Trump Has Learned Nothing

[homersapien 11,357]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/trump-putin-russia-comments/565352/

The president's waffling on Russian interference was part of a week long meltdown—a summer tradition that started during his campaign.

Bill Clinton and Barack Obama liked to go to Martha’s Vineyard. George W. Bush repaired to his ranch in Crawford, Texas. President Donald Trump has already cultivated his own summer tradition: the catastrophic, week-long meltdown.

This summer’s edition started Thursday, when Trump departed the NATO summit in Brussels, leaving behind a trail of chaos. It could have been worse: Headed into the summit, some analysts were worried he’d blow the alliance up altogether. But that doesn’t mean it went well.

Ahead of the summit, Trump launched a scathing Twitter attack against Germany for purchasing gas and oil from Russia, arguing, in his classic I’m-rubber-you’re-glue fashion, that Berlin is compromised. Trump falsely claimed that he’d forced members to spend more, when their commitment to spending 2 percent of GDP on defense dates to 2014. He demanded NATO double that commitment to 4 percent, rattling allies and sending the Pentagon scrambling to reassure them. The outreach didn’t really help. Although Trump claimed that “we … have a very, very powerful, very, very strong NATO, much stronger than it was two days ago,” other members didn’t feel the same way. Germany’s foreign minister even said that the United States was no longer a fully reliable ally.

From Brussels, Trump went on to the United Kingdom. One of his first acts there was to give a blunt interview to the tabloid The Sun, in which he disparaged Prime Minister Theresa May’s stewardship of Brexit (patronizingly calling her “Theresa”), undermined her government by saying that recently resigned Foreign Minister Boris Johnson would be a good prime minister, and seemed to foreclose the chance of a bilateral trade deal between the U.S. and the U.K.

That was just a warm-up. During a press conference with May on Friday, Trump called his own interview with the newspaper “fake news” and threatened to release a recording that would disprove it. He hasn’t, and besides, The Sun had already posted a recording. Trump insisted that he hadn’t criticized May when he plainly had. Also during the presser, he claimed, despite copious evidence to the contrary, that he’d been in Scotland the day before Brexit, and he heckled CNN and NBC reporters. Later, the president meandered through an awkward meeting with Queen Elizabeth.

From England, he headed north for a taxpayer-funded infomercial for Turnberry, his golf resort on Scotland’s west coast, in the latest example of Trump using the presidency to garner free publicity for his private businesses, from which he has not divested. Turnberry could use the help: The resort is hemorrhaging money (and it’s unclear where he got the cash to buy the club in the first place).

In Scotland on Sunday, Trump gave an interview to CBS in which he described the European Union—a group that is an American ally, and is comprised of strong American allies—as a “foe,” positioning the EU as similar to (if not worse than) Russia and China.

Later that day he flew to Helsinki, in preparation for a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Expectations ahead of time were extremely low, and yet Trump still managed to miss them by a long shot. The president’s press conference may well have been the most outrageous moment in an administration that has numbed the public to outrage. Simply by dignifying Putin with the encounter, he welcomed Russia back to an international community from which it had been ostracized for its illegal seizure of Crimea from Ukraine.

The substance was even worse. Trump kowtowed to Putin, appearing deferential onstage. Regarding Russian interference in the 2016 election, Trump took the word of a despot and a liar at face value, disparaging the conclusions of every American intelligence agency that has looked into interference, as well as bipartisan congressional inquiries. Three days after the Justice Department released a detailed indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers for the hacking of Democratic email systems, Trump dismissed the investigation, saying he couldn’t see why Russia would have been involved. He blamed the United States for criminal interference intended to subvert its democracy. He cut off a reporter who said he’d called Putin an adversary, saying that he’d merely labeled him a “competitor.” He rhapsodized about his victory in the 2016 election. He attacked the FBI. He welcomed the idea of Russian intelligence officers helping to investigate their own hacking.

By the end of the appearance, as my colleague James Fallows wrote, the only reasonable interpretation of Trump’s behavior was that he was acting as a conscious agent of Russian interests, or is too ignorant to understand how he is helping Russia. Trump’s performance was so bad that it was almost universally panned—not just by liberal commentators; not just by the mainstream media; not just by longtime, nonpartisan government officials; but also by a procession of Fox News personalities, right up until Trump’s staunchest champions, Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson, came on in prime time.

