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2 minutes ago, Potatooooooes!! said:

He wants to keep his job bro. Tons of people have acknowledged he’s a great man who clearly loves Auburn; he’s just a terrible coach. Seeing people complain about posters “Gus bashing” is getting as annoying as the “bashing” itself. But yes, props to Gus for being a great guy, even though that’s not the problem 

Wow, to be a spud, you seem quite rational. You have a new follower.

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3 minutes ago, ausburn said:

Auburn’s Football Coach Might Make One Of The Dumbest Financial Decisions Possible

David Hookstead | Reporter
 
 

Auburn football coach Gus Malzahn is apparently willing to accept a reduced buyout in order to remain the team’s head coach.

247 reported the following details on the situation Tuesday:

Though no agreement has been finalized and changes remain possible, Gus Malzahn is on the verge of accepting a reduced buyout and other limitations to remain for his seventh season as Auburn’s head football coach, sources told AuburnUndercover.

Malzahn’s buyout, sources said, would be reduced by an unspecified amount. Any coaching staff moves would have to be revenue neutral, effectively removing the possibility of paying buyouts for assistant coaches and assuring Chip Lindsey would remain as offensive coordinator unless he chooses to leave.

Malzahn’s deal is currently worth about $49 million and the buyout is a bit north of $32 million. That would mean Malzahn would be an idiot of epic proportions to accept any kind of reduction. Let me make this crystal clear as the resident financial expert at the company, making more money is better than making less money. (RELATED: The Final AP College Football Poll Of The Regular Season Is Here. Find Out Who Is Number One)

The Tigers have reportedly already made it clear they don’t plan to kick Malzahn to the curb. Honestly, he holds all the power here. Why the hell would he give up an inch?

Okay, so they don’t want to have him with a big buyout. That’s a real shame. Guess they shouldn’t have agreed to the contract then.

If I was Malzahn’s agent, my advice would be incredibly simple. Don’t accept one penny less, and force them to fire you if they don’t like it. You’re going to get paid either way. You might as well set yourself up for the most money possible.

Plus, then you can go on ESPN for a year or two, keep cashing checks and then get a different coaching job. I don’t understand how this is even a topic for discussion.

Again, Malzahn is an idiot if he takes a reduced buyout. He’s an absolute idiot.

I wouldn't do it but i HOPE Gus is dumb enough to do so! PLEASE!

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15 minutes ago, passthebiscuits said:

One more thing...the article supplied above says "WBRC FOX6 Sports has confirmed an initial report from Auburn Undercover." Not trying to get into semantics here, but to "confirm a report" doesn't necessarily mean that the report itself was factual, just that the report was reported, right?

see the problem im having is that not only does it not make sense, i can't find or talk to anyone here in auburn that has corroborated this story...

Bingo. The “confirmation” is referencing the original report, not anything new.

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2 minutes ago, passthebiscuits said:

It's not so crazy to offer (unless you thought Gus wouldn't accept it and would move on willingly), it just seems crazy to accept it? What's in this for Gus? He has no choice but to take it or move on? Why wouldn't you just say, no thanks a deals a deal and if you want me gone then pony up the $.

You should read the articles by JGT the past few days. It explains Gus so well. He is a different bird. He has never been fired & he takes the absolute most pride in that since so many coaches in his profession have been fired at some point. Gus is basically forcing AU to keep him til they are concretely ready to fire him.

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No matter if any changes happen with the contract and/or assistant coaches....i don't see Gus surviving next year anyway. I predict he probably gets canned after we lose at LSU yet again. 

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We look so dumb right now. PTB look stupid, and i mean prez, AD, and most importantly- boosters. How have these guys and gals gotten so successful in their businesses yet cant figure out how to fore a coach. Fire him and go get Bill Clark. Not bc i think BC is the savior but because its a good solid hire. That wont happen now

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9 minutes ago, steeleagle said:

What is wrong with renegotiating a deal that even all of us thought was wrong and totally unacceptable to give a coach who, as of the first year of the contract failed to be successful, and earn the increase?

