homersapien 11,354 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 hours ago, DKW 86 said: Maybe he was just making fun of people that over react to everything. I mean THAT was the point of the 4chan hoax on this. Do you really believe that real racists ENACTED this? Or are they just kind of riding the flow of what the 4chan-ners did? Truth is it is likely a combination of the two, but the problem is that not every man-woman-child-grandparent that uses an okay sign is a racist. I bet that in the last year, the number of people using it as a meme and a hoax out number the WP Users by a healthy margin and that the people using it innocently because 1) those that dont pay this close attention and 2) those that really dont give a damn far out number all of them put together. Wow, REALLY! You have a keen eye for the obvious. Unfortunately, that's not the question on the table. The question, as I see it, as this a totally absurd possibility? Here's the sort of real world fact that makes me think that it's at least possible, even if unlikely. https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article218554115.html Cop with a neo-Nazi past resigned — then got hired by a different Oklahoma department Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article218554115.html#storylink=cpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 12 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: With you Grumps. Always considered that the universal A okay with little thought to it. Never heard of any WP sign. Crazy Thanks for reiterating my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 11 hours ago, homersapien said: Gosh, you guy posting all the innocent "OK" signs are just as smart as the white nationalists who chose that sign as a inside signal. Look, just like Grumps, I have no idea if that's what this guy is doing. In fact, my inclination is to say it was innocent. But then, I have no idea. It does seems strange that he would come under that much scrutiny by his associates (boss?) Did anyone other than me watch the clip? He definitely glanced at the camera before he did it. And it does seem a rather odd to make such a gesture alongside your head. C'mon Big Bird, you gave me a "face-slap" for this post. Give me something I can work with. Don't wimp out. Bring something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan4Auburn 1,626 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 hours ago, homersapien said: Really? That "really cracks you up"? Did he get "pulled from his job"? Give us the update on this. I haven't heard. Should probably read the OP, second paragraph, then shouldn't you. Quote The man has since been removed from the Florence response operations and the incident is under investigation, said Coast Guard Lt. J.B. Zorn. So is this where you call me a a**hole and a liar sandwiched between a false apology and then imply I'm racist or crazy (but there isn't a difference you know) for pointing out the hypocrisy in the two situations. So sad it is funny. Did I strike a nerve the other day as you would say to me. Quote This is just sad. I'll give you - and PT - the benefit of doubt and assume this response is the result of extreme cognitive dissonance instead of outright racism. (As if it makes a huge practical difference.) That was you on 8/12. Edited of course, cause your probably did just straight call em racist first. And, would I really need to look hard to you calling anyone that anything about Trump that you don't agree with a racist. You have posted more than your fair share of articles/commentaries to support anyone believing you associate all those individuals with extreme racism. Good Grief man, you are just batshit crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Texan4Auburn said: Should probably read the OP, second paragraph, then shouldn't you. So is this where you call me a a**hole and a liar sandwiched between a false apology and then imply I'm racist or crazy (but there isn't a difference you know) for pointing out the hypocrisy in the two situations. So sad it is funny. Did I strike a nerve the other day as you would say to me. That was you on 8/12. Edited of course, cause your probably did just straight call em racist first. And, would I really need to look hard to you calling anyone that anything about Trump that you don't agree with a racist. You have posted more than your fair share of articles/commentaries to support anyone believing you associate all those individuals with extreme racism. Good Grief man, you are just batshit crazy. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,411 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 17 hours ago, Texan4Auburn said: Should probably read the OP, second paragraph, then shouldn't you. So is this where you call me a a**hole and a liar sandwiched between a false apology and then imply I'm racist or crazy (but there isn't a difference you know) for pointing out the hypocrisy in the two situations. So sad it is funny. Did I strike a nerve the other day as you would say to me. That was you on 8/12. Edited of course, cause your probably did just straight call em racist first. And, would I really need to look hard to you calling anyone that anything about Trump that you don't agree with a racist. You have posted more than your fair share of articles/commentaries to support anyone believing you associate all those individuals with extreme racism. Good Grief man, you are just batshit crazy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/18/2018 at 3:07 AM, Texan4Auburn said: Should probably read the OP, second paragraph, then shouldn't you. So is this where you call me a a**hole and a liar sandwiched between a false apology and then imply I'm racist or crazy (but there