Newt Gingrich, who has become an acrobatically agile defender of anything Trump says and does, called the press conference a mistake and said he hoped Trump would “clarify” his comments—as though there was any doubt about what the president said. The former National Security Council spokesman Michael Anton, who once wrote an essay comparing the obligation to vote for Trump to the duty of the passengers who took down Flight 93 on 9/11, canceled a CNN appearance, saying even he couldn’t defend Trump’s comments. Congressional Republicans flatly contradicted Trump’s statements and said Russia was to blame.

On Tuesday, trying to calm the furor, Trump briefly spoke at the White House, reversing many of his most controversial statements in Helsinki. He really did accept the intelligence community’s conclusions about Russian meddling, Trump said (except he speculated there might be other culprits). And he claimed he actually meant to say that he didn’t see any reason that Russia would not be behind the attacks. The president seemed to hope that if he said something radically different at home, it would erase the damage done by his comments in Helsinki, ignoring the confusion sown by his neck-snapping and dubious reversal.

This feels like a low point, and yet the nation has been here several times recently. Trump’s past six days are reminiscent of last summer’s meltdown, which was caused by his response after white supremacists initiated violence at a rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. Before that, there was a 10-day stretch in May 2017 when the presidency seemed to be falling apart: Trump fired FBI Director James Comey; contradicted his own official justification for the firing; welcomed Russian officials into the Oval Office; disclosed to them highly sensitive classified information obtained by an ally; demonstrated economic illiteracy in an interview; and threatened Comey with (nonexistent) tapes of their conversations, setting in motion the appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

Before that was his August 2016 meltdown, as Trump’s polling collapsed, he feuded with Gold Star parents, he blamed victims of sexual harassment, he verbally attacked firefighters, and he called for allowing Russia to annex Crimea. (It is surprising how often Russia crops up during these meltdowns.) Then, as in other circumstances, he faced a sharp, but brief, Republican backlash.

Yet these meltdowns keep happening. One-and-a-half years into his presidency, Trump has learned nothing. For the last few months, it seemed like the Trump administration, while not stable by any objective measure, had managed to find something close to a rhythm. The past week shows that that was an illusion. Whatever comfort Trump has found in the job, he still seems to have no grasp on how to conduct himself or govern the nation. The evidence for that assessment is that the essential ingredients for each of these meltdowns remain consistent.

First, where there is a clear right and wrong side, Trump will choose the wrong one: white supremacists over those who oppose them, Russia over America.

Second, he refuses to put much effort into his job or to learn about issues. In the case of Russia, he doesn’t see any reason for Russia to have conducted the hacking, because he hasn’t bothered to read the detailed evidence or understand how Russian efforts to destabilize other countries work. Trump prepared for the meeting with Putin by golfing over the weekend.

Third, he continues to ignore his advisers, who have warned him away from Putin time and again, and who consistently accept the reality of Russian interference. Just as they vainly pleaded with Trump “DO NOT CONGRATULATE” Putin on his reelection, they planned Monday’s meeting with Putin as a confrontational one, in which Trump would call the Russians out. It doesn’t speak much to the aides’ judgment that they really expected Trump to do that, and it shows how Trump improvises as he goes, rejecting any counsel he receives. “This was not the plan,” a White House official griped to CNN’s Jeff Zeleny on Monday. That echoed almost verbatim what an official told Zeleny during the Charlottesville morass: “That was all him—this wasn’t our plan.”

Fourth, Trump continues to obsess over the 2016 election, almost two years after the vote. On the dais in Helsinki, he again showed that he cannot separate the question of Russian interference from the legitimacy of his own victory. “I beat Hillary Clinton easily, and frankly, we beat her, and I’m not saying from the standpoint—we won that race, and it’s a shame there can be even a little bit of a cloud over it,” Trump said, an objectively strange thing to say standing alongside a foreign adversary, in the context of criminal interference in the election. Trump’s fear that the Russia investigation might undermine his legitimacy drove his firing of Comey, too.

