Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, GiveEmElle said: Oh I think you’d get a pass on this one. I’m sure we’d all love to see how you spin your president being banned from a funeral. Would you accuse McCain of being a socialist democrat? Or a squealing pig? Go ahead. If he is not YOUR president, why do you even care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said: If he is not YOUR POTUS why do you even care? I like to know what the morally confused Christian Patriot Trump supporters think. It’s an excellent study of human behavior/insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said: I like to know what the morally confused Christian Patriot Trump supporters think. It’s an excellent study of human behavior/insanity. You discredit yourself from judging anyone with your very words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Proud Tiger said: You discredit yourself from judging anyone with your very words. No true Christian can support Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,357 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 7 hours ago, Proud Tiger said: You discredit yourself from judging anyone with your very words. "I prefer soldiers who didn't get captured." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mims44 1,867 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 10 hours ago, GiveEmElle said: No true Christian can support Trump. Ahh I remember that passage. And Jesus said to them " If they ain't as awesome as me, you should despise them, mock them at every turn, and whatever you do never ever support them!" Elle 34:8 Book of Elle I could never forget this scripture, I live my life by it. By the way elle, you're still a hateful dummy, never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Mims44 said: Ahh I remember that passage. And Jesus said to them " If they ain't as awesome as me, you should despise them, mock them at every turn, and whatever you do never ever support them!" Elle 34:8 Book of Elle I could never forget this scripture, I live my life by it. By the way elle, you're still a hateful dummy, never change. Now you made me spit coffee on my keyboard laughing so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Mims44 said: Ahh I remember that passage. And Jesus said to them " If they ain't as awesome as me, you should despise them, mock them at every turn, and whatever you do never ever support them!" Elle 34:8 Book of Elle I could never forget this scripture, I live my life by it. By the way elle, you're still a hateful dummy, never change. Explain to me how a Christian can support racism, since clearly you’re the intelligent one in the room. Cause I’m certain there is a verse in the Bible that says immigrants should be treated well and we should love our neighbors. Explain to me where in the Bible it says you can have multiple sex partners while your married. I was certain their was a verse that said one husband one wife. And I’m going to need you to explain that verse that talks about love because all I see is a POTUS who hates. Trump extolles zero Christ like qualities. In fact, he is the opposite. It’s sad that satanists and witches speak out against him while Christians suck their thumbs and defend Trump with meaningless platitudes- “We didn’t elect a pastor”, “No one is perfect” and “No one can live up to Jesus.” They sure don’t have that grace and mercy for Trangendered, homosexuals and women who’ve had abortions. Tell me, where’s the verse that says we only forgive rich white males? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mims44 1,867 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 minute ago, GiveEmElle said: Explain to me how a Christian can support racism, since clearly you’re the intelligent one in the room. Cause I’m certain there is a verse in the Bible that says immigrants should be treated well and we should love our neighbors. Explain to me where in the Bible it says you can have multiple sex partners while your married. I was certain their was a verse that said one husband one wife. And I’m going to need you to explain that verse that talks about love because all I see is a POTUS who hates. Trump extolles zero Christ like qualities. In fact, he is the opposite. It’s sad that satanists and witches speak out against him while Christians suck their thumbs and defend Trump with meaningless platitudes- “We didn’t elect a pastor”, “No one is perfect” and “No one can live up to Jesus.” They sure don’t have that grace and mercy for Trangendered, homosexuals and women who’ve had abortions. Tell me, where’s the verse that says we only forgive rich white males? What a quaint lil rant you got there... too bad it's pretty off topic. I want the scripture that says that we need to hate and belittle the racist, the aggressor, the fornicator, the sinner. (The Pentateuch doesn't count. ) IE: I despise a lot of who trump is and what he does, but I don't count myself as a "good" christian. If I was gonna try and be a better christian, my hate for him would be one of the things I would need to let go of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 40 minutes ago, Mims44 said: What a quaint lil rant you got there... too bad it's pretty off topic. I want the scripture that says that we need to hate and belittle the racist, the aggressor, the fornicator, the sinner. (The Pentateuch doesn't count. ) IE: I despise a lot of who trump is and what he does, but I don't count myself as a "good" christian. If I was gonna try and be a better christian, my hate for him would be one of the things I would need to let go of. Nice little response that doesn’t answer my questions. You cannot adhere to the teachings of Christ and support a POTUS whose actions contradict Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,892 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 22 hours ago, GiveEmElle said: No true Christian can support Trump. But they could support Hillary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 17 hours ago, AUFAN78 said: But they could support Hillary? Which of her actions contradict the teaching of Christ? Use legitimate actions not conspiracy theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said: Which of her actions contradict the teaching of Christ? Use legitimate actions not conspiracy theories. How about starting with violating State Dept. policy of having a private server which has been hacked and now possibly China has classified info from hacking ALL her e-mails. Then lets go to demeaning the women Bill got involved with Then lets go back to her getting disbarred in Arkansas for unethical behavior. I can add a lot more but I'm no more qualified to judge her than you are anyone concerning their being a Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,357 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 7 hours ago, Proud Tiger said: How about starting with violating State Dept. policy of having a private server which has been hacked and now possibly China has classified info from hacking ALL her e-mails. Yeah, I'm sure that Christ would have focused