Probably a bad idea....

[Beaker 2,457]

Just watching the Cowboys game and I see they fired their veteran OL coach and promoted the assistant.  Now the assistant played in the NFL for  a decade and only coached one yr I think.  

Not saying this is the formula for success, but I wonder if we have any former OL NFL types that would make a "get in your grill," kinda coach that Auburn could use one day (soon).   

Kinda like how we all think K Greene should be on staff in some capacity or Takeo Spikes.  

Bad idea?

[oracle79 3,569]

59 minutes ago, Beaker said:

Just watching the Cowboys game and I see they fired their veteran OL coach and promoted the assistant.  Now the assistant played in the NFL for  a decade and only coached one yr I think.  

Not saying this is the formula for success, but I wonder if we have any former OL NFL types that would make a "get in your grill," kinda coach that Auburn could use one day (soon).   

Kinda like how we all think K Greene should be on staff in some capacity or Takeo Spikes.  

Bad idea?

While I love your sentiment, I'm starting to think those guys are dinosaurs unless they are super charismatic and personable.  My fear is (most) of today's kids aren't able to handle that type of coaching any longer.  They want the "players" coach who can make them feel good about themselves and push their buttons in less obvious ways.  I'd be interested to hear @bigbird's take on that.  Even Garner has difficulty with that approach on some players. It is what it is.

[gctiger 929]

10 hours ago, oracle79 said:

While I love your sentiment, I'm starting to think those guys are dinosaurs unless they are super charismatic and personable.  My fear is (most) of today's kids aren't able to handle that type of coaching any longer.  They want the "players" coach who can make them feel good about themselves and push their buttons in less obvious ways.  I'd be interested to hear @bigbird's take on that.  Even Garner has difficulty with that approach on some players. It is what it is.

It's my understanding that Saban and his entire staff are "in your grill" coaches.  Like them or not it's hard to argue with the results that they've obtained.  

[PigskinPat 2,578]

I think we need to take a serious look at this guy:

 

https://gopack.com/coaches.aspx?rc=277

[AU80cruiser 1,102]

1 hour ago, PigskinPat said:

I think we need to take a serious look at this guy:

 

https://gopack.com/coaches.aspx?rc=277

Yes. Young and NFL experience.

[AUpower 0]

What about BYU's OL coach?

[aubaseball 2,591]

Neil Callaway is available.   

[AUsince72 11,084]

14 hours ago, Beaker said:

Just watching the Cowboys game and I see they fired their veteran OL coach and promoted the assistant.  Now the assistant played in the NFL for  a decade and only coached one yr I think.  

Not saying this is the formula for success, but I wonder if we have any former OL NFL types that would make a "get in your grill," kinda coach that Auburn could use one day (soon).   

Kinda like how we all think K Greene should be on staff in some capacity or Takeo Spikes.  

Bad idea?

I like the idea of a get in your grill coach.  Don't even have to coach a position or be a "coach".  Just be one of those hundreds of "analysts" that Saban hires (who obviously coach).  Greene and Spikes' jobs can simply be "Get in your Grill Specialist".

 

[Tiger 8,818]

LMAO @ the idea of hiring Takeo Spikes just to yell at any and everyone in sight

 

I'm just imagining a Terry Tate type of exchange after a dumb mistake by one of our players

[The Freak 2,526]

8 minutes ago, Tiger said:

LMAO @ the idea of hiring Takeo Spikes just to yell at any and everyone in sight

 

I'm just imagining a Terry Tate type of exchange after a dumb mistake by one of our players

Imagine Takeo or Terry as the get back coach... that would be awesome.

[JBiGGiE 2,488]

Takeo Spikes for Hype & Intimidation Coordinator? Can we make this an on-field position?

[AUsince72 11,084]

Kevin Greene as new OLine Coach...

"NOW THIS IS HOW YOU BLOCK!!!!!"

 

[McLoofus 35,182]

11 minutes ago, AUsince72 said:

Kevin Greene as new OLine Coach...

"NOW THIS IS HOW YOU BLOCK!!!!!"