Fifth, Trump often bluntly contradicts himself when put in a bind. His remarks on Tuesday are only the latest example. When his first remarks about Charlottesville were panned, Trump delivered a more conventional response two days later. But then, the day after that, still stung by the criticism, he lashed out and said there were good people among the white nationalists. After the White House issued a statement saying Comey was fired for mishandling the Hillary Clinton email investigation, Trump contradicted his aides and said he fired Comey because of the Russia probe. These reversals may be simple panic, but they also make it impossible to ever know what the president really believes.

[Mikey 16,566]

He learned that Kellyanne Conway is a kickass campaign manager. She came from way behind, with much less financing and organization and whooped the Obama/Clinton cartel. I'm pretty sure she'll still be around next time and will be starting on level ground!

[alexava 6,973]

Using alternative facts....yeah kellyann is awesome. 

[AUFAN78 3,894]

At some point, the left has to move past the noise of these weak effeminate males. I see this as a great time to start. Why not? What do you have in common? 

[DKW 86 7,419]

5 hours ago, homersapien said:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/trump-putin-russia-comments/565352/

The president's waffling on Russian interference was part of a week long meltdown—a summer tradition that started during his campaign.

First, where there is a clear right and wrong side, Trump will choose the wrong one: white supremacists over those who oppose them, Russia over America.

I  ehav

Second, he refuses to put much effort into his job or to learn about issues. In the case of Russia, he doesn’t see any reason for Russia to have conducted the hacking, because he hasn’t bothered to read the detailed evidence or understand how Russian efforts to destabilize other countries work. Trump prepared for the meeting with Putin by golfing over the weekend.

Third, he continues to ignore his advisers, who have warned him away from Putin time and again, and who consistently accept the reality of Russian interference. Just as they vainly pleaded with Trump “DO NOT CONGRATULATE” Putin on his reelection, they planned Monday’s meeting with Putin as a confrontational one, in which Trump would call the Russians out. It doesn’t speak much to the aides’ judgment that they really expected Trump to do that, and it shows how Trump improvises as he goes, rejecting any counsel he receives. “This was not the plan,” a White House official griped to CNN’s Jeff Zeleny on Monday. That echoed almost verbatim what an official told Zeleny during the Charlottesville morass: “That was all him—this wasn’t our plan.”

Fourth, Trump continues to obsess over the 2016 election, almost two years after the vote. On the dais in Helsinki, he again showed that he cannot separate the question of Russian interference from the legitimacy of his own victory. “I beat Hillary Clinton easily, and frankly, we beat her, and I’m not saying from the standpoint—we won that race, and it’s a shame there can be even a little bit of a cloud over it,” Trump said, an objectively strange thing to say standing alongside a foreign adversary, in the context of criminal interference in the election. Trump’s fear that the Russia investigation might undermine his legitimacy drove his firing of Comey, too.

Fifth, Trump often bluntly contradicts himself when put in a bind. His remarks on Tuesday are only the latest example. When his first remarks about Charlottesville were panned, Trump delivered a more conventional response two days later. But then, the day after that, still stung by the criticism, he lashed out and said there were good people among the white nationalists. After the White House issued a statement saying Comey was fired for mishandling the Hillary Clinton email investigation, Trump contradicted his aides and said he fired Comey because of the Russia probe. These reversals may be simple panic, but they also make it impossible to ever know what the president really believes.

 

 

[homersapien 11,357]

17 hours ago, AUFAN78 said:

At some point, the left has to move past the noise of these weak effeminate males. I see this as a great time to start. Why not? What do you have in common? 

Maybe Nola can explain this post? He "liked it".

[SaltyTiger 7,777]

6 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Maybe Nola can explain this post? He "liked it".

Well Homer, 78 is saying that the left has to move past the noise of these weak effeminate males. He also sees this as great time to to start. Further he says "Why not? What do you have in common?"

I hope this helps you. If not my colleague @NolaAuTiger will attempt to do so. 

[homersapien 11,357]

7 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

Well Homer, 78 is saying that the left has to move past the noise of these weak effeminate males. He also sees this as great time to to start. Further he says "Why not? What do you have in common?"

I hope this helps you. If not my colleague @NolaAuTiger will attempt to do so. 

Sorry that doesn't help much.  By "weak effeminate males" is he referring to the author of this piece or is that just a poo fling toward people who point out the obvious for a living?

"Why not"  what?

Who's "you" and "have in common" with whom?

And I asked Nola, because he seemed to understand it.