isn't a difference you know) for pointing out the hypocrisy in the two situations. So sad it is funny. Did I strike a nerve the other day as you would say to me. Sorry, but I meant to say, did he get fired? I knew he was removed from that particular duty. Look, I don't know why you are so sensitive about whatever I responded to earlier which I classified as either being racist or crazy. I don't remember it. Perhaps you can quote or direct me to it. We are all racist to some degree and I have no reason to believe you are particularly racist - particularly since you have an hispanic wife, right? But I have no problem with calling out a post that seems racist to me. If you want to discuss that 8/12 post, I am willing to do so without getting into personal judgement. Maybe there's a valid reason why someone might see it as racist. Anyway, you sure do seem sensitive over it. Perhaps you protest too much? As for touching a nerve, that discussion is in another thread not this one. So if you want to calm down and review it, lets do so. Maybe I was out of line. But I won't have any problem admitting it now. But I don't even remember what thread it was in. So, if you can't let it go, let's revisit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 12 hours ago, DKW 86 said: Lose the Toy Story "Sad little man" gif? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUatHeart 624 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 It's the circle game. Like Bird said, if you look at the circle you get hit. My kids play it all the time. I completely hate this whiny, I'm a victim culture that we live in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDavE 332 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I would advise anybody that is offended by this hand gesture to avoid ever going to the Texas-OU football game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaturdayGT 719 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_(gesture) Quote Allegations of usage by white supremacists Media outlets began reporting on the usage of the OK gesture being used as a white supremacist hand gesture.[16] The Anti-Defamation League has confirmed that the OK gesture is not a white supremacist hand sign.[17] However, while usage of the "OK" sign as a specific white power symbol allegedly started as a 4chan prank, some believe that it is now being used as a gesture of identification among members of the white nationalist alt-right movement.[18] So the media started turn the OK symbol into this whole white supremacy sign pretty much, or at least got it rolling...and I think I just noticed why...I was watching a bit of Trumps speach in Vegas, and I noticed he makes this symbol quite often.....So if the media wants to convince us all to think Trumps like the new grand wizard of the KKK, whats the obvious thing to do? Convince the mediabots that every time they see Trump do that OK type gesture as we all know it, we are now supposed put two and two together and see proof that Trumps a white supremacist!.....Is that about right? I could be wrong, but I think I nailed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,693 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 So what's the latest? Did they punish the evil white supremacist? Or did someone put their finger in the hole and then hit the guy in the shoulder and all is well? We don't need to let this go away! The victims of this horrendous act should receive the justice due to them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Grumps said: So what's the latest? Did they punish the evil white supremacist? Or did someone put their finger in the hole and then hit the guy in the shoulder and all is well? We don't need to let this go away! The victims of this horrendous act should receive the justice due to them! I've been wondering that as well. How was this resolved? Was there intent or was it totally innocent? Personally - unlike those who have been having such fun taking a definitive position - I am willing to withold judgement until that is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 On a similar note, here's an incident I missed. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/397509-alabama-police-officers-suspended-for-making-hand-gesture Alabama police officers suspended for making hand gesture linked to white power Four Alabama police officers have been suspended without pay after the city's mayor says they made a hand gesture associated with white supremacist movements in an official photo. Local news station ABC 33 reports that four officers in the Jasper Police Department were suspended on Tuesday after a photo appeared in the Daily Mountain Eagle showing the four men making an "OK" gesture with their hands, which some say is meant to look like the letters "WP" for "white power." "That's contradictory to how we run our city. That's not our mindset. That's not the way we do things and they used poor judgement," Jasper Mayor David O'Mary told ABC News, adding that the concern was first raised by citizens. Others say the symbol is simply a reference to the child's prank known as the "circle game," which tricks victims into looking down at a circular gesture near the prankster's crotch. Local residents identified that game when shown the photo, according to ABC, and O'Mary says he did not ask what the officers meant by the gesture. "It's a kid game. Going around and hitting everybody when you see it," one town resident told ABC. The four officers, part of the city's drug enforcement task force, will be suspended for two weeks without pay. O'Mary defended his decision to the news station by reporting that two black officers on the city's police force spoke with him after it was made, saying they agreed