There are other issues in Gus coaching the offense philosophy that needs to addressed and a new plan presented to his AD.

But gettting a better deal for the University seems fine to me...who cares if it seems crazy

Note: I'm only basing this on the media info I've seen.

Stupid for Gus: He takes less money if they fire him, yet they're hamstringing his ability to hire/fire coaches to help him right the ship.  Plus, he's GOT to know this hurts recruiting, MIGHTILY.

Stupid for Auburn: You're keeping Gus another year + *see above*.

Where's the positive here?  Saving a few million bucks that supposely some big time supporters are already more than willing to pay to get rid of Gus?

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This whole episode with all the different "reports" reminds me of something Pat Dye said when he was named the football coach at Auburn.  "Auburn people talk too much".  Nothing has changed in over 30 years.  This whole thing stinks.  None of this information should be public.

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Gus’ reaction after Auburn let’s him stay with the reduced buyout thinking he can win the natty next year 😂

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I'm gonna join the fun of making stuff up... maybe Gus also restructured the area of his contract that dictates how much he owes if he leaves. That way, he keeps his "I've never been fired", moves to another school, and saves everyone (including himself) a ton of $.

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7 minutes ago, ellitor said:

You should read the articles by JGT the past few days. It explains Gus so well. He is a different bird. He has never been fired & he takes the absolute most pride in that since so many coaches in his profession have been fired at some point. Gus is basically forcing AU to keep him til they are concretely ready to fire him.

Where's the concrete? I'll get started.

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4 minutes ago, tbone1430 said:

Gus’ reaction after Auburn let’s him stay with the reduced buyout thinking he can win the natty next year 😂

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I think Gus actually believes that though. lol. 

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2 minutes ago, passthebiscuits said:
10 minutes ago, ellitor said:

You should read the articles by JGT the past few days. It explains Gus so well. He is a different bird. He has never been fired & he takes the absolute most pride in that since so many coaches in his profession have been fired at some point. Gus is basically forcing AU to keep him til they are concretely ready to fire him.

Where's the concrete? I'll get started.

Wow, we're going a little overboard now aren't we?

 

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Last thing I'll say (today):

to be fair, the "report" could be 100% factual, and there is this renegotiated contract out there. Still doesn't make much sense and makes all sides look terrible. Also, i just can't find anyone to tell me that this actually happened/exists. 

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12 minutes ago, kwagoner said:

Bingo. The “confirmation” is referencing the original report, not anything new.

No. They are saying they were able to confirm for themselves what was reported earlier. They aren’t just reposting and referencing 24/7. 

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Just now, TitanTiger said:

No. They are saying they were able to confirm for themselves what was reported earlier. They aren’t just reposting and referencing 24/7. 

Perhaps through the same unnamed source? Ok ok. I give. I'll hang up and listen.

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1 minute ago, passthebiscuits said:

Haha yes--I only mean figuratively. Still Auburn through and through. war eagle!

Gotcha 😉

Outta likes so 👍

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5 minutes ago, passthebiscuits said:

Perhaps through the same unnamed source? Ok ok. I give. I'll hang up and listen.

I would imagine they'd ask that question first.  But it's possible.

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27 minutes ago, Barnacle said:

No it doesn't, and it undermines Gus' control over his program, it undermines his power to hire new assistants, it shows a lack of confidence and support by the university, and perhaps it shows some weakness in Gus. Moreover, I can't imagine that the net financial benefit from reducing his buyout outweighs the overall harm this does to the program. 

:bow:

The entire "story" being thrown out (if true) weakens, undermines, and emasculates Auburn University (Leath), Auburn Athletic Department (Greene), Auburn Board of Trustees (Raymond Harbert), Gus Malzhan, and anyone else affiliated with this entire fiasco.  Auburn appears weak, cheap, petty, and totally unorganized at any leadership position all the way from the President to the AD to the BOT to the damn head football coach.  

