Swamp Eagle 5,127 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 ...what is the over/under for players leaving the program in the off-season? I can't see, for instance, Devan Barrett hanging around much longer. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChltteTiger 649 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 B. Marcello had some article after the Moo St loss where he said there were some underclassmen talking about leaving early. Have not seen anything to this effect since then which makes me wonder if he made it up. Someone probably will leave early but don't they always? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarDamnEagleWDE 12,737 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 10+ IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR 2,425 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said: 10+ IMO. Speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubie17 65 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 What is the typical number that leave each year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenlee36 1,654 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, CR said: Speaks volumes. Yeah no doubt about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, aubie17 said: What is the typical number that leave each year? With the new transfer and redshirt rules...who knows I'm guessing more would leave if Gus was actually fired though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abw0004 10,102 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, aujeff11 said: With the new transfer and redshirt rules...who knows I'm guessing more would leave if Gus was actually fired though. We would lose commitments too. Some have already flat out said that is Gus leaves, they leave. The OP is a loaded question because naturally we are going to see more transfers due to the updated rules. It is happening everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp Eagle 5,127 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, ChltteTiger said: B. Marcello had some article after the Moo St loss where he said there were some underclassmen talking about leaving early. Have not seen anything to this effect since then which makes me wonder if he made it up. Someone probably will leave early but don't they always? I'm not talking about 'leaving early' as in the NFL...I mean players bailing and transferring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,062 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 45 minutes ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said: 10+ IMO. Over that since we average nearly 15 a year in the Gus era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meh130 1,043 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 42 minutes ago, Swamp Eagle said: I'm not talking about 'leaving early' as in the NFL...I mean players bailing and transferring. The only reason a player transfers is to improve their NFL draft potential. The primary way to improve NFL draft potential is to increase playing time. Transfers are more of an indication a team is relatively deep in a position, or of a personality conflict with the current coaching staff. Graduate transfers of non starters to another FBS school are a given. Kam Martin is a likely loss. Transfers of non-starters to FCS not requiring a loss of eligibility are a trade-off. I don't think those happen unless there is something more going on, or they really did not pan out as FBS level talent. Transfers to FBS requiring sitting out a year are likely for younger players who still have a redshirt to burn, or younger players who have used a redshirt but still have at least two years eligibility post transfer. With our losses on the interior defensive line and linebacker, I can't see any transfers until after spring camp. I could definitely see some losses on the O-Line. I don't see us losing any more WRs. I mentioned Kam Martin, I could see some more RB attrition. And lastly, there is no way we keep so many QBs, especially if we somehow end up with Kelly Bryant. But even without Bryant, losing Stidham and gaining Nix, it is hard to see us with more than three QBs. I do not think we are good at developing QB talent, so we can get someone like a Joey Gatewood, but not refine him. They either have to be a natural (which we clearly hope Bo Nix is), or a transfer developed by someone else. So I could see Willis or Gatewood (or perhaps both) transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp Eagle 5,127 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, meh130 said: The only reason a player transfers is to improve their NFL draft potential. The primary way to improve NFL draft potential is to increase playing time. All great points, but I don't think improving draft potential is the only reason. Sometimes you just want to get away from a dumpster fire...which I think is a huge possibility that may influence some players we may think are otherwise coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Besides the seniors leaving, I think a lot of the top juniors will leave Auburn early if it looks like Malzahn will returnd for 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer 47 74 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 46 minutes ago, Swamp Eagle said: All great points, but I don't think improving draft potential is the only reason. Sometimes you just want to get away from a dumpster fire...which I think is a huge possibility that may influence some players we may think are otherwise coming back. Agreed. He will be the coach , but I just don't think we finish as high as past years in recruiting this coming year. We are in such desperate need of so much and I for one just don't think Malzahn can turn AU into at least a consensus Top 15 team. I mean come on, the guy has had six years and the program really shows zero improvement. The longer he's here, the further AU falls behind the teams he has beaten and even further behind to the teams he is generally unable to beat. Think about it, beating GA and Bama last year really did nothing. They played for the Title and as usual, his teams were ill prepared come Sec champ game and the bowl game. We had 2 losses before this wins and then won two and turned around and crapped the bed the last two. Zero consudtency during his tenure with the exception that one year out of every four or so he gets a talented enough QB to run that ridiculous offense that is just painful to watch. So yes, we will lose out on high caliber recruits and the ones we do sign, will never be developed into the talent they truly possess! I am yet to see him develop a talented QB and take him to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, ellitor said: Over that since we average nearly 15 a year in the Gus era. For reference, what is "normal" attrition among P5 schools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,062 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Barnacle said: For reference, what is "normal" attrition among P5 schools? Don't know about P5s but @Mikey has the AU norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,574 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 If Gus returns........... well I will just stick to the only thing I do well in here and let the GIFs do the talking about how I would feel about it! lol @fredst Mr Fred feel free to piggyback off of this! haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auskip07 930 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I dont know if i was them i would look at tre williams. he was pretty good and would have possibly benifited or atleast gotten 1 more year of competetive football before leaving the program. If they choose to leave early for the nfl they need to realize that they my not play another game in the US in their life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerOfDixieland 3,225 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I heard they're all leaving.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUsince72 11,084 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, GwillMac6 said: If Gus returns........... well I will just stick to the only thing I do well in here and let the GIFs do the talking about how I would feel about it! lol @fredst Mr Fred feel free to piggyback off of this! haha. In case @fredst leaves you hanging... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,574 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, AUsince72 said: In case @fredst leaves you hanging... HAHAHAHA you sir post a mean gif yourself!!! Love it fam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Win4AU 4,050 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 If they go they go. Asa would be my first guess as a guy who bolts. Coaches may have screwed him over with his redshirt and he’s not even seen the field since Miss State that I’m aware of. I think I heard that Calvin Ashley isn’t even on campus anymore on that Jay Tate podcast. Everybody keeps talking about Joey leaving. If Bo is going to come in and start as a freshman then I’m not sure why any of the Qbs other than Willis would stay. If I’m Cord I might be checking in with Mullen again because UF needs a decent Qb too. At this point if they aren’t at Auburn for Auburn then they need to go somewhere they want to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredst 9,064 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I’m thinking more: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abw0004 10,102 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 44 minutes ago, auskip07 said: I dont know if i was them i would look at tre williams. he was pretty good and would have possibly benifited or atleast gotten 1 more year of competetive football before leaving the program. If they choose to leave early for the nfl they need to realize that they my not play another game in the US in their life. Tre Williams was here for a full 4 years. His issue was more health related. He is super talented, and was the brain of our defense last year. But he just got injured often. Great Auburn guy and happy to have him here this year helping us in recruiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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