 

[SaltyTiger 7,777]

1 hour ago, homersapien said:

Sorry that doesn't help much.  By "weak effeminate males" is he referring to the author of this piece or is that just a poo fling toward people who point out the obvious for a living?

"Why not"  what?

Who's "you" and "have in common" with whom?

And I asked Nola, because he seemed to understand it.

 

Nola will get back with on those minor details. He understands many things that you do not Brother Homer. Explains them much better than I can.

He is probably tied up on a big case this afternoon. you know, interning and all this summer. 

[AU64 10,122]

1 minute ago, SaltyTiger said:

Nola will get back with on those minor details. He understands many things that you do not Brother Homer. Explains them much better than I can.

He is probably tied up on a big case this afternoon. you know, interning and all this summer. 

Look forward to NoLa's comments....as for DT learning nothing, I expect he learned not to trust B O who back in 2016 assured all Americans that Russia did not have the ability to affect the outcome of the election.  

https://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/12/13/obama-crushes-conspiracy-no-evidence-russia-tampered-votes-election/

 

[SaltyTiger 7,777]

3 minutes ago, AU64 said:

Look forward to NoLa's comments....as for DT learning nothing, I expect he learned not to trust B O who back in 2016 assured all Americans that Russia did not have the ability to affect the outcome of the election.  

https://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/12/13/obama-crushes-conspiracy-no-evidence-russia-tampered-votes-election/

 

Really?

“None of this should be a big surprise,” Obama said, “Russia trying to influence our elections dates back to the Soviet Union.”

[Elephant Tipper 430]

"Trump has learned nothing".   Your thread title, along with the article itself, show that both libs such as yourself and aaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll the liberal media don't get it.  America doesn't care about the Russia "collusion", Russia "meddling" diatribe that you promote, that is, it falls on deaf ears.....everyday and in every way because it isn't true.   You guys are out in left field waiting for the popup to drop while DJT has already hit it over the fence and rounding the bases.  You guys are gonna get clocked in the 2018 elections, mainly because your focused on fake news and fake investigations.  But who am I to stand in your way.  Keep the Russia hits coming.  Maybe someone in Berkley will hear.

The Gallup poll just released, can't even measure a concern for "the situation with Russia".  People don't care about Russia, instead, they want jobs, opportunity and prosperity, not nebulous fake crimes supposedly committed by DJT.  Those desires for prosperity by the public are being met by DJT.  What's funny is that Dem campaign for this fall is going to be on how they'll take that prosperity away, those crumbs.  GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE !  You guys are tone deaf.

The poll:  https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/most-important-problem.aspx

Gallup Poll Shows Americans Couldn't Care Less (Literally) About 'Situation With Russia'

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33279/gallup-polls-show-americans-couldnt-care-less-joseph-curl

[AU64 10,122]

1 hour ago, Elephant Tipper said:

"Trump has learned nothing".   Your thread title, along with the article itself, show that both libs such as yourself and aaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll the liberal media don't get it.  America doesn't care about the Russia "collusion", Russia "meddling" diatribe that you promote, that is, it falls on deaf ears.....everyday and in every way because it isn't true.   You guys are out in left field waiting for the popup to drop while DJT has already hit it over the fence and rounding the bases.  You guys are gonna get clocked in the 2018 elections, mainly because your focused on fake news and fake investigations.  But who am I to stand in your way.  Keep the Russia hits coming.  Maybe someone in Berkley will hear.

The Gallup poll just released, can't even measure a concern for "the situation with Russia".  People don't care about Russia, instead, they want jobs, opportunity and prosperity, not nebulous fake crimes supposedly committed by DJT.  Those desires for prosperity by the public are being met by DJT.  What's funny is that Dem campaign for this fall is going to be on how they'll take that prosperity away, those crumbs.  GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE !  You guys are tone deaf.

The poll:  https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/most-important-problem.aspx

Gallup Poll Shows Americans Couldn't Care Less (Literally) About 'Situation With Russia'

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33279/gallup-polls-show-americans-couldnt-care-less-joseph-curl

Interesting .....as is the fact that ISIS has about disappeared from the list of concerns ….and from the daily news.   I can't recall when I last heard some talking head talking about the ISIS caliphate. 