with the suspensions. "We talked to two senior African-American law enforcement officers that are on the City of Jasper's payroll and they think it's fair and that's a pretty good sounding board." The Anti-Defamation League, which tracks hate groups and hate speech, has said that the "OK" gesture is not necessarily linked to white supremacist movements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Alabama police officers have been suspended without pay after the city's mayor says they made a hand gesture associated with white supremacist movements in an official photo. Local news station ABC 33 reports that four officers in the Jasper Police Department were suspended on Tuesday after a photo appeared in the Daily Mountain Eagle showing the four men making an "OK" gesture with their hands, which some say is meant to look like the letters "WP" for "white power." "That's contradictory to how we run our city. That's not our mindset. That's not the way we do things and they used poor judgement," Jasper Mayor David O'Mary told ABC News, adding that the concern was first raised by citizens. Others say the symbol is simply a reference to the child's prank known as the "circle game," which tricks victims into looking down at a circular gesture near the prankster's crotch. Local residents identified that game when shown the photo, according to ABC, and O'Mary says he did not ask what the officers meant by the gesture. "It's a kid game. Going around and hitting everybody when you see it," one town resident told ABC. The four officers, part of the city's drug enforcement task force, will be suspended for two weeks without pay. O'Mary defended his decision to the news station by reporting that two black officers on the city's police force spoke with him after it was made, saying they agreed with the suspensions. "We talked to two senior African-American law enforcement officers that are on the City of Jasper's payroll and they think it's fair and that's a pretty good sounding board." The Anti-Defamation League, which tracks hate groups and hate speech, has said that the "OK" gesture is not necessarily linked to white supremacist movements.
Grumps 3,693 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 What we know for sure is that the people who look at the picture know what the intent of the guys in the picture is. Clearly, these guys were not having fun. They were, in fact, giving notice that they are part of the superior race. How can you see it differently? Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Texan4Auburn 1,626 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Lol, so we are going to call the cops and try and get every white person that does the OK symbol fired now? This mean we can go back to calling the cops on blacks in certain neighborhoods and nobody care? Mean I can link video's all day just from Chicago showing that black men car jack. Also see a Prius involved, Prius the official vehicle of car jacking in Chicago. https://abc7chicago.com/pregnant-woman-husband-carjacked-at-gunpoint-in-bucktown/3795028/ https://abc7chicago.com/video-of-ashburn-carjacking-suspects-released/3771162/ My mom cried laughing when I told her about this cause she had been going through old photo's in preparing to move, seems my U-16 club team did a look at the circle bit in one of the team photo's.. including the non-white guys. Freaking probably get sued now cause I flashed the bunny ears over someone in the 8th grade or something now also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,411 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 So the 4chan hoax has now gone national. The ok sign, BELOW THE WAIST, is about the kid's game as far as I know at least the CG dude may have done it right by doing it above the waist? Quote https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5963895/Four-Alabama-police-officers-suspended-making-alleged-white-power-gesture.html 'Leftists have dug so deep down into their lunacy we must force them to dig more, until the rest of society ain't going anywhere near that s***,' they added. The user posted a graphic of the hand doing the gesture, showing how the hoaxers could claim it spelled out 'WP' for 'white power'. The 4chan user posted this graphic of the gesture, showing how hoaxers could claim it spelled out 'WP' for 'white power' 4chan users then created fake email and Twitter accounts and used the symbol to 'bombard' civil rights organizations and journalists, according to the ADL. 'Some of the hoaxers were possibly racists or white supremacists themselves, as parts of 4chan are something of a haven for them,' the league added. The ADL noted that true white supremacist symbols and signs 'do not form and become accepted overnight'. 'Leaving aside hate group logos, most hate symbols appear and spread organically, over time,' said ADL Senior Research Fellow Mark Pitcavage. 'If someone presents you with a symbol and says it is the big new white supremacist symbol, you should be appropriately skeptical.' https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Circle Game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 14 hours ago, Grumps said: What we know for sure is that the people who look at the picture know what the intent of the guys in the picture is. Clearly, these guys were not having fun. They were, in fact, giving notice that they are part of the superior race. How can you see it differently? Right? I certainly don't know that for sure. But it does look a little suspicious, just like the video of the "Coastie" did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan4Auburn 1,626 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Here is a fun article that discusses how there is secret alt-white supremacy