 

too 

much

awesome

[keesler 5,924]

14 hours ago, gctiger said:

It's my understanding that Saban and his entire staff are "in your grill" coaches.  Like them or not it's hard to argue with the results that they've obtained.  

They also scream, yell, curse like sailors, chew tobacco and they are evil and NS doesn't care anything about a single players - he'd even step over them if they're convulsing.  We all know how badly he treated Jalen Hurts, strung him along all year long to serve NS purpose and give him some insurance at the QB position. There was a thread on the Rivals board >>>> "Deceit and Betrayal" back in September where all the trash was laid out.

AU people appreciate and value CGM & Co's calm/laid back demeanor, no foul language, they show support and build solid relationships with the players - AU is Family not a win at all costs mentality.  

[gctiger 929]

53 minutes ago, keesler said:

They also scream, yell, curse like sailors, chew tobacco and they are evil and NS doesn't care anything about a single players - he'd even step over them if they're convulsing.  We all know how badly he treated Jalen Hurts, strung him along all year long to serve NS purpose and give him some insurance at the QB position. There was a thread on the Rivals board >>>> "Deceit and Betrayal" back in September where all the trash was laid out.

AU people appreciate and value CGM & Co's calm/laid back demeanor, no foul language, they show support and build solid relationships with the players - AU is Family not a win at all costs mentality.  

And to a large degree that’s why Saban has been extremely successful and Gus, not so much.  I can’t stand Saban but you’re delusional if you think that he doesn’t care about his players.  He maintains good relationships with many players once they leave the program and he’s put way more players in a position to be successful that Gus has.  

I read much of the Jalen Hurts thread but it appeared to be heavy on opinions and severely lacking facts.  Saban likely didn’t do or say anything that any other coach would have done or said.

While I also prefer a laidback coach, I’ve also come to realize that being too laidback can be a huge liability.  Has it ever occurred to you that just maybe Gus is too laid back with little or no sense of urgency, and that many of the players may be emulating these traits?  Many times players emulate the personalities of their coaching staffs. One of Coach Shug Jordan’s contains curse words and he’s still revered to the masses even today.  I don’t condone persistent verbal or physical abuse of the players, but IMO when their coddled they become soft, and we’ve had a number of those issues over the last few years.

As long as the masses continue to embrace mediocrity it will be the norm.  

 

[PowerOfDixieland 3,226]

2 hours ago, gctiger said:

Has it ever occurred to you that just maybe Gus is too laid back with little or no sense of urgency, and that many of the players may be emulating these traits?

I think you've been had, pretty sure @keesler was joshin' you. 

It's regrettable we can't have both.  I played for a baseball coach who called me every name in the book but also made it known (beyond the shadow of a doubt) that he had my best interest at heart.  I would have run through a wall for him...kinda' did on many occasions.

[gctiger 929]

3 hours ago, PowerOfDixieland said:

I think you've been had, pretty sure @keesler was joshin' you. 

It's regrettable we can't have both.  I played for a baseball coach who called me every name in the book but also made it known (beyond the shadow of a doubt) that he had my best interest at heart.  I would have run through a wall for him...kinda' did on many occasions.

If that's the case and he was being sarcastic then my apologies to Mr. Kessler.  😁

[Dual-Threat Rigby 8,659]

18 hours ago, keesler said:

They also scream, yell, curse like sailors, chew tobacco and they are evil and NS doesn't care anything about a single players - he'd even step over them if they're convulsing.  We all know how badly he treated Jalen Hurts, strung him along all year long to serve NS purpose and give him some insurance at the QB position. There was a thread on the Rivals board >>>> "Deceit and Betrayal" back in September where all the trash was laid out.

AU people appreciate and value CGM & Co's calm/laid back demeanor, no foul language, they show support and build solid relationships with the players - AU is Family not a win at all costs mentality.  

One of the problems I have with this divide (there’s a lot) is that one of these guys had their former players on twitter calling them incompetent and hinting for wanting to change. One of them is undefeated and might have the most indomitable season ever occurring. At some point, winning matters more to players than being a good guy, and I think Gus has set that line thrice over