[aubiefifty 16,740]

7 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

Well Homer, 78 is saying that the left has to move past the noise of these weak effeminate males. He also sees this as great time to to start. Further he says "Why not? What do you have in common?"

I hope this helps you. If not my colleague @NolaAuTiger will attempt to do so. 

i believe the left can say the same thing to 78 concerning trump. trump is effeminate to the core tho he thinks he is bad. and the only thing bad he is is at lying. trump is playing into putins hands. and putin is a thug and a murderer who fixed his own election. if he would screw his own country in a national election why would he not try to mess around in ours? and it baffles me that y'all believe trump after all his lies but refuse to believe the facts of all our intel agencies as well as those of our allies. we have basically lost the trust of our allies at this point and i cannot say i believe them. trump commits treason for whatever reason and then says i mixed up my words and you cats believe him. trump will sell this country to its doom if he has to to try and say russia never influenced the election. now thhat the repukes have finally admitted russia did interfere logic says they DID influence the election. how much? i have no idea.but i can tell you hillary is smarter than trump and putin would have no chance to get sanctions lessened under her. hell trump had barely been in office  when he wanted to reduce or do away with sanctions. and ya know you guys hold dems to a higher standard than your own. i would love to see how you guys freaked out if obama had not released his taxes. tell bone spurs to release his taxes and then you have a good idea of his connections with the russians. just like you guys think the mueller thing is a witch hunt. why? because if the facts are allowed to come out you will find bone spurs in a whole lot of trouble. oh....and the fact that trump wants to let russia investigate the interference claims is laughable. but uou folks keep wearing those blinders and put bone spurs over this country.

[SaltyTiger 7,777]

17 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

DID influence the election.

No they did not. Perhaps "meddled" which has been on going for years. Guess we are stupid to question why it is so important to you guys now.

BTW, I used type with no no caps or paragraphs, blocks...etc. tough to read and follow. Elle and Tex jumped me hard about it about. Guess it is appropriate if you say things they agree with.

[aubiefifty 16,740]

1 minute ago, SaltyTiger said:

No they did not. Perhaps "meddled" which has been on going for years. Guess we are stupid to question why it is so important to you guys now.

BTW, I used type with no no caps or paragraphs, blocks...etc. tough to read and follow. Elle and Tex jumped me hard about it about. Guess it is appropriate if you say things they agree with.

 

[aubiefifty 16,740]

you do not know or cannot prove they did not either for the record. they flooded every single thing they could with hate stuff about hillary. to assume it had not effect at all is pretty stupid.  as for my typing i do not care. i hate they picked on you but i have had two guys jump me at different times on here and i was pretty hard in my response so maybe that might be why no one else has bothered to say anything to me? when people jump me i think of them typing in red ink and being an old teacher and a pain in the ass. i keep normally three windows open when online so i prefer speed. if folks cannot handle it they are free to ignore me. shrugs. and i do not mean that in a bad way.

[homersapien 11,357]

5 hours ago, Elephant Tipper said:

"Trump has learned nothing".   Your thread title, along with the article itself, show that both libs such as yourself and aaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll the liberal media don't get it.  America doesn't care about the Russia "collusion", Russia "meddling" diatribe that you promote, that is, it falls on deaf ears.....everyday and in every way because it isn't true.   You guys are out in left field waiting for the popup to drop while DJT has already hit it over the fence and rounding the bases.  You guys are gonna get clocked in the 2018 elections, mainly because your focused on fake news and fake investigations.  But who am I to stand in your way.  Keep the Russia hits coming.  Maybe someone in Berkley will hear.

The Gallup poll just released, can't even measure a concern for "the situation with Russia".  People don't care about Russia, instead, they want jobs, opportunity and prosperity, not nebulous fake crimes supposedly committed by DJT.  Those desires for prosperity by the public are being met by DJT.  What's funny is that Dem campaign for this fall is going to be on how they'll take that prosperity away, those crumbs.  GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE !  You guys are tone deaf.

The poll:  https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/most-important-problem.aspx

Gallup Poll Shows Americans Couldn't Care Less (Literally) About 'Situation With Russia'

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33279/gallup-polls-show-americans-couldnt-care-less-joseph-curl

Blubber blubber blubber blubber blubber blubber.....