in everything.... like industrial music (yet the people in the picture have rock is not dead shirts, and Shinedown T-shirts lol. Even though you can see in another article one of the musicians is like WTF non of this is affiliated. So Clint Eastwood movies like Kelly's Heroes (sorry Golf) and Where Eagles Dare (where he kills like 100 plus Nazi's) is now white supremacy related. Lord of the Rings... white supremacy related. High n tight haircuts... white supremacist, even though my grandfather actually had that haircut while actually killing Nazi's. Use of the term identity politics (which is a real thing written about by all races) is white supremacy. https://qz.com/1086797/theres-an-alt-right-version-of-everything/ I mean people are trying so hard to tie white supremacy into anything they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 What did you think those Alabama cops were trying to signal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan4Auburn 1,626 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 hours ago, homersapien said: What did you think those Alabama cops were trying to signal? Who knows, maybe they were dicking around like my U-16 team. Do know what they were doing or do you think you know? Not think.. know with 100% certainty. Cause it is the same principal as stereotyping and going after other groups based on actions of others. Maybe they are white supremacist, but we shouldn't judge them so just off of something that has multiple meanings and the color of their skin now should we without proof? Isn't that what we are striving for in all areas and all people? Mean remember they are cops and the motto's are things like "Last year they came with torches, this year they come with badges" and "All Cops are Racist, You better face it". Maybe they have decided to take the hoax and just start dicking with the left. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/08/12/charlottesville_protest_all_cops_are_racist_you_better_face_it.html If you have ever been to Chicago then you know exactly how segregated that city is, in fact it's been labeled the most segregated city in America by legitimate publications. Using your same it's possible concept that you used in this thread, I have every reason to go why are these black teens in certain neighborhoods in that city as you going hmm why are these white guys making the OK or look and get hit symbol. Why I linked as many articles in as many days of car jackings in Chicago by black teens. I have produced the exact same amount of evidence as you have to back me going hmmm... maybe he is here to car-jack someone. I would say even stronger evidence. You can't have it both ways and call it equality or social justice. You want to stop being judged or stereotyped based on certain things, then don't turn around and do it yourself. That becomes retaliation and will solve zero issues. In today's climate that is essentially what you are going to get is retaliation from both sides. This goes for everything. Take this poor white rapper, sorry have to share this cause the song is just sooo bad its funny, but read the article and then go read the tweets that are made about him. Apparently now white people are not allowed to rap or tell their stories lol or have a voice about racism and how whites are viewed at all lol. But I'm really linking it cause the song (not the message) is just that bad and funny. That and the hypocrisy of the article and the respondents that represent real Americans. Like I said be sure to check out the tweets. If those comments were made about a black rapper it would be considered racist and whites telling others what they can and can't do. https://babe.net/2018/02/12/this-white-rapper-just-released-a-music-video-so-woke-it-ended-racism-forever-34462 Lol or even ridiculous stuff like this: https://medium.com/@sharhondaknottdawson/a-helpful-guide-for-white-people-on-black-panther-opening-weekend-2986cfbef36d No. I go to Alamo Draft house because of their rules. No children under 18 without parents, no cell phones, no talking, strict one warning removal process. Be in your seats prior to the movie starting.. yup they have a no late rule.I expect the rules and courtesy of the theater to be in play regardless of it being Captain America or Black Panther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 8 hours ago, Texan4Auburn said: Who knows, maybe they were dicking around like my U-16 team. Do know what they were doing or do you think you know? Not think.. know with 100% certainty. Cause it is the same principal as stereotyping and going after other groups based on actions of others. Maybe they are white supremacist, but we shouldn't judge them so just off of something that has multiple meanings and the color of their skin now should we without proof? Isn't that what we are striving for in all areas and all people? Mean remember they are cops and the motto's are things like "Last year they came with torches, this year they come with badges" and "All Cops are Racist, You better face it". Maybe they have decided to take the hoax and just start dicking with the left. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/08/12/charlottesville_protest_all_cops_are_racist_you_better_face_it.html If you have ever been to Chicago then you know exactly how segregated that city is, in fact it's been labeled the most segregated city in America by legitimate publications. Using your same it's possible concept that you used in this thread, I have every reason to go why are these black teens in certain neighborhoods in that city as you going hmm why are these white guys making the OK or look and get hit symbol. Why I linked as many articles in as many days of car jackings in Chicago by black teens. I have produced the exact same amount of evidence as you have to back me going hmmm... maybe he is here to car-jack someone. I would say even stronger evidence. You can't have it both ways and call it equality or social justice. You want to stop being judged or stereotyped based on certain things, then don't turn around and do it yourself. That becomes retaliation and will solve zero issues. In today's climate that is essentially what you are going to get is retaliation from both sides. This goes for everything. Take this poor white rapper, sorry have to share this cause the song is just sooo bad its funny, but read the article and then go read the tweets that are made about him. Apparently now white people are not allowed to rap or tell their stories lol or have a voice about racism and how whites are viewed at all lol. But I'm really linking it cause the song (not the message) is just that bad and funny. That and the hypocrisy of the article and the respondents that represent real Americans. Like I said be sure to check out the tweets. If those comments were made about a black rapper it would be considered racist and whites telling others what they can and can't do. https://babe.net/2018/02/12/this-white-rapper-just-released-a-music-video-so-woke-it-ended-racism-forever-34462 Lol or even ridiculous stuff like this: https://medium.com/@sharhondaknottdawson/a-helpful-guide-for-white-people-on-black-panther-opening-weekend-2986cfbef36d No. I go to Alamo Draft house because of their rules. No children under 18 without parents, no cell phones, no talking, strict one warning removal process. Be in your seats prior to the movie starting.. yup they have a no late rule.I expect the rules and courtesy of the theater to be in play regardless of it being Captain America or Black Panther. Presumably your use of "you" in the above post is rhetorical and not directed to me. I have already said I have no idea if this (white power signs) is true and I am skeptical it is. But I don't know if it's bogus either. Most of the people responding to this thread - including you - seem 100% sure it's bogus. I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan4Auburn 1,626 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 On 9/24/2018 at 10:45 AM, homersapien said: Presumably your use of "you" in the above post is rhetorical and not directed to me. I have already said I have no idea if this (white power signs) is true and I am skeptical it is. But I don't know if it's bogus either. Most of the people responding to this thread - including you - seem 100% sure it's bogus. I'm not. Pretty sure they got trolled. Like the Alabama cops, if it was linked they would have been kicked off the force. Just for fun what if the Alabama article had a picture of a bunch of black cops and read like this: "Four Alabama police officers have been suspended without pay after the city's mayor says they wore Bull's hats which are associated with African-American criminal gangs out of Chicago. Local news station ABC 33 reports that four officers in the Jasper Police Department were suspended on Tuesday after a photo appeared in the Daily Mountain Eagle showing the four men wearing Chicago Bull's hats which some say is meant to show membership in the violent African American gang Vice Lords. "That's contradictory to how we run our city. That's not our mindset. That's not the way we do things and they used poor judgement," Jasper Mayor David O'Mary told ABC News, adding that the concern was first raised by citizens. Others say the symbol is simply a reference to their favorite NBA team which tricks victims into thinking they will ever win another championship. Local residents identified the NBA team when shown the photo, according to ABC, and O'Mary says he did not ask if the individuals were fans of the NBA. "It's a kid game. You throw a round ball in a round hoop and make millions" one town resident told ABC. The four officers, part of the city's drug enforcement task force, will be suspended for two weeks without pay. O'Mary defended his decision to the news station by reporting that two white Piston's fan on the city's police force spoke with him after it was made, saying they agreed with the suspensions. "We talked to two senior Anglo-Saxon Piston supporting law enforcement officers that are on the City of Jasper's payroll and they think it's fair and that's a pretty good sounding board." The Anti-Defamation League, which tracks hate groups and hate speech, has said that the "OK" gesture is not necessarily linked to the Vice Lords (you could actually insert Bloods if wanted to)." Problem is, can actually support that those gangs use the Bull's gear: Quote Adopted by: The Bloods (nationwide), Black Peace Stone Nation (Chicago), Vice Lords (Chicago), People Nation (Chicago), Mickey Cobras (Chicago)Why: Peace Stone Nation and the Bloods got creative with their acronym game here, with "Bulls" standing for "Boy U Look Like Stone," and "Bloods Usually Live Life Strong/Smart." Mickey Cobras, People Nation, and the Vice Lords all endorse the red and black color scheme of the Bulls. https://www.complex.com/sports/2013/08/most-gang-affiliated-hats-sports-today/chicago-bulls Please feel free to check their turf if you disagree with the linked article. C'mon man, you would call bogus so fast on this and ichy would facepalm anyone that touched it in a heartbeat.Also don't even think there are not cops that will work tips from one gang and grab some cash on their rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,411 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I give you, The Order of the Palms Award...that was awesome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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