 

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This is classic corporate hard ball.  Whatever it is that convinced Gus to renegotiate his buyout (if it is a true story) the public will never know.  This is just step one, the next step is what the company really wants which is yet to be known by the public or Gus.  We can all speculate that it is to get rid of Gus, I just don’t know and no one is telling.  If this new buyout is signed without a SnapBack to the old buyout if Gus is let go, watch out Gus.

Right now Auburn is in Gus’ head and it’s reeling. Sexton, I’m sure, is advising Gus not to sign, but it’s Gus that drives that.  In the meantime, Sexton is looking for a landing spot as a precaution. You know behind the scene, not as a bargaining chip, but as a survival tool.  

Auburn is dealing from a position of strength, especially if it has a “Jimbo type” deal with a homerun hire waiting to be signed a day or two after a decision is made about Gus.

Corporations are run by the CEO types, but do not make a move with the big money unless approved by the CFO types.  Auburn in no different.  Just because “the money is there” doesn’t mean they want to spend it.  The optics may look bad, but the public will get over it.  Just look at what GM is doing over Christmas; and for those that think a new coach will thing twice about being Auburn’s coach, not going to happen.  There is plenty of coaches out there that will be confident enough to take the job.  If Louisville can find one, I’m sure Auburn can.

With regard to the corporate hard ball; JMO, but I’ve seen it happen many times.

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Has this been posted? Again, I feel its okay to be skeptical of all this at this time (free content): 

 

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I reached out to Auburn president Steven Leath's office

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  1. I reached out to Auburn president Steven Leath's office Wednesday morning seeking comment on our report. I also asked this question: Have things been settled with Gus Malzahn to assure he is the head coach of the football program?

    The response from the president's office: "There’s no information or comment at this time."

    UPDATE (11:46 a.m.): The president's office wanted to follow up on their comment:

    "Looking at your post, I should have been more clear that there has been no change from what the AD and president have previously said, which you have reported."

    Both athletics director Allen Green and president Steven Leath told Auburn Undercover in November that Gus Malzahn will be the coach in 2019.

https://auburn.247sports.com/Board/42/Contents/I-reached-out-to-Auburn-president-Steven-Leaths-office-125502499/

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34 minutes ago, steeleagle said:

I seem to agree on this scenario too, but I have a problem with #2.

Why would they admin put controls on his assistants? What was the problem before with him hiring and firing assistants.?

Because they were initially using that as a way to make Malzahn hate the deal and choose to leave.  He didn't.  So if #2 happens, I think they'll relent somewhat on the assistants thing.  

 

34 minutes ago, steeleagle said:

We know that part of the problem is still somewhere in the offensive scheming and play calling that frustrates us fans. How is keeping CL going to help repair the offensive issues? 

What is Gus' plan to fix the offensive side of the ball? I'm not talking personnel, but with the plan and playcalling. How can the Admin allow Gus to fix it HIS way, if that is part of the problem.

I agree, which is why I think the admin will relent on this to a degree.  I don't think Gus and CL work well together so there needs to be someone else in that slot.  So they'll probably work with Gus to let him get another OC and perhaps other coaches.  They'll probably retain veto power on some hires.  They'll probably come to some agreement on how much of a budget he has to do the hires, etc.  It will be less control than they originally put out there to try and scare him off, but they won't be handing him free rein to do whatever he wants either.

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2 minutes ago, keesler said:

:bow:

The entire "story" being thrown out (if true) weakens, undermines, and emasculates Auburn University (Leath), Auburn Athletic Department (Greene), Auburn Board of Trustees (Raymond Harbert), Gus Malzhan, and anyone else affiliated with this entire fiasco.  Auburn appears weak, cheap, petty, and totally unorganized at any leadership position all the way from the President to the AD to the BOT to the damn head football coach.  

 

If the story isn't true I think it's a ploy to undermine Leath. At least that's my conspiracy theory.

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