[SaltyTiger 7,777]

7 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

you do not know or cannot prove they did not either for the record.

And that is not the point. The point is why it is so important to you pinheads now? Further, I keep 6 windows open but started typing correctly out of courtesy. I am a wonderful guy like that. You should learn from me.

BTW, do not give a sob story about limited income and Sonics again. I lived in Anniston for a while when young and used to visit often Sure you perch on top of the mountain and sneer down at us deplorable s.

[aubiefifty 16,740]

2 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

And that is not the point. The point is why it is so important to you pinheads now? Further, I keep 6 windows open but started typing correctly out of courtesy. I am a wonderful guy like that. You should learn from me.

BTW, do not give a sob story about limited income and Sonics again. I lived in Anniston for a while when young and used to visit often Sure you perch on top of the mountain and sneer down at us deplorable s.

that is the point.you claim something you cannot prove. it is called reason. try it. and the sonic thing was not a sob story but a joke. if you get pissed and want to bash me you need to try harder. as for you assuming what i do or do not do makes you an ass. i do not look down on anyone but hell do not let the truth stop you. it never has before. you never got over the fact that us libs pissed you off so bad you got too drunk to type or make any sense at all. that is a fact. you melted like butter it is still here in one of these threads. as for my typing which you seem to want to bang remember sonic is not plural. also remember your period when you finish a sentence. and if you keep wanting to make this personal maybe you are a deplorable. you claim you are a wonderful guy but you are just another a**hole trying to make someone look bad over a joke. so please.......get over yourself. you do not know s*** and just suck up on these threads to guys that are smarter than you. now. try again.

[SaltyTiger 7,777]

10 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

that is the point.you claim something you cannot prove. it is called reason. try it. and the sonic thing was not a sob story but a joke. if you get pissed and want to bash me you need to try harder. as for you assuming what i do or do not do makes you an ass. i do not look down on anyone but hell do not let the truth stop you. it never has before. you never got over the fact that us libs pissed you off so bad you got too drunk to type or make any sense at all. that is a fact. you melted like butter it is still here in one of these threads. as for my typing which you seem to want to bang remember sonic is not plural. also remember your period when you finish a sentence. and if you keep wanting to make this personal maybe you are a deplorable. you claim you are a wonderful guy but you are just another a**hole trying to make someone look bad over a joke. so please.......get over yourself. you do not know s*** and just suck up on these threads to guys that are smarter than you. now. try again.

ok fifty, sorry again.......

[aubiefifty 16,740]

1 minute ago, SaltyTiger said:

ok fifty, sorry again.......

no you are not. you decided to attack me and make it personal. what had i done before? today i was cutting up with you and telling folks you were a stud muffin. i can understand the anger at first because it might appear you might think i was calling you gay or something.but there was no need for the last post.. anyway tomorrow is another day salty. we can always try again. i am going to get a buzz and watch second hand lion cus i am a huge duval fan and have not seen it in years. also i have never used the word deplorable or called anyone that on here. my go to word to take a shot at y'all is repukes. have a good evening.

[AUFAN78 3,894]

7 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

Nola will get back with on those minor details. He understands many things that you do not Brother Homer. Explains them much better than I can.

He is probably tied up on a big case this afternoon. you know, interning and all this summer. 

Homes knows damn well what I am saying. There is a big difference in understanding vs. not acknowledging the obvious. It is a choice. Homes chooses manufactured outrage. He and the sheep know this all to well.

[homersapien 11,357]

9 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

no you are not. you decided to attack me and make it personal. what had i done before? today i was cutting up with you and telling folks you were a stud muffin. i can understand the anger at first because it might appear you might think i was calling you gay or something.but there was no need for the last post.. anyway tomorrow is another day salty. we can always try again. i am going to get a buzz and watch second hand lion cus i am a huge duval fan and have not seen it in years. also i have never used the word deplorable or called anyone that on here. my go to word to take a shot at y'all is repukes. have a good evening.

Hey, that's "brother" Salty.  

[homersapien 11,357]

1 minute ago, AUFAN78 said:

Homes knows damn well what I am saying. There is a big difference in understanding vs. not acknowledging the obvious. It is a choice. Homes chooses manufactured outrage. He and the sheep know this all to well.

Not sure what that means but it at least sounds profound, sorta.

Baaaaaaa!