on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 1:57 PM, Proud Tiger said: How about starting with violating State Dept. policy of having a private server which has been hacked and now possibly China has classified info from hacking ALL her e-mails. Then lets go to demeaning the women Bill got involved with Then lets go back to her getting disbarred in Arkansas for unethical behavior. I can add a lot more but I'm no more qualified to judge her than you are anyone concerning their being a Christian. I thought it was Russia that hacked her emails. Point me to the Bible verse where Jesus said “thou shalt have no private servers.” I’ve read the entire Bible but don’t recall that verse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 12 hours ago, GiveEmElle said: I thought it was Russia that hacked her emails. ----guess you aren't keeping up. Point me to the Bible verse where Jesus said “thou shalt have no private servers.” I’ve read the entire Bible but don’t recall that verse. --never said it did but usually Christians follow the law Comments in red. I would suggest you read Matthew 7:1-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 12:23 PM, Proud Tiger said: Comments in red. I would suggest you read Matthew 7:1-5 I suggest you read the comments in red in the Bible. Maybe if you had an understanding of who Jesus really was you wouldn’t unashamedly defend a man whose life is in direct opposition to the teachings of Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, GiveEmElle said: I suggest you read the comments in red in the Bible. Maybe if you had an understanding of who Jesus really was you wouldn’t unashamedly defend a man whose life is in direct opposition to the teachings of Christ. 1. Stay on course. I responded to your post re. Hillary. I have never defended Trump's personal life. I have said over and over he is not my pastor or ethical standard. Do you defend all Hillary's or Bill's actions as consistent with the teachings of Christ? 2. What qualifies you to judge whether anyone is a Christian or not? Opinion is sometime different from what's in a persons heart. Are you sinless? I again suggest you read Matthew 7:1-5 and tell us why you think you are excluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,472 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 52 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said: I again suggest you read Matthew 7:1-5 and tell us why you think you are excluded. Tell me, PT...how do you square this interpretation (and that you've expressed previously) of "do not judge" with passages where Jesus, Paul and Peter clearly call out people out for sin and wrongdoing? Define "judging" as you see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Proud Tiger said: 1. Stay on course. I responded to your post re. Hillary. I have never defended Trump's personal life. I have said over and over he is not my pastor or ethical standard. Do you defend all Hillary's or Bill's actions as consistent with the teachings of Christ? 2. What qualifies you to judge whether anyone is a Christian or not? Opinion is sometime different from what's in a persons heart. Are you sinless? I again suggest you read Matthew 7:1-5 and tell us why you think you are excluded. I never claimed to be included or excluded. What I claimed is that someone who lives in accordance with the teachings of Christ shouldn’t be able to support him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 49 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said: I never claimed to be included or excluded. What I claimed is that someone who lives in accordance with the teachings of Christ shouldn’t be able to support him. Then we just disagree. I support him my President and appreciate all his accomplishments. And I am a Christian, a lot of my friends who support him are, but apparently just not as good as you. as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, TitanTiger said: Tell me, PT...how do you square this interpretation (and that you've expressed previously) of "do not judge" with passages where Jesus, Paul and Peter clearly call out people out for sin and wrongdoing? Define "judging" as you see it. They define judging as saying anything negative about Trump while simultaneously criticizing Hillary and Obama. As long as it’s their guy, your judging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 51 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said: Then we just disagree. I support him my President and appreciate all his accomplishments. And I am a Christian, a lot of my friends who support him are, but apparently just not as good as you. as you. I never said I was better than anyone else. But I have read the Bible. And there’s this story where Jesus tells his disciples that when he was naked they clothed him, when he was hungry they fed him, when he was afflicted they healed him. This really puzzled the disciples. They didn’t recall ever seeing Jesus naked, hungry, and afflicted. So they asked him, “when did we see you like this Master?” And Jesus told them that whenever they did these things- feed, clothe, heal- to the least of these then they did it unto him. Immigrant children are the least of these. They were put in cages. Children with pre-existing conditions are the least of these. Their healthcare is being stolen. Refugees fleeing their homeland to safety are the least of these. They were arrested. The poor are they least of these. They may lose food stamps. Good people don’t support evil deeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 hours ago, GiveEmElle said: I never said I was better than anyone else. But I have read the Bible. And there’s this story where Jesus tells his disciples that when he was naked they clothed him, when he was hungry they fed him, when he was afflicted they healed him. This really puzzled the disciples. They didn’t recall ever seeing Jesus naked, hungry, and afflicted. So they asked him, “when did we see you like this Master?” And Jesus told them that whenever they did these things- feed, clothe, heal- to the least of these then they did it unto him. Immigrant children are the least of these. They were put in cages. Children with pre-existing conditions are the least of these. Their healthcare is being stolen. Refugees fleeing their homeland to safety are the least of these. They were arrested. The poor are they least of these. They may lose food stamps. Good people don’t support evil deeds. I read the Bible every day too so don't be a pious Bible thumper and wave that at me. But Jesus also taught that we should love our neighbor as we do ourselves, the greatest commandment, and not to judge lest we so be judged by our Father in Heaven. I take that to mean hate in our heart is a sin. I'm comfortable with my relationship with God who loves me in spite of all my shortcomings and hope you are too. Love and peace to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,357 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Good grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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