL in the SEC is generally way ahead of the OL.  Hopefully our DL “trains” our OL to be prepared.  

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On 7/14/2018 at 10:05 AM, bigbird said:

That's my biggest gripe/concern.  When option 1 is taken away, we struggle to adjust.  In fact, I'm not sure I've ever seen Gus adjust since he became HC although he used to be great at it as an OC.

He made an adjustment last year.. Didn't he wear a different hat or shirt or something????

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22 hours ago, corchjay said:

If we can hold the pocket longer then 2 seconds maybe we can run some developing pass routes but when you get pressure it’s hard to do.  That’s why against Arkansas Ole Miss of the world our offense looks like a totally different animal.  Plays can develop.  

DL in the SEC is generally way ahead of the OL.  Hopefully our DL “trains” our OL to be prepared.  

Hopefully JS will step into the pocket this year vs. getting happy feet.  

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With a veteran OL coach who knows what he is doing, I have a sneaky good feeling about this season:

we 'appear' to have depth at RB

we have a QB who is striving to have a season to launch him into the NFL 

we have a WR corps, not just a couple

we have a dominant D

If I am right, we will land the RBs we want like Cain and Edwards (if that is our plan).  

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8 hours ago, Beaker said:

If I am right, we will land the RBs we want like Cain and Edwards (if that is our plan).  

 I don’t think  Edwards is a take right now. To get Cain  we likely need LSU to lay an egg. I don’t think there’s a scenario right now where we would take both.

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2 hours ago, ellitor said:

 I don’t think  Edwards is a take right now. To get Cain  we likely need LSU to lay and egg more than likely. I don’t think there’s a scenario right now where we would take both.

I want Tye and Richards not that my opinion matters.

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2 hours ago, War to the Eagle said:

How does Richards factor into this situation?

He’s a take but Miami will be tough to beat. Honestly no clue who ends up our running back in this class.

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56 minutes ago, AU80cruiser said:

I want Tye and Richards not that my opinion matters.

Unlikely we take two at all unless either guy we get the staff doesn’t feel good about running between the tackles.

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7 hours ago, ellitor said:

Unlikely we take two at all unless either guy we get the staff doesn’t feel good about running between the tackles.

This staff confuses me worse than women who teach Physics.  We are behind LSU for sure and maybe even Texas for Cain. We are for sure behind Miami and have been from the get go for Richards.  We may have had a shot with Tye Edwards and we decide that he is not a take.  I can't know what the staff knows and they know what they are doing but bird in the hand.....

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3 hours ago, NorthGATiger said:

We may have had a shot with Tye Edwards and we decide that he is not a take. 

Nothing is finite here. It's still "have" not "have had". And the not a take part is for the moment. That could easily change in a couple months. AU can afford to wait while working on Cain & Richards right now before moving on Edwards or other RBs. Edwards wants to play RB but his only commitable offers at RB right now are from the Aggies & maybe Oregon.

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